JHRover Posted July 28 Posted July 28 I think a question should be raised at the next Forum meeting as to what the difference is between a Fans Forum meeting and a Supporters Consultation meeting. There is a difference because the former have taken place at Rovers going back decades, whereas the latter were introduced a few years ago following measures introduced by the EFL, took place for a couple of years with Tony Mowbray turning up with tales of life in 70s Teesside, and then as with Shareholder meetings were ditched during the Covid era under the guise of 'safety' and neither have been held or even mentioned since. Perhaps Pasha, Sufi or Talbot could explain why the club decided not to resume those meetings after Covid. That's because the shysters spotted an opportunity, as they often do, to save time and money and save themselves a job by cutting those meetings and lumping everything into one with the Fans Forum 8 Quote
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chaddyrovers Posted July 28 Posted July 28 isn't the fans forum made up of people representing different groups and asking questions to people from Rovers? Quote
Backroom Mike E Posted July 28 Backroom Posted July 28 8 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said: isn't the fans forum made up of people representing different groups and asking questions to people from Rovers? By accident rather than by design. It doesn’t replicate the open forum format, which is what happens with supporter consultation. 2 Quote
chaddyrovers Posted July 28 Posted July 28 (edited) 55 minutes ago, Mike E said: By accident rather than by design. It doesn’t replicate the open forum format, which is what happens with supporter consultation. Maybe so but different members represent different groups. We can still ask questions through those members and get answers we want. Might not be answer we like but its on the record Have you been an open supporters meeting at Rovers? Edited July 28 by chaddyrovers Quote
Backroom Mike E Posted July 28 Backroom Posted July 28 3 hours ago, chaddyrovers said: Maybe so but different members represent different groups. We can still ask questions through those members and get answers we want. Might not be answer we like but its on the record Have you been an open supporters meeting at Rovers? I have. I’ve also been to Fans Forum meetings. They are completely different formats. Quote
RevidgeBlue Posted July 29 Posted July 29 Too much emphasis on whether you're The Judean People's Front or The People's Front of Judea in the last few posts. What matters is what is said to the Club in the meetings and their response to it. If the minutes aren't being released in timely fashion and/or are not being recorded accurately to protect the Club, ( i.e. any dissent not recorded) then that isn't acceptable and just goes to show the box ticking nature of the exercise from the Club's perspective. 8 Quote
RoversClitheroe Posted July 29 Posted July 29 43 minutes ago, RevidgeBlue said: Too much emphasis on whether you're The Judean People's Front or The People's Front of Judea in the last few posts. What matters is what is said to the Club in the meetings and their response to it. If the minutes aren't being released in timely fashion and/or are not being recorded accurately to protect the Club, ( i.e. any dissent not recorded) then that isn't acceptable and just goes to show the box ticking nature of the exercise from the Club's perspective. Surely there's a duty of care to the supporters? Surely there's an SLA on these things. Quote
SIMON GARNERS 194 Posted July 29 Posted July 29 2 hours ago, RevidgeBlue said: If the minutes aren't being released in timely fashion and/or are not being recorded accurately to protect the Club, ( i.e. any dissent not recorded) then that isn't acceptable and just goes to show the box ticking nature of the exercise from the Club's perspective. I think all will come out in the open very soon.... Quote
DeeCee Posted July 29 Posted July 29 From what we've read from GM and others, there's nothing groundbreaking coming out of the minutes, when they are finally published. Quote
Crimpshrine Posted July 29 Posted July 29 5 hours ago, RoversClitheroe said: Surely there's a duty of care to the supporters? Surely there's an SLA on these things. I doubt there is an SLA. If there was they wouldn't stick to it anyway. There is a documented agreement between the club and WATR in the form of the MoU which states that there should be a minimum of 4 meetings a year. The club signed this agreement (on the pitch at Ewood) , tried to take all the credit for it, based their Fan Engagement Plan on it, won the EFL fan engagement award .because of it and yet there have been no meetings in the whole of 2025. Pasha has no interest in what fans have to say. He has hit his season ticket revenue targets and that is all he really cares about. 2 Quote
