2025 Summer Transfer Thread. 😂

[chaddyrovers]

5 minutes ago, Wing Wizard Windy Miller said:

That's the problem. If we give him the game time first, he night not sign.  Club need to dictate the terms.  He's a decent prospect, not the next Messi.  No need to bend over backwards. 

And if we don't give him game time and he won't sign. He is good talent and prospect, and we need to develop him and hopefully that will convince him to sign here a new contract 

[Tomphil2]

1 minute ago, Emerald Isle Rover said:

So to be clear here 

Conor Bradley broke into Liverpool senior team at the age of 20 had one loan before hand

beck is 23 next month this will be his 4th loan 

Not sure that’s the same path

Being even clearer some lads develop at different speeds and Liverpool might be well stoked through the ranks in his position whereas other positions might suddenly have a vacancy on the conveyor belt.

 

[simongarnerisgod]

1 minute ago, Emerald Isle Rover said:

There’s a difference between generational talents and good players 

are you saying beck is going to be one of the best left backs in England and sought after by many of Europe’s finest?

you lost the debate as soon as you mentioned derrick williams being better than beck🤣hard to take you seriously after that🤣

[Forever Blue]

‘Fuck off Derrick’

Still a classic!

[Emerald Isle Rover]

2 minutes ago, Tomphil2 said:

Being even clearer some lads develop at different speeds and Liverpool might be well stoked through the ranks in his position whereas other positions might suddenly have a vacancy on the conveyor belt.

 

They have two left backs 

Robertson and tsimikas 31 / 29 

hardly stacked - listen I think beck can go on to be a very good player but to be made out on this forum he’s something he isn’t is baffling to me 

he missed 20 games through injury last season 

started 22 and sub 2 

 

[Emerald Isle Rover]

Just now, Forever Blue said:

‘Fuck off Derrick’

Still a classic!

Always gets me too lol brilliant 

[bluebruce]

8 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

And if we don't give him game time and he won't sign. He is good talent and prospect, and we need to develop him and hopefully that will convince him to sign here a new contract 

So you suggest giving him game time, potentially costing us points, and hoping it convinces him to sign, rather than boosting his profile, attracting the big fish even more, resulting in him buggering off ASAP like Finneran and Phillips? Truthfully we don't have a great hit rate with this.

I'd want him to sign before I give him any guarantees of playing time (and tell him he'll get game time if he signs it). Once he's securely our asset for the next 3+ years I'm happy to give him extra game time to develop him. Until then I'd only want to play him when the situation merits it purely on his current playing ability.

Edited July 21 by bluebruce

[Emerald Isle Rover]

5 minutes ago, simongarnerisgod said:

you lost the debate as soon as you mentioned derrick williams being better than beck🤣hard to take you seriously after that🤣

I’d rather have my opinion over a player who has played over 100 games for rovers with a player of the season to his collection also than somebody with potential but a poor injury record for us 

wasn’t it you last week said you heard noises from brockhall that de neve was terrible in training couldn’t do drills and had an awful touch - yea after you posted that there’s absolutely nothing from your account that can be taken seriously 

[pick32]

48 minutes ago, Tyrone Shoelaces said:

Name me a better one in the last 20 years. I’m getting a bit lost in time there but only Stephen Warnock comes to mind to me.

Martin Olsson

[simongarnerisgod]

2 minutes ago, Emerald Isle Rover said:

I’d rather have my opinion over a player who has played over 100 games for rovers with a player of the season to his collection also than somebody with potential but a poor injury record for us 

wasn’t it you last week said you heard noises from brockhall that de neve was terrible in training couldn’t do drills and had an awful touch - yea after you posted that there’s absolutely nothing from your account that can be taken seriously 

put the spade away,that hole is getting bigger by the minute

i was told by someone close to the club that he was shocking,maybe after getting a few weeks training in,he`s getting his touch back

[Emerald Isle Rover]

1 minute ago, simongarnerisgod said:

put the spade away,that hole is getting bigger by the minute

i was told by someone close to the club that he was shocking,maybe after getting a few weeks training in,he`s getting his touch back

Yes I’m sure you were hahaha 

[B16Rover]

Can see us getting Luca Stephenson on loan from Liverpool.  Similar development path Beck followed and can play full back and in the middle 

[RoverCanada]

11 minutes ago, pick32 said:

Martin Olsson

Hell, Marcus was immense too when he seemingly suddenly broke through, winning player of the season in 14-15.

Both Olssons still playing in the Allsvenskan.

[roversfan99]

24 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

same old repeating comments cos I don't agree with you about actually giving our talent young players proper game time

firstly, Tyjon won't commit until he knew whether he will get the game time Ismael has said, 

Secondly, Rovers also have to commit to Tyjon by given him proper game time, not just the odd minute here and there. 

thirdly, You don't know if he is physically but the only way you will know is by actual playing him. 

