2025 Summer Transfer Thread. 😂

[MarkBRFC]

Worth nothing that if Miyoshi plays in the Bundesliga 2 then he would no longer be eligible without an ESC place so would rule him out signing for us. His time at Birmingham doesn't come into it.

He didn't play last weekend when there league started, and his club plays on Sunday at 12:30.

Be interesting to see if he's involved.

For this one, I think Nixons info is well out of date, he was going on about a winger weeks ago and it doesn't seem close at all. Also struggle to see us paying that kind of money for someone who is 28.

Nixon was also banging on about Kapaudi saying our bid was live for a good week after McLoughlin signed when it clearly wasn't, and was still pushing Baradji as late as this weekend despite us having no ESC spots available.

Edited 4 hours ago by MarkBRFC

[Exiled_Rover]

3 hours ago, alexanders said:

Watched a bit of the highlights against NEC and especially Hedges positioning. Also seen highlights from Axel in GAIS. 
He could/would slot right in Hedges place in the XI. 
His attributes is quite similar to hedges just better hopefully. Defensive work, engine. Not a tricky and pacy winger. 
Ismael doesn’t seem to want that. 

Does he not want that or does he literally not have one of those in his squad right now?

[KentExile]

5 minutes ago, Exiled_Rover said:

Does he not want that or does he literally not have one of those in his squad right now?

Could be either, but as things currently stand, assuming everyone is fit, I would much prefer to see Henriksson as a "right winger" than anyone else who we currently have on our books. 

I would also have Kargbo on the left ahead of De Neve/Hedges.  But suspect that this weekend at least, we will see De Neve on the left and Hedges on the right

 

Edited 4 hours ago by KentExile

[wilsdenrover]

24 minutes ago, MarkBRFC said:

Worth nothing that if Miyoshi plays in the Bundesliga 2 then he would no longer be eligible without an ESC place so would rule him out signing for us. His time at Birmingham doesn't come into it.

He didn't play last weekend when there league started, and his club plays on Sunday at 12:30.

Be interesting to see if he's involved.

For this one, I think Nixons info is well out of date, he was going on about a winger weeks ago and it doesn't seem close at all. Also struggle to see us paying that kind of money for someone who is 28.

Nixon was also banging on about Kapaudi saying our bid was live for a good week after McLoughlin signed when it clearly wasn't, and was still pushing Baradji as late as this weekend despite us having no ESC spots available.

The reference point for league minutes is the past 12 months so I think he keeps any Bundesliga ‘points’ for now. 

I first thought his points would gradually reduce through the year but as it’s minutes played as a percentage of minutes available I don’t think it will.

I’m not aware of a minimum games threshold but don’t have time to double check that at the moment (it does seem strange that there wouldn’t be one).

[Mercer]

39 minutes ago, KentExile said:

Could be either, but as things currently stand, assuming everyone is fit, I would much prefer to see Henriksson as a "right winger" than anyone else who we currently have on our books. 

I would also have Kargbo on the left ahead of De Neve/Hedges.  But suspect that this weekend at least, we will see De Neve on the left and Hedges on the right

 

Think you are right leading to an almost inevitable opening day loss.

[roversfan99]

1 hour ago, M_B said:

Nothing has changed, but we've to go back to Armstrong for a comparison. 

Ismael said he wanted to keep Britain but the club sold him when it was obvious that he wasn't going to sign, I'd say that was the correct thing to do.

As far as the others go, let's see what happens, each one is an individual case. An "inability" to resign them may be an unwillingness, especially with the midfield reinforcements. The player himself may not actually want to sign. 

If  Tronstad, Travis or Hyam resign or are sold before their contracts expire, on top of the Britain sale, would that then suggest to you that things may just be changing? 

At the moment though it is just one sale.

But even if we sold them all, until we can start agreeing new contracts with at least some players then it undermines everything. Its a massive worry. Why do they all want to stay?

