2025 Summer Transfer Thread. 😂

[chaddyrovers]

7 minutes ago, roversfan99 said:

You are just parroting whatever the club says. We only need a right winger and replacements. The issues have all come pre Ismael. Season of transition.

The issues are not just historical. Yes, contracts should have been offered before and I was certainly stronger on that than you who told me to stop going on about it. But if those problems had been resolved, those deals could still be done in some cases. Take Hyam, even with a willingness to sign, we still are incapable of putting an improved deal in front of him. And you believe that its just all problems in the past? And things are different?

Montgomery was playing in the 9th tier last season. Because of cut backs, hes just assumed as a ready made first teamer. Its not healthy. Theres a difference between bringing in players that are ready and just shoving loads within the first team squad at once regardless of readiness to hit arbitary targets and cut costs.

I really don't know why I bothered and taking time to your questions cos you just come back that first sentence. So all getting abit tedious and monotonous with yourself now. I leave it there tonight and until after the Birmingham game. Let's hope we get our first win and we can go all home happy

[47er]

3 hours ago, simongarnerisgod said:

not sure where you`ve got that one from,jdt dropped him and preferred sonny and adam wharton ,then loaned him out to ipswich🙂

Are our saying it was JDT's decision to loan Travis out to Ipswich? Surely the motive was financial, to get him off the books?

That's hardly Head Coach territory is it?

 

[47er]

3 hours ago, roversfan99 said:

I dont know why you keep saying "historic failures" when the same idiots are running things.

He says it because that's what the Club said.

[47er]

2 hours ago, chaddyrovers said:

but we have a wage structure and budget,

but its too low!!!

[islander200]

1 minute ago, 47er said:

Are our saying it was JDT's decision to loan Travis out to Ipswich? Surely the motive was financial, to get him off the books?

That's hardly Head Coach territory is it?

 

The bean counters were happy to get him off the books but JDT did say that him and Travis had spoken and Travis wasn't happy that he wasn't playing .

He hadn't started a game In central midfield in something like 3 months as far as I can recall 

Utterly stupid to send him out and then sell Wharton like , but they had told JDT that Wharton wasn't being sold 

[JamieUK]

Just looked at some of the low value transfers in the division... Imagine a world where a club builds on progress and keeps their better players:

Toth, Pears
Brittain, NEW
Batth, Hyam, Carter, Wharton
Pickering, Ribeiro
Travis, Tronstad, NEW, NEW
Dolan, NEW
Cantwell, Wiemann
Kargbo, NEW
Ohashi, Gueye, NEW, NEW

Ryan Hardie comes in for £750k and any other striker from Emil Riis, Carlton Morris or Oli McBurnie on a free.

Djeidi Gassama for one of the wing spots - £2m, Kwame Poku on a free for the other.

Jeffrey Schlupp & John Swift on frees to cover midfield.

I'd be confident of a top 4 finish with JE in charge.

Instead we've spent around £4m (plus when the accounts are released no doubt we'll have one of the highest agent expenditures in the division) on mostly untested foreign imports. (Whilst bringing in roughly the same in sales let's not forget)

For anyone saying 'but the wages'... Adam Wharton, Sammie Szmodics, David Raya, Sam Gallagher, Leo Wahlstedt, Niall Ennis, Thomas Kaminski, Ashley Phillips, etc, etc. £40m+ income over the past 2 years.

Fuck knows where we'll be and what the squad will look like in another 12 months.

 

 

[Ossydave]

7 hours ago, glen9mullan said:

As ive posted previously and from multiple sources (at least 11) all either employees or players.

All points to one man , the one man who arrived last summer and is universally hated across the club more than suhail.

This aint about money, this is about the whole environment. One outgoing employee of many years who I had an hour chat with Saturday, puts the blame firmly at Gestedes door.

Id not post this if I couldn't support it either , hence Suhail was so desperate to have Gestedes name removed from the minutes 

Have you heard this one out of interest, players meals at Brockhall - they're now having to pay for them?

