2025 Summer Transfer Thread. 😂

[roversfan99]

4 hours ago, chaddyrovers said:

Stress? 

Why is Gestede an idiot in your opinion?

Any positive from you about Toth, Cantwell, Batth, Ohashi?.

Do you think Pears, JRC and Buckley will look to move on this summer in order of first team football? 

Do we know what is affordable and not as fans? 

One of the 3 stooges. Some of the stuff he has said in his recent media round up has been very strange. He has overseen one window post Park and it was a disaster. As you agree, he shouldnt be in the job.

The window seems a much more optimistic one to you. You havent really factored in the contract situation as a problem (Dolan is going and the others we either sell or lose in a year for free) and you have just assumed for some reason that everyone is suddenly aligned and on the same budget, and youve based your expected budget on the higher end of what liar Suhail said we spent in the season just gone.

On the players you mention. Cantwell hasnt been a success, he has talent but overall has had a really disappointing season. He may kick on next season but cant be seen as a success yet. Youve already concluded based on very little that Kargbo is a success (was dreadful yesterday but either way hasnt done enough so far to be seen as one) so maybe we have different standards.

Toth again id say its too early. I think in the last 5 games hes only conceded 3 but the main reason hasnt been his brilliant keeping, similar to when Pears kept 5 clean sheets in a row it was a spell where in the main the good defending of the team meant that the keeper had little to do. Ohashi has been a useful signing and certainly value for the small amount of money paid but I think he would be better competing with someone as first choice, Batth has been very good as a short term signing.

 

[Forever Blue]

Did Gestede really say that money generated from player sales will not impact the budget? 

[KentExile]

18 minutes ago, Forever Blue said:

Did Gestede really say that money generated from player sales will not impact the budget? 

yes, I think it was in the podcast with Sam Allardyce.

 

Edited Sunday at 12:47 by KentExile

[joey_big_nose]

Only player we have signed in Jan who looks like they have upside is Kargbo. He was awful against Sheff Utd but see enough in other games to suggest he can kick on.

Ohashi is decent and looks solid, worried about Gueye who on form is excellent but has looked completely out of it since Ismael pitched up. Toth has hugely improved after a shaky start. After that its stop gap players.

We are really relying on having the best window in years just to stand still with the players leaving / getting on which is very concerning.

[Hasta]

39 minutes ago, joey_big_nose said:

Only player we have signed in Jan who looks like they have upside is Kargbo. He was awful against Sheff Utd but see enough in other games to suggest he can kick on.

Ohashi is decent and looks solid, worried about Gueye who on form is excellent but has looked completely out of it since Ismael pitched up. Toth has hugely improved after a shaky start. After that its stop gap players.

We are really relying on having the best window in years just to stand still with the players leaving / getting on which is very concerning.

Kargbo might come on next season, but hasn’t contributed much this season and wasn’t what we needed in January.
 

Rubeiro was the only bright spark in that window.

[sammie]

6 hours ago, KentExile said:

Bundu is more a "utility forward" than a winger for me, and hasn't played wide that often since the new manager came in in January, his technique is a bit hit and miss but he is fast, which would be useful to have to change things up, 

apologies 

[KentExile]

17 minutes ago, sammie said:

apologies 

No apologies necessary 🙂 

[simongarnerisgod]

3 hours ago, Hasta said:

Kargbo might come on next season, but hasn’t contributed much this season and wasn’t what we needed in January.
 

Rubeiro was the only bright spark in that window.

kargbo is all pace and has no defensive nous at all,you can`t just whack the ball past the full back and run for it,at this level that certainly won`t work,going to take a lot of coaching to make him effective imo

[chaddyrovers]

7 hours ago, roversfan99 said:

One of the 3 stooges. Some of the stuff he has said in his recent media round up has been very strange. He has overseen one window post Park and it was a disaster. As you agree, he shouldnt be in the job.