chaddyrovers Posted July 29 Posted July 29 20 hours ago, Mike E said: I have. I’ve also been to Fans Forum meetings. They are completely different formats. Ok thanks Mike 8 hours ago, RevidgeBlue said: Too much emphasis on whether you're The Judean People's Front or The People's Front of Judea in the last few posts. What matters is what is said to the Club in the meetings and their response to it. If the minutes aren't being released in timely fashion and/or are not being recorded accurately to protect the Club, ( i.e. any dissent not recorded) then that isn't acceptable and just goes to show the box ticking nature of the exercise from the Club's perspective. The delay is down to members of fans forum and nothing to do with the club. Its been over 2 weeks since the meeting but still no minutes Quote
glen9mullan Posted July 29 Posted July 29 1 hour ago, chaddyrovers said: Ok thanks Mike The delay is down to members of fans forum and nothing to do with the club. Its been over 2 weeks since the meeting but still no minutes Delay now on Club side, FF finished their updates some days ago. 4 Quote
wilsdenrover Posted July 29 Posted July 29 7 minutes ago, glen9mullan said: Delay now on Club side, FF finished their updates some days ago. So the additional delay is because the club needs to approve those updates? Quote
glen9mullan Posted July 29 Posted July 29 26 minutes ago, wilsdenrover said: So the additional delay is because the club needs to approve those updates? Correct 1 Quote
chaddyrovers Posted July 29 Posted July 29 38 minutes ago, glen9mullan said: Delay now on Club side, FF finished their updates some days ago. Thankyou for the update Glen 1 Quote
pick32 Posted July 29 Posted July 29 Has anyone seen the new TNT advert “only the street will remember” prem add featuring our very own MGP in the Blackburn kit 2 Quote
Emerald Isle Rover Posted July 31 Posted July 31 It may have been missed but il ask again doesn’t anybody on here know how long it takes for minutes to be agreed glen Mullen said he was at the meeting with pasha in attendance and questioned him on loads of things I’m wondering what these were and the responses etc Glenn has been a big critic of the regime so I doubt he sugar coated the questions Quote
MarkBRFC Posted July 31 Posted July 31 They used to be available after a week or so. Just recently it seems to be anywhere between 2-4 weeks for some reason. There will be nothing worth viewing in there anyway. Hopefully Glen will come on and give us a decent recap when they have been published. Quote
SIMON GARNERS 194 Posted July 31 Posted July 31 2 hours ago, MarkBRFC said: Hopefully Glen will come on and give us a decent recap when they have been published. I'm sure Glen will have more than a decent recap to give us when the time is right... Quote
roverblue Posted August 2 Posted August 2 The time is right the day after the meeting rather than a month down the line… 2 Quote
rigger Posted August 2 Posted August 2 45 minutes ago, roverblue said: The time is right the day after the meeting rather than a month down the line… Perhaps waiting for the minutes is part of Gestedes exciting summer ? 1 Quote
chaddyrovers Posted August 2 Posted August 2 Never seen so much interest in the minutes on here 👏 2 Quote
Mattyblue Posted August 2 Posted August 2 I have… every couple of months is the same, or more every four/five months these days when the regime can be arsed actually holding a meeting. 3 Quote
Upside Down Posted August 2 Posted August 2 53 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said: Never seen so much interest in the minutes on here 👏 Bollocks, it's like this after every meeting. 2 Quote
JHRover Posted August 2 Posted August 2 1 hour ago, chaddyrovers said: Never seen so much interest in the minutes on here 👏 It's because despite all the claims, boasts and lies from the club about the importance of communication with fans in practice unless you know someone behind the scenes the only chance the general fanbase have to discover what is going on is by waiting for occasional forum meetings and then waiting for the minutes released weeks later. They've done their best to remove all other forms of communication including consultation and shareholder meetings and I'm sure they'd get rid of forum meetings too if they could. Because what they claim and what they actually do are the opposite. It sounds good to say you value communication. In practice they do the absolute minimum and have the media wrapped around their fingers too. 3 Quote
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