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21 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

Wrexham paid big players to attract former PL players there otherwise they wouldn't be going there.Β 

It’s also called trying. Our owners won’t, even though they have the money, especially from selling our best players.

Tighter than a submarine door.

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Posted
1 hour ago, chaddyrovers said:

why? you said the same about the winger we just signed.Β 

Ismael has said previously he did his own research on the club and the problems before his appointment yet he since wanted to come here.Β 

Think any out of work manager with a chequered history would grab a 3.5 year contract that might well give him financial security for life.

1 hour ago, chaddyrovers said:

There's a surprise that you are blaming Rovers.Β 

So you think we should be paying Travis 30k a week then if that what other clubs like Wrexham and Birmingham are?Β 

Yes Gestede should have been on with new contracts during the season but he didn't.Β 

We can still get them to sign new contracts even now.

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So presumably you are saying Gestede is out of his depth, totally inefficient and useless?

We will be lucky if we retain 1 of Brittain, Hyam, Travis and Tronstad - smell the coffee beans!!!

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13 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

I do cos Wrexham throw high wages at players to attract them to the club, That how they attract former PL players.Β 

Birmingham owners through money at signings last season like Jay Stansfield over Β£10m for him for a league 1 club blowing most championship clubs out of the water for signing him.Β 

Rovers have held talks with all 3 players now that has been reported by Elliott Jackson.Β 

on Diaz, we held talks under JDT and GB but he didn't want to sign. Dolan again GB tried to get him to sign a new contract but couldn't agree. Rothwell didn't want to be here, Nyambe not good enough anyway.Β 

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Like we did under Jack!

'Rovers have held talks' - wow, could be as little as 'hi there, how's your summer going'!!!

Just why the feck do players NOT WANT TO BE HERE!?!? - aint feckin rocket science

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12 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

Wrexham paid big players to attract former PL players there otherwise they wouldn't be going there.Β 

Like we did under Jack!

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You never give us trying to defend the indefensible - can you not see this?

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I think there are 2 issues here. Whether we should be being outbid by promoted sides for our captain and whether it should have got to this situation.

If Wrexham and Birmingham are offering such high wages then I don't necessarily think we should be paying wages that high.

But what is unacceptable is that it has again been allowed to get to this situation. To have 18 months of no contract extensions bar the peculiar Ribeiro situation. And to have not offered these 3 new deals at least by easter and we dont even know if a concrete offer has been offered even now is nothing short of scandalous.Β 

We now not only are in a much weaker position but we also have this circus going on whilst we also need to focus on getting players in.

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Posted
1 hour ago, chaddyrovers said:

I do cos Wrexham throw high wages at players to attract them to the club, That how they attract former PL players.Β 

Birmingham owners through money at signings last season like Jay Stansfield over Β£10m for him for a league 1 club blowing most championship clubs out of the water for signing him.Β 

Rovers have held talks with all 3 players now that has been reported by Elliott Jackson.Β 

on Diaz, we held talks under JDT and GB but he didn't want to sign. Dolan again GB tried to get him to sign a new contract but couldn't agree. Rothwell didn't want to be here, Nyambe not good enough anyway.Β 

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So you arent alarmed or annoyed by our repeated inability to get our best player signed up? Or even to get contracts in front of them well before now?

You dont see a pattern and just put it all down to numerous individual situations?

We shouldn't need to offer Β£30k. We should have offered these players new deals 12 months ago. There is no excuse but the owners and board will be pleased that you are doing your best to defend every single thing they fuck up.

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If players were tied down the likes of Wrexham and Brum wouldn't be after them because they'd have to pay big money and offer big wages.

As it is frees or contracts ticking down coupled with the fact these lads have been on low or modest wages means they are easy pickings. If our lads were on decent contracts then head turning is just head turning it happens all the time and if no big offer comes in they just have to get on with it where they are.

Again contracts ticking down or short term deals means the head gets turned and doesn't turn back because they are just watching the clock tick down to better money and more ambition. Ok players will always leave or be sold but here now this club has created a noose for its own neck which means in 90% of cases instead of 50% they'll be off.

