2025 Summer Transfer Thread. 😂

[oneandycrawford]

3 minutes ago, Emerald Isle Rover said:

EJ confirms no change on the Brittain situation nobody has met his valuation 

have to say the level of sports journalism in general is really poor 

Read this as EU confirms no change on the Brittain situation. Was wondering what sports journalism had to do with Brexit!

[Tomphil2]

1 hour ago, oneandycrawford said:

Speaking as a trained and qualified project manager I totally agree. A well-run project has a start and end. It also has an agreed set of objectives and ways to measure those ongoing once the project has been delivered.

An ongoing project with no end is a bad one. That's not to say they don't exist and I've been involved in a few in my time - usually involving the introduction of tech.

What people in football refer to as a 'project' should really be referred to as a 'programme' as that can be ongoing and has multiple phases (projects) within it.

What is going on at Rovers doesn't seem to satisfy any of the above - I think the technical term is 'clusterfuck'. And I've been involved in a few of those as well 😄

 

Its always been short termism they wing it and cobble a squad together every summer there is no steadfast plan nor goal to build towards and never has been.

I do believe that the occasional new man has come in with a plan and they to a degree have gone along implementing the foundations, in fact that's happened a number of times, only to then quickly change track and pull it all to bits again. With Venkys you are only ever a few weeks away from the next odd decision or situation no matter how stable or well things might be going on the surface.

That will NEVER change.

Edited 7 hours ago by Tomphil2

[RevidgeBlue]

1 hour ago, Exiled_Rover said:

The project is keeping this gravy train going for our Execs as long as possible before admin sets in.

Nailed it.

Edit: With a bit of luck from their point of view, might get 3-4 years out of a complete reset and a new Mowbray type "journey" before everyone cottons on it hasn't worked.

Edited 6 hours ago by RevidgeBlue

[simongarnerisgod]

the illogical nature of the indians was highlighted by the fact they did`nt even talk to mowbray about a new contract,despite him being fully behind their "project",they then hired 2 ambitious managers,who they chopped off at the knees then employed another one in ismael,no doubt they`ll do the same to him if he threatens to build a good side and then probably start the cycle again by hiring a coyle,nothing they`ve ever done in 15 years has made any logical sense football wise,why would you keep derailing the side every january

[Tyrone Shoelaces]

1 hour ago, islander200 said:

He was sent back from his loan at Bolton due to injury.He also got injured when in Scotland.

His injury issues didn't just appear when he signed here

He got stuck in and he didn’t take a backward step. I liked that about him. Sometimes you can be too brave for your own good. As he gets older he’ll learn how to look after himself better on the pitch. 

Edited 5 hours ago by Tyrone Shoelaces

[simongarnerisgod]

whats happened to exodus mafumbi??seems to have disapeared completely

[Exiled_Rover]

2 minutes ago, simongarnerisgod said:

whats happened to exodus mafumbi??seems to have disapeared completely

Got injured when out on loan, but I gather he's never pulled up any trees when playing for the Academy. 

[RTM08]

2 hours ago, Emerald Isle Rover said:

have to say the level of sports journalism in general is really poor 

All journalism honestly. The current state of social media and the internet means that it's completely driven to drive clicks, and the easiest way to that is outrage journalism. In sports, there is also the added annoyance of agents and clubs spreading misinformation to unsettle players and clubs alike, and in Rovers' case there is the complete incompetence at our end that allows that to propagate further.

[RoversClitheroe]

I'll say it:

Tyjon is better than Cantwell has been ever since Cantwell has turned up in a Rovers shirt.

[Theaxe15]

6 minutes ago, RoversClitheroe said:

I'll say it:

Tyjon is better than Cantwell has been ever since Cantwell has turned up in a Rovers shirt.

It’s been a couple of friendlies…

[RoversClitheroe]

Just now, Theaxe15 said:

It’s been a couple of friendlies…

Yep

[Tomphil2]

1 hour ago, simongarnerisgod said:

the illogical nature of the indians was highlighted by the fact they did`nt even talk to mowbray about a new contract,despite him being fully behind their "project",they then hired 2 ambitious managers,who they chopped off at the knees then employed another one in ismael,no doubt they`ll do the same to him if he threatens to build a good side and then probably start the cycle again by hiring a coyle,nothing they`ve ever done in 15 years has made any logical sense football wise,why would you keep derailing the side every january

It's bonkers it really is.

I know there are a few conspiracies, some with legs and some without but if you were deliberately trying to hold something suspended in the same loop over and over and maybe cover something up then you'd go about it the way they do.

Even with other clubs with crazy ownership you can kind of see what's at play when some overspend trying a quick fix then it goes wrong and they are in the shit.  Others like Watford try and play a different game and of course there are the Brums and Wrexham's driven by ego.

These lot though ?

Even if some don't agree it's the worst ownership it is without doubt the strangest ....and longest oddball situation in football.

[Exiled_Rover]

22 minutes ago, RoversClitheroe said:

I'll say it:

Tyjon is better than Cantwell has been ever since Cantwell has turned up in a Rovers shirt.