Like I said to Matty, I would have prefer someone who has the experience I think we need someone with more experience of small budgets and bringing in quality players plus experience of signings players from overseas

7 hours ago, roversfan99 said:

The window seems a much more optimistic one to you. You havent really factored in the contract situation as a problem (Dolan is going and the others we either sell or lose in a year for free) and you have just assumed for some reason that everyone is suddenly aligned and on the same budget, and youve based your expected budget on the higher end of what liar Suhail said we spent in the season just gone.

You says I haven't factored in the contract situation of Travis, Brittain, Tronstad, Batth, Hyam. That comment is a piss take to be honest as it would be number 1 priority right now to sign them all up who wanted to stay but any who don't want to, I would sell. 

Ismael and Gestede have both made the same points about being align and working together, if you DONT want to believe it, fine but please don't keep going on about it to me daily/weekly cos I ain't interested

I have based what I think the budget is based on what I believe we spent(without Pasha comment as I told you SEVERAL TIMES NOW) and Gestede's comments to Elliott Jackson being the same

7 hours ago, roversfan99 said:

On the players you mention. Cantwell hasnt been a success, he has talent but overall has had a really disappointing season. He may kick on next season but cant be seen as a success yet.

Yes Cantwell has been disappointed this season overall but the last few games he was getting better 

7 hours ago, roversfan99 said:

Youve already concluded based on very little that Kargbo is a success (was dreadful yesterday but either way hasnt done enough so far to be seen as one) so maybe we have different standards.

No surprised to me you have jumped on this one given your opinion before we signed and I was expected you to do so post game, 

I said on Karbgo that I've pleased with what I have seen so far and I wanted to see more. His pass to Dolan for him to score in the Plymouth Game shown quality

7 hours ago, roversfan99 said:

Toth again id say its too early. I think in the last 5 games hes only conceded 3 but the main reason hasnt been his brilliant keeping, similar to when Pears kept 5 clean sheets in a row it was a spell where in the main the good defending of the team meant that the keeper had little to do.

On Toth, in his previous games before he started at Luton away he was poor but since coming he was good, yes a few shaky moments at Luton but overall good and yesterday that save from deflected shot was very good plus he was good at coming off his line and catching the ball. For me, the shirt is his for next season and I would sell Pears and bring in another keeper to be number 2 for next season

7 hours ago, roversfan99 said:

Ohashi has been a useful signing and certainly value for the small amount of money paid but I think he would be better competing with someone as first choice, Batth has been very good as a short term signing.

 

on Ohashi, you disagree with my view point as you have said time after time, so what's the point keep going on and on about repeatably again!!! 

[booth]

8 hours ago, Forever Blue said:

Did Gestede really say that money generated from player sales will not impact the budget? 

 

8 hours ago, KentExile said:

yes, I think it was in the podcast with Sam Allardyce.

 

At 27 minutes in they discuss the budget.

[Ferrit]

Another disaster class transfer window awaits from the clown Rudy. So far out of his depth its not even funny.

That January window was a doozy, real big brain stuff.

As for communicating with the fans, I’d prefer if he didn’t communicate at all by way of walking. I doubt any other club will be chomping at the bit to take him on, in any capacity.

Edited yesterday at 06:51 by Ferrit

[roversfan99]

Now we are moving towards that spell where people share any sort of rumour regardless of credibility.

This is one source we can discount. A player out for most of next season injured.

[Eddie]

23 hours ago, Forever Blue said:

Did Gestede really say that money generated from player sales will not impact the budget? 

Yes. Said it to us. 

[chaddyrovers]

1 hour ago, roversfan99 said:

Now we are moving towards that spell where people share any sort of rumour regardless of credibility.

This is one source we can discount. A player out for most of next season injured.

so give it more exposure instead of just ignoring it? 

[FE123]

The clubs transfer strategy won’t differ from the last few years:

• Listen to and negotiate any offers for any first team players
• Offer 1 or 2 experienced players 12 month deals (Batth/Weimann/ Fleck/ McFadzean etc)
• Spend small fees over a number of instalments for players on low wages from abroad with the potential to be sold on.

Bundu won’t happen. He’ll find a club in the champ willing to pay him more than us, and the club won’t give him 3 years at the age of 28.