Still, the middlemen and agents are happy and some would say that's no coincidence either.

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Posted
15 minutes ago, TommyRovers said:

Bring back Gregg Broughton. The only man who seemingly understood how contract negotiations workedΒ 

I didn't mind Broughton. At a well run club I think he'd do the business.Β Β 

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Posted (edited)
1 hour ago, TommyRovers said:

Bring back Gregg Broughton. The only man who seemingly understood how contract negotiations workedΒ 

They should in theory be pretty simple, get us promoted and you're set for life.Β 

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14 minutes ago, simongarnerisgod said:

ditto jdt,with some financial backing we`de be playing in the premier league nowπŸ˜₯

I reckon JDT would be perfect for Brentford but he's not even in the running

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Posted (edited)
2 hours ago, chaddyrovers said:

I do cos Wrexham throw high wages at players to attract them to the club, That how they attract former PL players.Β 

Birmingham owners through money at signings last season like Jay Stansfield over Β£10m for him for a league 1 club blowing most championship clubs out of the water for signing him.Β 

Rovers have held talks with all 3 players now that has been reported by Elliott Jackson.Β 

on Diaz, we held talks under JDT and GB but he didn't want to sign. Dolan again GB tried to get him to sign a new contract but couldn't agree. Rothwell didn't want to be here, Nyambe not good enough anyway.Β 

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Can I ask who Wrexham have thrown these huge wages at to sign? Players are attracted to the club due to the current high profile, their wages will be in the lower levels for a Championship club.

Google indicates that their wage bill is about 2/3 of ours. That seems to dismiss your view of them throwing huge wages at players (unless you think that’s what we do).

Can you share where your intel about these sky high Wrexham wages comes from??

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Posted (edited)
16 minutes ago, Ricky said:

Can I ask who Wrexham have thrown these huge wages at to sign? Players are attracted to the club due to the current high profile, their wages will be in the lower levels for a Championship club.

Google indicates that their wage bill is about 2/3 of ours. That seems to dismiss your view of them throwing huge wages at players (unless you think that’s what we do).

Can you share where your intel about these sky high Wrexham wages comes from??

Wrexham have had amongst the highest wage bill for whichever division they were in for the past few years.

That certainly sounds like paying high wages to attract the players they want ( nothing wrong with that of course).

We will of course have to wait and see whether they continue to do this in the Championship.Β 
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1 hour ago, Ricky said:

Can I ask who Wrexham have thrown these huge wages at to sign? Players are attracted to the club due to the current high profile, their wages will be in the lower levels for a Championship club.

Google indicates that their wage bill is about 2/3 of ours. That seems to dismiss your view of them throwing huge wages at players (unless you think that’s what we do).

Can you share where your intel about these sky high Wrexham wages comes from??

Thats their wage bill while in League One. It'll be much higher in the Championship

Posted

Different financial constraints in the championship right? Wrexhams ground holds less than 13k fans, they simply cannot be paying huge wages with their income. Birminghams ground isn't far off 30k, they're more likely to be able to throw a bit more cash aroundΒ 

Posted (edited)
12 minutes ago, Ossydave said:

Different financial constraints in the championship right? Wrexhams ground holds less than 13k fans, they simply cannot be paying huge wages with their income. Birminghams ground isn't far off 30k, they're more likely to be able to throw a bit more cash aroundΒ 

Wrexham’s turnover was higher than ours when they were still in League Two.

They’ve people driving them forward not running them down.

I think they’ll pay big again - whether that continues their progress is another matter altogether.Β 

Edited by wilsdenrover
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Posted

Wrexham have other sources of income like maybe netflix plus their corporate and merchandise sales will be booming, also with demand out stripping supply in terms of seats they probably charge more than us.

I'd imagine on the back of all that their advertising income is booming as well, chuck in the fact Travis won't be on big money here so it won't be that difficult to top the wages.

He might even settle for less per week if he gets 3 years and a signing on fee or promise of a big performance related rise.

Posted
11 hours ago, wilsdenrover said:

β€˜Wants big money’ - the blame game begins…

It's so obvious.

The same tactics time and time again.Β 

Pathetic that anyone would fall for it to be honest.

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