I suggest we arent offering competitive wages and we also arent being proactive in actually offering them.

1 hour ago, chaddyrovers said:

I always thought @roversfan99was in favour of selling players for fees before their contract. He was in favour of selling Rothwell when he only had 6 months left on his deal and BBD when we were offer 10m by Fulham

You should, but why can we not agree new deals with any of our important players?

[roversfan99]

1 hour ago, chaddyrovers said:

Talking transfer not contract renewals. You mixing both in

Because they go hand in hand in terms of building a squad.

Why cant we agree any new deals?

[MarkBRFC]

Wait until 2027, everyone bar our new signings are out of contract then.

Some will have the kick the can down the road 12 months options though I suppose.

[M_B]

5 minutes ago, roversfan99 said:

At the moment though it is just one sale.

But even if we sold them all, until we can start agreeing new contracts with at least some players then it undermines everything. Its a massive worry. Why do they all want to stay?

I suggest we arent offering competitive wages and we also arent being proactive in actually offering them.

You should, but why can we not agree new deals with any of our important players?

It is/has been a problem, I've been saying for a few weeks that things do seem different to the last few years, but it's the  proof of the pudding and all that.

Hopefully we see a change for the better. 

[Tugayisgod]

2 hours ago, alexanders said:

 

A farewell from GAIS to Axel: 

Translated to:

This guy is the persona of GAIS. Heart of a warrior, always 100%, tough as nails, full of energy and a gameplay always directed towards attacking goal. 
A strong man, a  bearer of our culture, colors and name. 
Axel Henriksson you are worth every minute and every penny to go to England. You have given us hope, happiness and lust. We thank you a lot for the moments! We will miss you, but don’t forget us. You are always welcome back. 

Not bad..

Funny how foreign fans seem to bear no animosity to players leaving their club, wishing them all the best. Yet over here they are regarded somehow as traitors for daring to leave for new challenges.

Maybe it's just the British mentality.

[KentExile]

7 minutes ago, Tugayisgod said:

Funny how foreign fans seem to bear no animosity to players leaving their club, wishing them all the best. Yet over here they are regarded somehow as traitors for daring to leave for new challenges.

Maybe it's just the British mentality.

I would think its possibly more a historically smaller club mentality... Its expected that the better players will move on to something better

Wait until all our fans are not old enough to remember pre Venky Rovers & our fans may be waving players off whilst wishing them the best too 

"Well it is the mighty Wrexham, they are a top half Premier League team and qualified for Europe don't you know.  How can little National League Rovers compete with them?"

Edited 3 hours ago by KentExile

[Exiled_Rover]

11 minutes ago, Tugayisgod said:

Funny how foreign fans seem to bear no animosity to players leaving their club, wishing them all the best. Yet over here they are regarded somehow as traitors for daring to leave for new challenges.

Maybe it's just the British mentality.

It just means more.

[SIMON GARNERS 194]

Every Player we sign is for an undisclosed fee.

[KentExile]

2 minutes ago, SIMON GARNERS 194 said:

Every Player we sign is for an undisclosed fee.

With the exception of free transfers, every player that everyone signs is for an undisclosed fee

Edited 3 hours ago by KentExile

[Mercer]

12 minutes ago, KentExile said:

With the exception of free transfers, every player that everyone signs is for an undisclosed fee

IMO, it's just to hide the true cost so the club through the media can then over-egg and over-hype the transfer fees so the gullible in our fan base think we are really splashing the cash.

Edited 2 hours ago by Mercer

[magicalmortensleftpeg]

4 minutes ago, Mercer said:

IMO, it's just to hide the true cost so the club through the media can then over-egg and over-hype the transfer fees so the gullible in our fan base think we are really splashing the cash.

It happens at every club..

[KentExile]

25 minutes ago, Mercer said:

IMO, it's just to hide the true cost so the club through the media can over-egg and over-hype the transfer fees so the gullible in our fan base think we are really splashing the cash.

