2025 Summer Transfer Thread. 😂

[lraC]

43 minutes ago, Beanie01289 said:

we COULD afford many players but the people running the day to day of the club will not allow money to be spent

Pasha said “Spending money on players, does not guarantee success”. 

[Beanie01289]

59 minutes ago, lraC said:

Pasha said “Spending money on players, does not guarantee success”. 

it does not hes right but selling everyone and not adequately replacing them does garentee league 1

[alexanders]

Selling Travis is for me a poor decision. I love that guy, and even though he is limited he gives me so much to cheer about. Standing up for his mates, giving 100%, shithouse. 
 

He is Arte & Labore 

[Wing Wizard Windy Miller]

Travis is one of those vocal,  niggly, dark arts characters that every club needs. Ability wise he' s a solid top half championship player but it's the other qualities he has that make him an integral squad member.  

Can you replace his stats in the pitch? More than likely.  That's not the whole picture though.  

Value wise, given his contract, I'd say £2 - 2.5 mil is a fair deal.  

[MarkBRFC]

Amazing that all we had to do was give Mafoumbi 30 seconds of league action last season and we could have converted him to a GBE slot this summer.

[wilsdenrover]

2 minutes ago, MarkBRFC said:

Amazing that all we had to do was give Mafoumbi 30 seconds of league action last season and we could have converted him to a GBE slot this summer.

Assuming I’m right about this, we could still give him those 30 seconds now.

Whether the conversion paperwork would then happen quick enough for us to re-use his ESC place this window  is anyone’s guess.

 

[RoversClitheroe]

Just now, wilsdenrover said:

Assuming I’m right about this, we could still give him those 30 seconds now.

Whether the conversion paperwork would then happen quick enough for us to re-use his ESC place this window  is anyone’s guess.

 

You are absolutely correct by the way.

15 mins of champ football this season would convert too.

Should be a quick thing I'm sure.

[Tyrone Shoelaces]

1 hour ago, Wing Wizard Windy Miller said:

Travis is one of those vocal,  niggly, dark arts characters that every club needs. Ability wise he' s a solid top half championship player but it's the other qualities he has that make him an integral squad member.  

Can you replace his stats in the pitch? More than likely.  That's not the whole picture though.  

Value wise, given his contract, I'd say £2 - 2.5 mil is a fair deal.  

I noticed both of Trav and Tron turn an opposing marker and then not even have enough pace to get in front of the marker on Saturday. It happened on more than one occasion.  It was like they were running in quicksand. The marker got back in front and nicked the ball on each occasion. Much too pedestrian. Given what we’ve got up front, or more to the point what we haven’t got, we can’t afford two water carriers in central midfield. Something needs to change. We desperately need a player in there that can either carry the ball forward or make more penetrating passes.

Edited 1 hour ago by Tyrone Shoelaces

[Ricky]

17 minutes ago, MarkBRFC said:

Amazing that all we had to do was give Mafoumbi 30 seconds of league action last season and we could have converted him to a GBE slot this summer.

That’s mental. Surely if that was known by the management team he just gets thrown on in injury time in a game. I’m sure nobody our end even knew it was the case or considered we’d need the space now.

[aletheia]

Think making judgements on Trav and Tronstad on performance on Sat is a bit misleading. Not necessarily arguing with the fact that they are (good at this level) water carriers, I think non-footballing issues are affecting them. Trav is likely to go, clearly knows he is not wanted, so why go the extra 10%? Tronstad sees the mayhem around him, got a year left on a contract, and was clearly under par.

[KentExile]

6 minutes ago, MarkBRFC said:

Amazing that all we had to do was give Mafoumbi 30 seconds of league action last season and we could have converted him to a GBE slot this summer.

 

Just now, wilsdenrover said:

Assuming I’m right about this, we could still give him those 30 seconds now.

Whether the conversion paperwork would then happen quick enough for us to re-use his ESC place this window  is anyone’s guess.

 

Apparently Norwich signed someone in January whilst they had no ESC slots left, he just couldn't (and didn't) play or train for them until February (Wilsden has said something similar to this in the past)

However, it seems that 12 months is not the threshold, as Norwich converted at least 1 player after 6 months via differing methods.