He'd light up whatever league Qatar SC play in that's for sure. 

[KentExile]

52 minutes ago, simongarnerisgod said:

whats happened to exodus mafumbi??seems to have disapeared completely

 

49 minutes ago, Exiled_Rover said:

Got injured when out on loan, but I gather he's never pulled up any trees when playing for the Academy. 

Came off the bench for the U21s a couple of weeks ago, not sure if he played vs Tranmere this weekend as there have been no team sheets that I've seen

Edited 4 hours ago by KentExile

[wilsdenrover]

1 hour ago, simongarnerisgod said:

whats happened to exodus mafumbi??seems to have disapeared completely

He left and took everyone else with him.

[rigger]

10 minutes ago, wilsdenrover said:

He left and took everyone else with him.

Wandering around the wilderness (Burnley).

Edited 4 hours ago by rigger

[wilsdenrover]

3 minutes ago, rigger said:

Wandering around the wilderness (Burnley).

I’d associate Burnley more with Revelations.

I bet no one expected this thread would take a biblical turn 😁😁

[joey_big_nose]

12 hours ago, MarkBRFC said:

It doesn't matter if Tyjon plays 4 games or 40 games, he won't be signing a new contract here, because nobody does.

As proven for the past 19/20 months.

I disagree.. if he is getting first team games he will sign up. Issue with Ash Phillips was he only got a few token games here or there. If hed been given a regular start he would have signed imo.

Im not saying Phillips was worth playing as a first team regular, just that a scholar who gets first team games is going to sign. Same for Tyjon. 

Creates a strange incentive where shakier players are getting games just because they could be worth more when eventually sold. But that is where we are.

 

Edited 3 hours ago by joey_big_nose

[rigger]

6 minutes ago, wilsdenrover said:

I’d associate Burnley more with Revelations.

I bet no one expected this thread would take a biblical turn 😁😁

The Rapture.

[Exiled_Rover]

3 minutes ago, joey_big_nose said:

I disagree.. if he is getting first team games he will sign up. Issue with Ash Phillips was he only got a few token games here or there. If hed been given a regular start he would have signed imo.

Im not saying Phillips was worth playing as a first team regular, just that a scholar who gets first team games is going to sign. Same for Tyjon. 

Creates a strange incentive where shakier players are getting games just because they are worth more when eventually sold. But that is where we are.

 

They played Phillips as much as they dared - he wasn't ready. He clearly thought he was better than he is as he scarpered at the first opportunity. 

Tyjon has already moved once in his career so I wouldn't expect any loyalty from him. 

Edited 3 hours ago by Exiled_Rover

[joey_big_nose]

1 minute ago, Exiled_Rover said:

They played Phillips as much as they dared - he wasn't ready. He clearly thought he was better than he is as he scarpered at the first opportunity. 

Tyjon has already moved once in his career so I wouldn't expect any loyalty from him. 

I agree on Philips.

On Tyjon I dont think its loyalty, its recognising that your own value and career progression is reay tied up in how many first team games you are playing. Its worth more to his career playing first team in the Championship than U21s for a prem team.

[Exiled_Rover]

40 minutes ago, KentExile said:

 

Came off the bench for the U21s a couple of weeks ago, not sure if he played vs Tranmere this weekend as there have been no team sheets that I've seen

Considering he's taking up an ESC slot you'd have to think they're looking to move him on. 

[Emerald Isle Rover]

4 minutes ago, joey_big_nose said:

I agree on Philips.

On Tyjon I dont think its loyalty, its recognising that your own value and career progression is reay tied up in how many first team games you are playing. Its worth more to his career playing first team in the Championship than U21s for a prem team.

Unfortunately in a world with money driven agents with agendas that’s no longer the case

agents and maybe parents too would likely rather see/say their son is an Arsenal player it’s sad but it’s a reality 

was mentioned on here before we need to sit down with him and get him to commit before we invest loads of game time in him. No point in doing so only for him couple months down the line to jump ship 

[joey_big_nose]

2 minutes ago, Emerald Isle Rover said:

Unfortunately in a world with money driven agents with agendas that’s no longer the case

agents and maybe parents too would likely rather see/say their son is an Arsenal player it’s sad but it’s a reality 

was mentioned on here before we need to sit down with him and get him to commit before we invest loads of game time in him. No point in doing so only for him couple months down the line to jump ship 

Well hopefully hes just good enough to play straight away, and it looks promising in that regard, so signing on solves itself.

His agents will look at their clients and their own earning potential and know a good Championship season will make them a lot more money than skulking round the reserve leagues and loans for a couple of seasons.

[roversfan99]

1 hour ago, RoversClitheroe said:

I'll say it:

Tyjon is better than Cantwell has been ever since Cantwell has turned up in a Rovers shirt.

 

1 hour ago, Theaxe15 said:

It’s been a couple of friendlies…

Not only that, a couple of friendlies in which you would have a strong argument to say that Cantwell was our best player.

Still also dont understand calling McLoughlin a terrible signing either.