 

You comments about whether he can cope with pressure or whether he is physically read. The only way you will know is by playing him, developing him. Far too cautious with everything. Good job you were in charge otherwise Raya, Buckley and Wharton would have never develop and played as much ever. You keep saying you aren't again develop young players Well your comments suggest another thing 

Again, you arent reading what I am putting.

How is it negative? Thats what I asked.

Wharton had long periods of not playing in his first season but he is a freak, a special talent. Raya had 3 seasons where he only played very occasionally and a loan spell before he broke in. And now Buckley has appeared as if he is a success story and hasnt just been a waste of a wage for about 3 or 4 seasons.

I know we dont know if he is physically capable. If we dont sign another number 10 (is he even naturally a number 10 anyway?) and he comes in and cant cope physically, then what? He has picked up a number of injuries in youth football so its hardly out of the question, if we dont sign anyone then we are a Cantwell injury away from him having to play game after game and its unfair on him to expect so much.

I am not saying never play him. If he shows when he does play (good opportunity in the cup for him initially) that he is ready now, then by all means the shirt is his and he can be really fasttracked. Its not a case of, if we sign someone, he never plays. Equally, even if he is ready, he likely will have a dip at some point. Wharton was taken out for a while. That way, we can do that. I dont feel comfortable putting all our eggs in the Tyjon basket so soon, partially because its unfair on him.

Maybe even sign someone that can also play wide (or even deeper) so if Tyjon is ready, then theres scope for both potentially.

And I would also like him to actually commit to a new deal (knowing the plan) before we invest this time in him.

[Bbrovers2288]

Derick Williams lol, bloke had a 50p heed, frustrated the hell put me when he wasted good chances as he couldn’t head for toffee. He wasn’t very good. His move to the mls confirmed that 

[Exiled_Rover]

24 minutes ago, bluebruce said:

So you suggest giving him game time, potentially costing us points, and hoping it convinces him to sign, rather than boosting his profile, attracting the big fish even more, resulting in him buggering off ASAP like Finneran and Phillips? Truthfully we don't have a great hit rate with this.

I'd want him to sign before I give him any guarantees of playing time (and tell him he'll get game time if he signs it). Once he's securely our asset for the next 3+ years I'm happy to give him extra game time to develop him. Until then I'd only want to play him when the situation merits it purely on his current playing ability.

The hole in the argument is that they're unwilling to spend money so he'll play by default rather than by some grand design. 

[roversfan99]

48 minutes ago, Dreams of 1995 said:

Replacing Dolan will be one of the easier tasks we have faced

He still sits as that free agent. Is he demanding that much in wages? JE is signing anyone who is available who wore a Rovers shirt last year. Dolan though, despite his deep and meaningful connection….still nothing

The signs are there that Dolan isn’t fancied much. I don’t blame them. He’s had his purple patch….and it was more mauve than it was purple 

What has happened since is irrelevant to replacing what Dolan provided last season. But I very much doubt that Dolan is just sat around with absolutely no offers or interest.

If we signed a winger that had done what Dolan did from another Championship club. Or even one with a fancy exotic name who has provided a similar number of goals and assists in a lesser league. We would be excited.

[Tyrone Shoelaces]

33 minutes ago, Emerald Isle Rover said:

There’s a difference between generational talents and good players 

are you saying beck is going to be one of the best left backs in England and sought after by many of Europe’s finest?

The point I’m making is you don’t need to watch a player for 20 games to know whether they’re a good ‘un or not. If Beck can get over that injury he suffered at Rovers he’ll go on to be a Premier League player. Maybe not at Liverpool but certainly at another Premier League club.

[Bbrovers2288]

Would’ve been in for windass as I mentioned earlier in the thread, but looks like he has decent options elsewhere 

[Exiled_Rover]

59 minutes ago, M_B said:

If you're offering me Dolan or Sigurdson for next season, it's Dolan every time. 

To play which position?

[London blue]

Derek Williams was mediocre.

Martin Olsson and Gael Givet were streets ahead of Beck.

[Emerald Isle Rover]

Just now, Tyrone Shoelaces said:

The point I’m making is you don’t need to watch a player for 20 games to know whether they’re a good ‘un or not. If Beck can get over that injury he suffered at Rovers he’ll go on to be a Premier League player. Maybe not at Liverpool but certainly at another Premier League club.

No but I’d suggest that you would need to watch a player for more than 25 games for them to be called your clubs best left back in decades or the last 15 years 

iv stated beck is good im not having hes been our best left back in the last 15 years and id say if you asked many managers ex players etc id be very surprised if he was even mentioned 

[Hasta]

27 minutes ago, pick32 said:

Martin Olsson

…is the right answer.

[Exiled_Rover]

1 hour ago, davulsukur said:

Great signing, for Derby

Damn, John, if you wanted our team from last year why did you leave? 😆

[Hasta]

Just now, Exiled_Rover said:

Damn, John, if you wanted our team from last year why did you leave? 😆

Ask Suhail.