2025 Summer Transfer Thread. 😂

[KentExile]

23 minutes ago, Bbrovers2288 said:

Josh windass on a free? Always thought him to be a threat, getting on but these post 30 players can be very handy in the champ. I’d have him 

Apparently his contract has a 1 year option clause, so he wont be on a free this summer

[bazza]

3 hours ago, Tom said:

My view on a few things:

 

I expect a mass exodus at youth levels as well 

Pity it wasn't a mass exodus at ownership level.

[bazza]

I want JRC to stay. I think he's a good player. He's been played out of position far too many times. He is a right sided attacking midfielder. Rather have him as back up to Tronstad and Travis than Forshaw.

[KentExile]

8 minutes ago, bazza said:

I want JRC to stay. I think he's a good player. He's been played out of position far too many times. He is a right sided attacking midfielder. Rather have him as back up to Tronstad and Travis than Forshaw.

I don't think that he is.  at youth level he played mainly as either a left sided attacking midfielder, or as a right wing back.  He was also poor as a right sided attacking midfielder at the start of this season.

Personally see him as probably being best suited to playing as a  box to box midfielder in a 4-3-3

Definitely prefer him in the squad to Forshaw

Edited 18 hours ago by KentExile

[bluebruce]

17 minutes ago, KentExile said:

I don't think that he is.  at youth level he played mainly as either a left sided attacking midfielder, or as a right wing back.  He was also poor as a right sided attacking midfielder at the start of this season.

Personally see him as probably being best suited to playing as a  box to box midfielder in a 4-3-3

Definitely prefer him in the squad to Forshaw

I don't know what he is, and I'm not sure JRC knows either. He has had spells being good in a few positions, and spells being dogshit in the same positions.

The main issue is his fitness, which will never hold up for more than half a season at best, and even when it is 'holding up' for that long he seems to be playing through a niggle and never looks fully fit.

It's time to part ways tbh.

[BigHoz]

27 minutes ago, bazza said:

I want JRC to stay. I think he's a good player. He's been played out of position far too many times. He is a right sided attacking midfielder. Rather have him as back up to Tronstad and Travis than Forshaw.

I’d be a very happy LB if JRC was on the right attacking lining up against me. 

[Forever Blue]

Hedge and Forshaw are decent Championship squad players. Ismael will know his budget and will know how little there is to work with. Of course he wants them to stay, the alternatives could be much worse. 

[roversfan99]

They aren't "decent" squad players. They are examples of a club who have lowered their standards, who don't put any money in to the squad. 

Hedges is an attacking player who plays almost every game and has mustered 1 goal and 2 assists. He offers nothing going forward, he doesn't score, he isn't creative, he isn't quick, he isn't tricky, he doesn't beat players.

Forshaw is a veteran who Plymouth happily gave away. When he started games or played a big chunk of games, think Oxford away, Bristol City away, Stoke away, Swansea away, we really struggled. Not obviously all down to him, but he isn't good enough aside from coming on occasionally for a few minutes to help see out a game. Which is all well and good, but he will need to start games when starters are unavailable.

It's this idea of, oh he will do as a squad player. Then when we get a few injuries and have to play these players from the start regularly, the performance levels dip and the results suffer.

[Forever Blue]

1 hour ago, roversfan99 said:

They aren't "decent" squad players. They are examples of a club who have lowered their standards, who don't put any money in to the squad. 

Hedges is an attacking player who plays almost every game and has mustered 1 goal and 2 assists. He offers nothing going forward, he doesn't score, he isn't creative, he isn't quick, he isn't tricky, he doesn't beat players.

Forshaw is a veteran who Plymouth happily gave away. When he started games or played a big chunk of games, think Oxford away, Bristol City away, Stoke away, Swansea away, we really struggled. Not obviously all down to him, but he isn't good enough aside from coming on occasionally for a few minutes to help see out a game. Which is all well and good, but he will need to start games when starters are unavailable.

It's this idea of, oh he will do as a squad player. Then when we get a few injuries and have to play these players from the start regularly, the performance levels dip and the results suffer.

I’d suggest reading my post again for the context. It wasn’t a difficult post to understand.

[chaddyrovers]

Back to Standards bollocks. 

Hedges is a good squad player who brings experience but also can different positions. RF99 didn't mention the great weight pass by Hedges for Ohashi's goal at Luton or his run at Sheffield United that help created the goal there. Plus when fit, JDT, Eustace and Ismael have mostly picked him. Wonder why that is? 