The player Crnac who they refer to below was an U21 player (so the same as Mafoumbi in that respect), it sounds like he had to play in over 50% of minutes to convert, not just a single appearance.  Although the below gives me added hope that Toth & possibly Henriksson can be converted come January (February in Henrikssons case, once 1 full transfer window has passed)

 

The below is from this article

As per the rules, a player can be converted to full GBE status after one transfer window (if signed in the summer, then post-January), providing they are either able to qualify naturally through increased international minutes or have played a certain percentage of minutes for the club over the period of time that they have played for the club - for U21 players, that is 50pc of minutes. 

Once this happens, those currently in the ESC slot move to gain a GBE, thus freeing up a slot for another player to take. 

Crnac has now played 1,742 minutes in the Championship this season, which is over the 1,170 threshold eligible to convert his ESC into a GBE. But that window is only twice every year - in September and in February.

Once that process is complete, Jurasek can take over the vacant slot. Cordoba could also qualify for a GBE through Panama's improved Fifa ranking. It’s understood that Schwartau and Forson could also qualify for GBEs come the February window, but it is thought to still be tight. 

 

[Armchair supporter supremo]

1 hour ago, alexanders said:

Selling Travis is for me a poor decision. I love that guy, and even though he is limited he gives me so much to cheer about. Standing up for his mates, giving 100%, shithouse. 
 

He is Arte & Labore 

 

Aren't they all.... Until they get sniff of a better deal elsewhere. 

 

Like brittain he had a good purple patch last season but for most of his time here he's mostly been mediocre ability wise and has a habbit of disappearing in games when things aren't going well

 

That said. He will be missed massively in other ways 

[MarkBRFC]

Saw this on X this morning.

That would tell me that Mafoumbi only needs to make one appearance, as his debut gets him 5pts because he's under 21 and it would be his senior debut for any club, and the league is band 2 so automatically gets 10 points.

15 being what you need to convert.

Unless I'm reading it wrong of course!

Edited 2 hours ago by MarkBRFC

[RoversClitheroe]

3 minutes ago, MarkBRFC said:

Saw this on X this morning.

That would tell me that Mafoumbi only needs to make one appearance, as his debut gets him 5pts because he's under 21 and it would be his senior debut for any club, and the league is band 2 so automatically gets 10 points.

15 being what you need to convert.

Unless I'm reading it wrong of course!

You'd think the club should know this.

I fear they haven't a clue, and have no idea on it.

[KentExile]

2 minutes ago, MarkBRFC said:

Saw this on X this morning.

That would tell me that Mafoumbi only needs to make one appearance, as his debut gets him 5pts because he's under 21 and it would be his senior debut for any club, and the league is band 2 so automatically gets 10 points.

15 being what you need to convert.

Unless I'm reading it wrong of course!

In which case, Wilsden is correct, and the article from the Norwich end that I referred to is wrong

But it does make you wonder why haven't they done so, if they could, with 9 subs, it would have been very easy to get done in the early weeks of last season

[MarkBRFC]

4 minutes ago, KentExile said:

In which case, Wilsden is correct, and the article from the Norwich end that I referred to is wrong

 

I don't think the article is wrong.

I think the big difference is that Mafoumbi here would be a senior debut as he had only ever played youth football before signing.

Crnac had already played 80 odd senior games in the Croatian and Polish leagues before signing for Norwich.

Edited 2 hours ago by MarkBRFC

[KentExile]

1 hour ago, MarkBRFC said:

Saw this on X this morning.

That would tell me that Mafoumbi only needs to make one appearance, as his debut gets him 5pts because he's under 21 and it would be his senior debut for any club, and the league is band 2 so automatically gets 10 points.

15 being what you need to convert.

Unless I'm reading it wrong of course!

 

1 hour ago, RoversClitheroe said:

You'd think the club should know this.

I fear they haven't a clue, and have no idea on it.

Edited to include the right years rules 🙂 

According to the rules

Youth player = born on or after 01/01/2004

Mafoumbi was born in 2005, so he gets 5  Table 2 below) points for his debut, (Championship is band 2) unless Nantes B team counts as senior?  in which case he doesn't get those points.