It serves the purposes of all clubs and the media

National media get to sensationalise amounts and get more clicks etc

Selling club & buying club (and their local journos) both get to claim they got a great deal

Accounts appear circa 2 years later, with all transfer fees amalgamated into one, so it is still murky even then.

Even for loan deals, some of the loan fees are eye-watering and not disclosed.   Hull were meant to pay over £500K £1M for Louie Barry for half a season, even though he had never played above League 1 level previously.  I think that amount was only revealed as Hull didn't pay it in time

Edit - I stand corrected, it was a £1M loan fee for what was in essence a 4 month loan

 

Edited 2 hours ago by KentExile

[Exiled_Rover]

7 minutes ago, Mercer said:

IMO, it's just to hide the true cost so the club through the media can then over-egg and over-hype the transfer fees so the gullible in our fan base think we are really splashing the cash.

I agree with what Glen said - we're not spending big (we'll have covered our costs anyway with the sales), but they're not going to rush out and correct the figures that have been bandied around because it doesn't benefit them to.

[Exiled_Rover]

3 minutes ago, KentExile said:

It serves the purposes of all clubs and the media

National media get to sensationalise amounts and get more clicks etc

Selling club & buying club (and their local journos) both get to claim they got a great deal

Even for loan deals, some of the ,loan fees are eye-watering.  Pretty sure from memory, Hull were meant to pay over £500K for Louie Barry for half a season, even though he had never played above League 1 level previously.  I think that amount was only revealed as Hull didn't pay it in time

And also why loans are moronic unless you're pushing for promotion.

Spending £x,000 to develop someone else's player whilst being happy to bob around mid table is stupid.

[KentExile]

Just now, Exiled_Rover said:

And also why loans are moronic unless you're pushing for promotion.

Spending £x,000 to develop someone else's player whilst being happy to bob around mid table is stupid.

I had the figures wrong, it was £1M, so even more mental

[Tyrone Shoelaces]

35 minutes ago, KentExile said:

I would think its possibly more a historically smaller club mentality... Its expected that the better players will move on to something better

Wait until all our fans are not old enough to remember pre Venky Rovers & our fans may be waving players off whilst wishing them the best too 

"Well it is the mighty Wrexham, they are a top half Premier League team and qualified for Europe don't you know.  How can little National League Rovers compete with them?"

I lot depends on the player and the circumstances of their leaving. Most people on here were wishing Sammi well because of how he played and they could see he deserved a shot at the big time.

Edited 2 hours ago by Tyrone Shoelaces

[joey_big_nose]

Miyoshi is an established Championship player. I am struggling to see how his wage demands would be lower than Brittain, Travis or Tronstad?

[JBiz]

10 minutes ago, joey_big_nose said:

Miyoshi is an established Championship player. I am struggling to see how his wage demands would be lower than Brittain, Travis or Tronstad?

I think there are tiers of “established championship players” personally.

Looking at those three outside inwardly, without the knowledge of our backroom, you would easily argue that they’re all established top half experienced players, two out of three still young (and therefore more valuable!)

The lad from Germany’s last experience was relegation with Brum I think? Oh and then relegation in Germany too 😂 

 

[joey_big_nose]

4 minutes ago, JBiz said:

I think there are tiers of “established championship players” personally.

Looking at those three outside inwardly, without the knowledge of our backroom, you would easily argue that they’re all established top half experienced players, two out of three still young (and therefore more valuable!)

The lad from Germany’s last experience was relegation with Brum I think? Oh and then relegation in Germany too 😂 

 

He was a top player for Birmingham City despite the team being relegated and moved to Bochum in the Budasliga (not Budasliga 2). So in terms of his career he has played at a higher level than any of Travis, Tronstad or Brittain. Hence my confusion on the wages.

Edited 2 hours ago by joey_big_nose

[JHRover]

Maybe he has a more popular agent that 2025 Rovers are willing to do business with than any of Travis, Tronstad or Brittain?