Why does it actually matter that Plymouth release him to come Here, why make such a big deal of it? Was it his fault for all those defeats or you dong mention his goal that help us secure a win against Plymouth, no mention of that either just all the negative points? 

 

Edited 16 hours ago by chaddyrovers

[roversfan99]

If you are repeatedly highlighting one of his two assists from the entire season, similar to when it was repeated mentions of his solitary goal v Watford the season before. It suggests there isnt too much else to go at.

Experienced? Yes. So is David Dunn, shall we get him back? Can play different positions? Not really, left and right wing, equally ineffective on either side. Good enough? No.

It is about standards. We take the easy option of signing cheap players to pad the squad out, and when they play the decline in quality compared to the starters helps to cause us to lose momentum and go on terrible runs.

Low standards leads to the he will do mentality, he did one or two good things over the course of a season. Rinse and repeat.

Im sick of this club just making do. Im not expecting Rodri and Vinicius Junior to be squad members, im not even expecting them to be as good as Travis/Tronstad necessarily. But players who will genuinely challenge and at least keep them on their toes, players who would be capable of filling in if the starters are injured or even desperately in need of a break and wouldnt massively weaken the team in doing so.

Lewis Baker coming in did that to an extent, if he started it wasnt quite Travis or Tronstad but it was good competition. Forshaw was a massive downgrade.

[chaddyrovers]

1 hour ago, roversfan99 said:

If you are repeatedly highlighting one of his two assists from the entire season, similar to when it was repeated mentions of his solitary goal v Watford the season before. It suggests there isnt too much else to go at.

Experienced? Yes. So is David Dunn, shall we get him back? Can play different positions? Not really, left and right wing, equally ineffective on either side. Good enough? No.

It is about standards. We take the easy option of signing cheap players to pad the squad out, and when they play the decline in quality compared to the starters helps to cause us to lose momentum and go on terrible runs.

Low standards leads to the he will do mentality, he did one or two good things over the course of a season. Rinse and repeat.

Im sick of this club just making do. Im not expecting Rodri and Vinicius Junior to be squad members, im not even expecting them to be as good as Travis/Tronstad necessarily. But players who will genuinely challenge and at least keep them on their toes, players who would be capable of filling in if the starters are injured or even desperately in need of a break and wouldnt massively weaken the team in doing so.

Lewis Baker coming in did that to an extent, if he started it wasnt quite Travis or Tronstad but it was good competition. Forshaw was a massive downgrade.

Highlighting the quality of him and also why the last 3 head coaches have picked him regularly. Wonder why? Cos they valued his quality and has the attitude they like. 

Was has Ismael picked Forshaw over Buckley as bench centre midfielder ? Wonder why? 

[Mike E]

6 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

Highlighting the quality of him and also why the last 3 head coaches have picked him regularly. Wonder why? Cos they valued his quality and has the attitude they like. 

Was has Ismael picked Forshaw over Buckley as bench centre midfielder ? Wonder why? 

So managers are always right and fans opinions are always irrelevant?

6 different managers persistently picked Jason Lowe over a 4 year spell spanning Premier League and Championship.

So obviously, Lowe was one of the best players at the club in that time, right?

Edited 13 hours ago by Mike E

[davulsukur]

10 hours ago, bazza said:

I want JRC to stay. I think he's a good player. He's been played out of position far too many times. He is a right sided attacking midfielder. Rather have him as back up to Tronstad and Travis than Forshaw.

I'll be very surprised if he's a Rovers player come the start of the season.

Didn't make the squad for the last 2 games and was an unused substitute 3 times before that.

Gestede has already stated that RB & CM are positions we'll be looking at, so he's not being considered for those positions. He's too slow for any of the attacking positions.

[RoversClitheroe]

9 hours ago, chaddyrovers said:

Back to Standards bollocks. 

Hedges is a good squad player who brings experience but also can different positions. RF99 didn't mention the great weight pass by Hedges for Ohashi's goal at Luton or his run at Sheffield United that help created the goal there. Plus when fit, JDT, Eustace and Ismael have mostly picked him. Wonder why that is? 

Why does it actually matter that Plymouth release him to come Here, why make such a big deal of it? Was it his fault for all those defeats or you dong mention his goal that help us secure a win against Plymouth, no mention of that either just all the negative points? 

 

The one pass he did where he got 1 of his 2 assists for the season?

