chaddyrovers Posted 13 hours ago Posted 13 hours ago 2 hours ago, M_B said: Similar to last pre season, let's see what happens instead of tuning into another episode of Jackanory. 100% agree. He didn't rate Eustace 12 months and now he is messiah to him 43 minutes ago, MarkBRFC said: All by design. There is no interest in negotiating new deals here. A first team player hasn't signed a new contact here since December 2023. Can probably more than halve the wages of them 4 by replacing them with a couple of low cost foreign signings. Bruno Riberio did but you point is correct. Gestede should have been getting our key players tied down during the season. 1 1 Quote
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roversfan99 Posted 13 hours ago Posted 13 hours ago 2 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said: 100% agree. He didn't rate Eustace 12 months and now he is messiah to him Bruno Riberio did but you point is correct. Gestede should have been getting our key players tied down during the season. Bruno Ribeiro was a long time ago. Do you expect 90% in by the start of pre season? Quote
dallydally Posted 13 hours ago Posted 13 hours ago 1 minute ago, roversfan99 said: Bruno Ribeiro was a long time ago. Do you expect 90% in by the start of pre season? Â 1 minute ago, roversfan99 said: Bruno Ribeiro was a long time ago. Do you expect 90% in by the start of pre season? No chance!! Quote
JHRover Posted 13 hours ago Posted 13 hours ago 8 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said: 100% agree. He didn't rate Eustace 12 months and now he is messiah to him Bruno Riberio did but you point is correct. Gestede should have been getting our key players tied down during the season. Ribeiro cannot be treated as a contract extension in the normal sense of the word. He came into the club in January, bizarrely on a 6 months permanent deal, and then given his good contributions to the team deservedly had that extended. It was a very strange and almost unheard of situation to join a club on a permanent 6 month contract. I've never seen such a thing before. Most normal organisations would have simply given him a multi-year deal at the point of joining, so we can't really then claim credit for 'extending' it when through our own strange approach an extension became necessary after only a few months of him being here. Therefore no senior player has had a contract extension in 18 months. Invoking a 12 month option in the club's favour is not a contract extension, it is triggering a clause in an existing deal. 3 Quote
Lancaster Rover Posted 13 hours ago Posted 13 hours ago I'm afraid it would be a no brainer if I were in Travis position. A young ambitious (judging by his wife's social media) newly married couple is a perfect match for a team with successive promotions, widespread positive worldwide media coverage, committed owners who are progressive and seemingly with ever improving infrastructure. If you look at it from a business/career point of view there is only 1 winner IMO, we're a club on very much a downward trajectory on all fronts, Wrexham are the opposite, as much as it pains me to admit that the famous Blackburn Rovers are a worse option than Wrexham. 7 Quote
JHRover Posted 13 hours ago Posted 13 hours ago 1 minute ago, Lancaster Rover said: I'm afraid it would be a no brainer if I were in Travis position. A young ambitious (judging by his wife's social media) newly married couple is a perfect match for a team with successive promotions, widespread positive worldwide media coverage, committed owners who are progressive and seemingly with ever improving infrastructure. If you look at it from a business/career point of view there is only 1 winner IMO, we're a club on very much a downward trajectory on all fronts, Wrexham are the opposite, as much as it pains me to admit that the famous Blackburn Rovers are a worse option than Wrexham. Agreed, though Rovers' approach has basically taken any decision out of Travis' hands anyway. All of what you say is probably true, but assumes there is a decision to be made between Rovers and Wrexham as both want him. Both don't want him - Rovers have made it quite clear by their conduct that they have no interest in keeping Travis, Tronstad, Brittain etc. So there's not really a choice to be made. If Rovers don't want him then he'll have to go elsewhere. Quote
chaddyrovers Posted 13 hours ago Posted 13 hours ago 20 minutes ago, roversfan99 said: Bruno Ribeiro was a long time ago. Yuri Ribeiro I meant 20 minutes ago, roversfan99 said: Do you expect 90% in by the start of pre season? Have I ever said that? Didn't Ismael say by the Spanish pre season camp late July? I think we have a couple in by them but not all. Maybe 3 out of the 6 or 7 signings Ismael wanted 1 Quote