On the balance, Rudy will say the recruitment of Yuki/Gueye/ Toth/Batth/ Kargbo/ Cantwell/ Weimann have been successful. We have gone from relegation fodder to on the brink of the play offs.

Yuki/ Cantwell/ Gueye/ Toth and Kargbo won’t have reduced in value and if one has a good year next season, they will be flogged on. I even think they may sell Gueye this time round for a couple of million.

[DutchRover]

I assume we will renew Hedges, Forshaw and Batth as Ismael wants; should be easy enough deals even for us, not that I particularly think we should renew Hedges or Forshaw, but it is what it is.

Pears, JRC, Buckley and maybe Gueye will be the guys we try move on from. I could also see us selling Hyam instead of offering him a new deal/losing him next summer. Not sure we'd get much more than 5 million for the lot which even if we would reinvest doesn't add much to the budget. 

Wharton moving to a bigger club seems our best bet for a financial boost this summer but again, will just give Venkys an excuse to send less money.

[KentExile]

33 minutes ago, DutchRover said:

Pears, JRC, Buckley and maybe Gueye will be the guys we try move on from. I could also see us selling Hyam instead of offering him a new deal/losing him next summer. Not sure we'd get much more than 5 million for the lot which even if we would reinvest doesn't add much to the budget. 

Wharton moving to a bigger club seems our best bet for a financial boost this summer but again, will just give Venkys an excuse to send less money.

I wouldn't worry about that, money brought in does not alter the budget according to Gestede

[Leonard Venkhater]

7 hours ago, Eddie said:

Yes. Said it to us. 

I wonder whether he will be denying his comments like the "oh-poor-me"- gooner?

[Forever Blue]

I watched a bit of that interview posted above. Gestede’s comments about not investing in Jan cos it wasn’t the plan to get promoted are utter lunacy. 
 

He comes across as a really dumb bloke trying to be a smart arse. 

[Tomphil2]

Well it's the 3rd time its happened so it's never been part of any plan all they've ever done i buff the squad out they've never gone for instant impact.

I do suspect someone somewhere thought Dennis might deliver that this time to be fair but whoever it was needs keeping away from bringing people in in the future.

Amazing how they got that over the line despite the cost but somehow totally screwed up TWO previous big signings....

[WacoRover]

The club as it stands is not nearly as marketable as it could be, if the owners tried to make it more attractive. They must look at the current roster, & the fact we were 2 points off playoffs, & try to invest some money to get us to the 3-6 range. It would bolster their investment in the club, and if somehow get us to PL, they could make more of their investment back- if they choose to sell. 

[KentExile]

11 hours ago, Forever Blue said:

I watched a bit of that interview posted above. Gestede’s comments about not investing in Jan cos it wasn’t the plan to get promoted are utter lunacy. 
 

He comes across as a really dumb bloke trying to be a smart arse. 

Absolutely.  Those who cannot adapt, are doomed to failure

Even if we were to be extremely charitable to those who run the club and accept that spending money in January and/or promotion/play offs this season was not the plan.  It made absolutely no sense to not take advantage of the position that we found ourselves in come the January window.

I do not think any of us were expecting us to go for broke and spend £30M, but surely it made sense to invest in a few players who could have strengthened the team at the time, as well as offering good market value contracts to t Travis, Brittain & Tronstad etc.

If in the end, had that not been enough, then those players could have been sold on with serval years left on their contracts (& therefore a much higher resale value tan we see now), with no impact on long term finances

Insteads we ended up with (in the main), money flushed away on short term deals for players who were unlikely to either make a real difference (Forshaw, Sanderson, Woodrow), or be ready to help in a play off push (Dennis).

Edited 6 hours ago by KentExile

[Al]

23 hours ago, roversfan99 said:

Now we are moving towards that spell where people share any sort of rumour regardless of credibility.

This is one source we can discount. A player out for most of next season injured.

Of course they are. Venkys will not allow us to outbid them. Why don't they just give the club away and piss off.

[chaddyrovers]

 

 

 

[Wing Wizard Windy Miller]

Forshaw, Hedges, Weiman need to go.