The guy should be nowhere near the squad.

[roversfan99]

6 hours ago, Mike E said:

So managers are always right and fans opinions are always irrelevant?

6 different managers persistently picked Jason Lowe over a 4 year spell spanning Premier League and Championship.

So obviously, Lowe was one of the best players at the club in that time, right?

Exactly.

Plus its not as if they have had many other options and certainly no quality. Weve been lacking a quality wide man for a number of years aside from Brereton when we had him, and being on the bench over Buckley who is also not good enough is hardly a badge of honour.

[chaddyrovers]

7 hours ago, Mike E said:

So managers are always right and fans opinions are always irrelevant?

6 different managers persistently picked Jason Lowe over a 4 year spell spanning Premier League and Championship.

So obviously, Lowe was one of the best players at the club in that time, right?

Did I say that? But maybe on some things these paid professional head coaches actually can see that we just watching the game..

Never said Hedges was one of the best players at the club did I!! I said he is good squad player and the 3 head coaches have picked him most of the time he been fit 

36 minutes ago, roversfan99 said:

Exactly.

Plus its not as if they have had many other options and certainly no quality. Weve been lacking a quality wide man for a number of years aside from Brereton when we had him, and being on the bench over Buckley who is also not good enough is hardly a badge of honour.

Just excuses to back Your opinion. The last 3 head coaches mostly picked him. Wonder why? They valued him a player and what he brings to the team. 

 

[roversfan99]

2 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

Did I say that? But maybe on some things these paid professional head coaches actually can see that we just watching the game..

Never said Hedges was one of the best players at the club did I!! I said he is good squad player and the 3 head coaches have picked him most of the time he been fit 

Just excuses to back Your opinion. The last 3 head coaches mostly picked him. Wonder why? They valued him a player and what he brings to the team. 

 

Ive just said why I think why.

Lack of alternatives, lack of money, lack of standards. And misjudgements.

Jason Lowe was regularly picked. Wonder why?

[chaddyrovers]

 

 

 

[Tugayisgod]

Really disappointed to hear this, really thought he was going to establish himself in the team but the injuries have been so cruel to him

Good luck Zac

https://www.lancashiretelegraph.co.uk/sport/25146680.zak-gilsenan-depart-blackburn-rovers-end-deal/

[Lancaster Rover]

12 hours ago, bluebruce said:

I don't know what he is, and I'm not sure JRC knows either. He has had spells being good in a few positions, and spells being dogshit in the same positions.

The main issue is his fitness, which will never hold up for more than half a season at best, and even when it is 'holding up' for that long he seems to be playing through a niggle and never looks fully fit.

It's time to part ways tbh.

His purple patches have come when our formation and tactics have allowed him time and space, where he's the spare man in midfield. Where he's been deployed against a man to man system or one that matches us up zonally he's been awful, he has no wing mirrors when he's in midfield and when played as a traditional right back he gets rinsed, which is saying something given the general approach this year has been to allow wingers wide, give space and allowed to cross as we're confident the CB's can deal with it.

Edited 5 hours ago by Lancaster Rover

[Lancaster Rover]

20 minutes ago, Tugayisgod said:

Really disappointed to hear this, really thought he was going to establish himself in the team but the injuries have been so cruel to him

Good luck Zac

https://www.lancashiretelegraph.co.uk/sport/25146680.zak-gilsenan-depart-blackburn-rovers-end-deal/

ditto, real shame for the lad. The few times I saw him he had that lovely combo of being a direct runner in that languid left footed style, bit of a throwback to some extent

[Tom]

Shame for Gilsenan but we can’t just indefinitely keep paying him in the hope he’ll stay fit when evidence suggests that isn’t likely to happen 

[MarkBRFC]

He's 22 now Gilsenan, needs to go and carve out a career for himself in league 1/2.

He's still young enough to bounce back to this level by his mid 20's if he's good enough and stays fit.

[arbitro]

41 minutes ago, Tugayisgod said:

Really disappointed to hear this, really thought he was going to establish himself in the team but the injuries have been so cruel to him

Good luck Zac

https://www.lancashiretelegraph.co.uk/sport/25146680.zak-gilsenan-depart-blackburn-rovers-end-deal/

Football is a cutthroat world and whilst Gilsenan is undoubtedly talented his injuries have really impeded him and will have played a part in this decision. Being injury prone could be a factor in his next move and future and I wish him well.