MarkBRFC Posted 13 hours ago Posted 13 hours ago (edited) 2 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said: Yuri Ribeiro I meant Have I ever said that? Didn't Ismael say by the Spanish pre season camp late July? I think we have a couple in by them but not all. Maybe 3 out of the 6 or 7 signings Ismael wanted No, he said he wanted 90% of business in by the time pre season training starts. Which is in around 2-3 weeks away. Edited 13 hours ago by MarkBRFC 3 Quote
Tomphil2 Posted 13 hours ago Posted 13 hours ago (edited) 17 minutes ago, Lancaster Rover said: I'm afraid it would be a no brainer if I were in Travis position. A young ambitious (judging by his wife's social media) newly married couple is a perfect match for a team with successive promotions, widespread positive worldwide media coverage, committed owners who are progressive and seemingly with ever improving infrastructure. If you look at it from a business/career point of view there is only 1 winner IMO, we're a club on very much a downward trajectory on all fronts, Wrexham are the opposite, as much as it pains me to admit that the famous Blackburn Rovers are a worse option than Wrexham. Yep for a player in Travs circumstances it would be a great move and although i'd be loathed to lose him now under normal times 3 mill would be a good fee to re-invest a big lump of. Here though it will just evaporate overnight paying wages whilst they slot John Buckley into Travis position and pour money down the drain bringing in a skinny 10/15k a week Prem loan as back up. Most sane fans wouldn't like that but the agents would. Edited 13 hours ago by Tomphil2 2 Quote
davulsukur Posted 13 hours ago Posted 13 hours ago 17 minutes ago, JHRover said: Ribeiro cannot be treated as a contract extension in the normal sense of the word. He came into the club in January, bizarrely on a 6 months permanent deal, and then given his good contributions to the team deservedly had that extended. It was a very strange and almost unheard of situation to join a club on a permanent 6 month contract. I've never seen such a thing before. Most normal organisations would have simply given him a multi-year deal at the point of joining, so we can't really then claim credit for 'extending' it when through our own strange approach an extension became necessary after only a few months of him being here. Therefore no senior player has had a contract extension in 18 months. Invoking a 12 month option in the club's favour is not a contract extension, it is triggering a clause in an existing deal. We haven't even managed to tie down a below average, injury prone Ryan Hedges to a new deal. You would imagine he'd sign on basically the same terms, or without a significant uplift at the very least, relatively quickly. I'm not suggesting that we should be keeping him but the manager has stated that he wants to and you'd imagine this should have been a fairly straightforward deal to be done. 2 Quote
roversfan99 Posted 13 hours ago Posted 13 hours ago 6 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said: Yuri Ribeiro I meant Have I ever said that? Didn't Ismael say by the Spanish pre season camp late July? I think we have a couple in by them but not all. Maybe 3 out of the 6 or 7 signings Ismael wanted No, Ismael said it. Was just checking if you thought it was realistic/likely. So 3 signings in 3 weeks? Lets see but I fear you may be disappointed. Quote
47er Posted 13 hours ago Posted 13 hours ago 11 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said: I think we have a couple in by them but not all. Maybe 3 out of the 6 or 7 signings Ismael wanted We may well get them in in terms of numbers but I don't expect them to be superio or even equalr in quality. If we sell Travis do you really think we'll sign someone for that position who's as good? We're on a downward projection. 2 Quote
JHRover Posted 13 hours ago Posted 13 hours ago 13 minutes ago, davulsukur said: We haven't even managed to tie down a below average, injury prone Ryan Hedges to a new deal. You would imagine he'd sign on basically the same terms, or without a significant uplift at the very least, relatively quickly. I'm not suggesting that we should be keeping him but the manager has stated that he wants to and you'd imagine this should have been a fairly straightforward deal to be done. Can't even get Batth or Weimann to sign despite both playing big parts last season and having decent seasons. It really is tragic. 5 Quote
