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[Mashed Potatoes]

1 minute ago, glen9mullan said:

Its more complex than this, club has to submit fan engagement plan forwards. Whilst if they choose to go bare minimum it needs to be a democratic voice.

Yes, I was aware of the requirement regarding future plans for fan engagement. The problem of course is that the language in the Act and the explanatory notes is so vague that it will be some time before anybody can be sure of what quite is going to be required of our or any other club. In the meantime provided meetings continue to go ahead I suspect that delays of a few weeks in the release of minutes will not be seen by the Regulator as an issue.

[glen9mullan]

Just now, Mashed Potatoes said:

Yes, I was aware of the requirement regarding future plans for fan engagement. The problem of course is that the language in the Act and the explanatory notes is so vague that it will be some time before anybody can be sure of what quite is going to be required of our or any other club. In the meantime provided meetings continue to go ahead I suspect that delays of a few weeks in the release of minutes will not be seen by the Regulator as an issue.

To be clear , the club to the best of my knowledge ain't holding the minutes up.

They were signed off quickly.

The accuracy of them is being discussed with the forum members.

Ive been told , they've never asked for edits and nothing in the meeting was explicitly stated to not be minuted.

 

[Upside Down]

4 hours ago, wilsdenrover said:

Do you think there’s a point where no communication would be the better option?

It has to be broken off by the club. 

The fans can't be responsible for that but when it happens, and I can see a day when it does, we'll have them on the ropes.

[Mashed Potatoes]

7 hours ago, Upside Down said:

It has to be broken off by the club. 

The fans can't be responsible for that but when it happens, and I can see a day when it does, we'll have them on the ropes.

I don't think that will happen. As stated above, the new law places a statutory obligation on clubs to hold regular meetings with a representative group of supporters. Any club which was in breach of that obligation could potentially have their licence to operate withdrawn by the Independent Regulator.

[Upside Down]

51 minutes ago, Mashed Potatoes said:

I don't think that will happen. As stated above, the new law places a statutory obligation on clubs to hold regular meetings with a representative group of supporters. Any club which was in breach of that obligation could potentially have their licence to operate withdrawn by the Independent Regulator.

It also requires that law to be enforced.

The people who run this place are reasonably dense and unbelievably petty. It is not beyond the realms of possibility that they would breach these rules as they have so many others in the past. 

I for one hope they do breach these terms and get made an example of and get their right to operate revoked.

[Mashed Potatoes]

1 hour ago, Upside Down said:

It also requires that law to be enforced.

The people who run this place are reasonably dense and unbelievably petty. It is not beyond the realms of possibility that they would breach these rules as they have so many others in the past. 

I for one hope they do breach these terms and get made an example of and get their right to operate revoked.

It isn't the people who operate the place who would have their licence to operate revoked but the club, which would not then be allowed to participate in English football in the top professional leagues thereby rendering the club insolvent - it's not going to happen just for the sake of the occasional difficult meeting with supporters.

[SIMON GARNERS 194]

14 hours ago, glen9mullan said:

The accuracy of them is being discussed with the forum members.

 

Here we go folks!

[47er]

14 hours ago, Mashed Potatoes said:

Yes, I was aware of the requirement regarding future plans for fan engagement. The problem of course is that the language in the Act and the explanatory notes is so vague that it will be some time before anybody can be sure of what quite is going to be required of our or any other club. In the meantime provided meetings continue to go ahead I suspect that delays of a few weeks in the release of minutes will not be seen by the Regulator as an issue.

Well if they have to meet regularly with a representative group of Supporters, the Fans Forum doesn't cut it because it isn't elected.

[Mashed Potatoes]

1 minute ago, 47er said:

Well if they have to meet regularly with a representative group of Supporters, the Fans Forum doesn't cut it because it isn't elected.

I think you're right - a question for the club is what are their plans for establishing the supporters group now that the legislation has been enacted.

[chaddyrovers]

28 minutes ago, Mashed Potatoes said:

I think you're right - a question for the club is what are their plans for establishing the supporters group now that the legislation has been enacted.

Dues the Legislation say any many supporter groups they have to meet each year? 

[Mattyblue]

The regime will do always do what is needed to keep their nose out of trouble and the media from sniffing around, they’ve done that since day dot… it’s why you’ll never see a Sheff Wed situation here and it’s why they’ll do whatever the bare minimum is to adhere to this legislation too

 

 

 

[Mashed Potatoes]

47 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

Dues the Legislation say any many supporter groups they have to meet each year? 

They meet just the one group of supporters, who have to be representative of the fanbase as a whole, and have to hold "regular" meetings. Separately the EFL currently require 2 meetings a year to be held with a fans forum although it remains to be seen if that requirement will continue now this legislation has been introduced.