It looks like he then gets an extra 10 points (Table 6 below) , which seems to be the same conclusion that Elliott Jackson has reached here

 

 

 

Edited 33 minutes ago by KentExile

[MarkBRFC]

5 minutes ago, KentExile said:

 

According to the rules

Youth player = born on or after 01/01/2002

Mafoumbi was born in 2005, so he gets points for his debut, but unless Im reading things wrong, he gets 5 points for his debut, and any more points are based on how many games/minutes he plays

 

 

Does make you wonder if the GBE expert is wrong on this looking at that table.

His X post this morning seemed to suggest that you get 10 points automatically for playing in a band two league, and then 5 points because it would be a senior debut, not just a debut for the club.

Edited 2 hours ago by MarkBRFC

[KentExile]

1 hour ago, MarkBRFC said:

Does make you wonder if the GBE expert is wrong on this looking at that table.

His X post this morning seemed to suggest that you get 10 points automatically for playing in a band two league, and then 5 points because it would be a senior debut, not just a debut for the club.

 

Previous post amended, looks like 1 appearance would do it

 

If this is the case then it is ludicrous that he wasn't given a few seconds off the bench at the beginning of last season

Edited 1 hour ago by KentExile

[Tomphil2]

54 minutes ago, Tyrone Shoelaces said:

I noticed both of Trav and Tron turn an opposing marker and then not even have enough pace to get in front of the marker on Saturday. It happened on more than one occasion.  It was like they were running in quicksand. The marker got back in front and nicked the ball on each occasion. Much too pedestrian. Given what we’ve got up front, or more to the point what we haven’t got, we can’t afford two water carriers in central midfield. Something needs to change. We desperately need a player in there that can either carry the ball or make more penetrating passes.

It stood out to me how pedestrian they all were in that first half it's what you might expect if they'd played 90 mins Saturday/Weds previously.

Loosened up a lot second half but first half they were wooden, beasted too hard in training perhaps or coached it down in the morning and didn't leave enough time to relax before the game ?

[Tyrone Shoelaces]

Just now, Tomphil2 said:

It stood out to me how pedestrian they all were in that first half it's what you might expect if they'd played 90 mins Saturday/Weds previously.

Loosened up a lot second half but first half they were wooden, beasted too hard in training perhaps or coached it down in the morning and didn't leave enough time to relax before the game ?

There wasn’t anybody saying - “ give me the bloody ball, I’ll make something happen “ . That was right through the team. A lot of buck ( and ball ) passing to players who weren’t in a better position than they were. Not one player with that “ X “ factor. No real pattern of play or a method of consistently getting the ball from our last third into their last third apart from a long ball up to Ohashi and then Gueye. 

[Mercer]

Think it's the domino effect following Rovers' total buggeration of contract renewals.

Brittain, Travis and Tronstad have seen the departures of Dolan, Batth and Weimann and the arrival of largely virtually unknown, unproven and cheap foreign imports.

Who can blame our better players?

Brittain gone,Travis almost certain to follow  and Tronstad who knows (is he merely going to barely tread water and see out his contract).

Just one huge feckin mess.

[Tyrone Shoelaces]

54 minutes ago, aletheia said:

Think making judgements on Trav and Tronstad on performance on Sat is a bit misleading. Not necessarily arguing with the fact that they are (good at this level) water carriers, I think non-footballing issues are affecting them. Trav is likely to go, clearly knows he is not wanted, so why go the extra 10%? Tronstad sees the mayhem around him, got a year left on a contract, and was clearly under par.

Travis got filled in off the ball early on and after that he seemed to be operating at half pace.

[roverblue]

Travis on his day is a top championship player, can be average on his bad days like Saturday.

Would be a big miss, especially when replaced by Gustavo Anonymous from some relegated Romanian team for 50k.

[JHRover]

There's a reason why people like Travis and Brittain are attracting interest from rival Championship clubs who will offer millions of pounds for them now despite them being out of contract in a year.

It is good business to get them even if that means paying a 7 figure sum now rather than waiting 12 months. They are good Championship players, who have been cornerstones of what should have been 2-3 play off finishes in the last 4 years (if the club hadn't deliberately sabotaged itself). 

There's also a reason why none of the signings we have made this summer attracted attention from rival Championship clubs. It isn't because we have a pioneering scouting network able to steal a march on rivals, it is because they are cheap high risk signings.

Some willing and happy to gamble the season and Championship status in the hope they turn out alright, other clubs take this game more seriously and want to ensure they sign proven quality.