Forever Blue Posted 13 hours ago Posted 13 hours ago 33 minutes ago, Lancaster Rover said: I'm afraid it would be a no brainer if I were in Travis position. A young ambitious (judging by his wife's social media) newly married couple is a perfect match for a team with successive promotions, widespread positive worldwide media coverage, committed owners who are progressive and seemingly with ever improving infrastructure. If you look at it from a business/career point of view there is only 1 winner IMO, we're a club on very much a downward trajectory on all fronts, Wrexham are the opposite, as much as it pains me to admit that the famous Blackburn Rovers are a worse option than Wrexham. Wrexham are like Rovers were on the early 90s. They’ll be in the Prem within 3 years. 6 Quote
funny-old-game Posted 13 hours ago Posted 13 hours ago 44 minutes ago, Lancaster Rover said: I'm afraid it would be a no brainer if I were in Travis position. A young ambitious (judging by his wife's social media) newly married couple is a perfect match for a team with successive promotions, widespread positive worldwide media coverage, committed owners who are progressive and seemingly with ever improving infrastructure. If you look at it from a business/career point of view there is only 1 winner IMO, we're a club on very much a downward trajectory on all fronts, Wrexham are the opposite, as much as it pains me to admit that the famous Blackburn Rovers are a worse option than Wrexham. Sad but true😔 How did we come to this. 1 Quote
dallydally Posted 12 hours ago Posted 12 hours ago 2 minutes ago, funny-old-game said: Sad but true😔 How did we come to this. One word - Venkys! 1 Quote
funny-old-game Posted 12 hours ago Posted 12 hours ago 3 minutes ago, dallydally said: One word - Venkys! 🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮 Quote
Ricceh Posted 12 hours ago Posted 12 hours ago We've already completed 100% of our transfer business and so Ismael has his wish 7 Quote
TimmyJimmy Posted 12 hours ago Posted 12 hours ago 7 minutes ago, Ricceh said: We've already completed 100% of our transfer business and so Ismael has his wish Spot on. 100% of nothing = nothing. Job done. Exceeded our only promise (10% earlier). Good window. 2 Quote
rigger Posted 12 hours ago Posted 12 hours ago 1 hour ago, roversfan99 said: Bruno Ribeiro was a long time ago. Do you expect 90% in by the start of pre season? Yes I do, that is one of the problems. 90% of sod-all, is sod-all. Quote
bluebruce Posted 11 hours ago Posted 11 hours ago 2 hours ago, Tomphil2 said: The request made to India for funding several months ago. Is this a rumour or confirmed? Quote
MarkBRFC Posted 11 hours ago Posted 11 hours ago 2 minutes ago, bluebruce said: Is this a rumour or confirmed? Confirmed in the venkys court thread, documents are in there. 2 Quote
bluebruce Posted 11 hours ago Posted 11 hours ago 2 hours ago, JHRover said: Ribeiro cannot be treated as a contract extension in the normal sense of the word. He came into the club in January, bizarrely on a 6 months permanent deal, and then given his good contributions to the team deservedly had that extended. It was a very strange and almost unheard of situation to join a club on a permanent 6 month contract. I've never seen such a thing before. Most normal organisations would have simply given him a multi-year deal at the point of joining, so we can't really then claim credit for 'extending' it when through our own strange approach an extension became necessary after only a few months of him being here. Therefore no senior player has had a contract extension in 18 months. Invoking a 12 month option in the club's favour is not a contract extension, it is triggering a clause in an existing deal. Mostly agree, but it isn't unheard of at all. However it's pretty close to it for players of his age, who were on a longer deal at their existing club. It was a very odd deal. I can only think we weren't willing to pay a wage he wanted unless he proved himself, and he took the gamble for a chance to put himself in the Championship shop window. But I also suspect we must have bought out his existing contract, in which case why not just give him a longer deal here with that money and gain security. Very strange. Quote
Tomphil2 Posted 10 hours ago Posted 10 hours ago I presume they just took over the remainder of his existing wages but didn't want to commit until he'd proven himself. Â Quote
wilsdenrover Posted 10 hours ago Posted 10 hours ago 1 hour ago, bluebruce said: Is this a rumour or confirmed? Rovers requested the money 26th March Venkys filed an appeal with the court 22nd April Hearing confirms funds can be sent 26th May Venkys send Rovers the money ?????? 1 Quote
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