[yankfan]

13 hours ago, sharpysharps86 said:

Hate everything the club currently is. They're slowly but surely removing the players that formed an extremely together group of players that despite some limitations, fought for each other and had us punching around the playoffs.

By the end of this window, we look likely to have lost Batth, Weimann, Dolan, Brittain and Travis...with the possibility of Hyam and Tronstad to follow as well given they're probably not signing new deals either. That's basically the core of the team from last season.

What are we left with: A bunch of mostly ill equipped strangers with not enough championship experience between them, nor an understanding of what the club means to the fans....oh and don't forget Gueye - the comic relief. Where are the leaders going to come from?? I suspect I already know the answer - they're not coming.

This isn't a Rovers team anymore, which suitably reflects how this isn't the football club we once knew.

How anyone could possibly put a positive spin on the situation beggars belief.

Remembering the early days of success under JDT when most of the side were academy graduates or players like BBD who came over at a very young age. There was something extra special about a group that had grown into senior football at the ckub

[Upside Down]

6 hours ago, chaddyrovers said:

I really don't know why I bothered and taking time to your questions cos you just come back that first sentence. So all getting abit tedious and monotonous with yourself now. I leave it there tonight and until after the Birmingham game. Let's hope we get our first win and we can go all home happy

Do us all a favour then and don't bother talking again until you actually have something to say. 

And no, just parroting club propaganda does not count.

[glen9mullan]

1 hour ago, Ossydave said:

Have you heard this one out of interest, players meals at Brockhall - they're now having to pay for them?

Not one ive heard no

[Emerald Isle Rover]

8 hours ago, RevidgeBlue said:

As others have pointed out presumably you wouldn't want him saying in response to a question about how he thought  the young keeper and Montgomery did the other night:

"I know they're young lads and all that but fucking hell that was an eye opener tonight. Im not sure either will make it after seeing that"

or

" X was late for training the other day, I fined him a week's wages and tore a right strip off him. He didn't like it I'll tell you!"

More extreme examples obviously but do you think Vi's "transparency" will make the players feel more or less inclined to play for him? Or will they think "Im not playing for this fella, he might hang me to dry out in Public next like he did Trav".

Transparency for fans is what we have been after. Wanting to know what’s going on of course when it comes to post match interviews regarding performances we don’t need managers to tell us someone has played good/bad because we will have seen it. But that’s a preference whether they do or not. See Russell martins interview last week?

the transparency we are after is about stuff we don’t see and I’m perfectly fine with it. People are raising their eyebrows because Travis didn’t like it being made public well I’m very sorry Lewis but tough luck.

as for the other players if they don’t like honesty and or criticism then they aren’t the characters you want in your team anyway, I see no reason as to why anybody in the team would be sat back saying ‘I’m not playing for him I can’t believe he told the media Lewis asked to leave’ if and a big ‘if’ that’s the case then they can follow him out the door  

[Lucimo]

9 hours ago, glen9mullan said:

Things will come to a head sooner rather than later ,

Had a good 6 hours with Rory last night in Dublin  and tbh Rovers wise its been full on for the last 10 days in particular. So much leaking, people speaking out and the pieces coming together.

We've also got a fantastic guest lined up for WATR TV, which cant be missed.

Whilst there's fans who care, the war can be won 

When will that go out? Also you mentioned a law suit. Have I missed something or is it not common knowledge yet??

[BankEnd Rover]

9 hours ago, Emerald Isle Rover said:

We either want transparency or we don’t - no grey areas in between 

There's transparency when it needs to be said. There's also certain ways to say things, not just burt out a players wants to leave for another club. That's just naive and pure stupid!!!! 
 

Edited 3 hours ago by BankEnd Rover

[BankEnd Rover]

21 minutes ago, Emerald Isle Rover said:

Transparency for fans is what we have been after. Wanting to know what’s going on of course when it comes to post match interviews regarding performances we don’t need managers to tell us someone has played good/bad because we will have seen it. But that’s a preference whether they do or not. See Russell martins interview last week?

the transparency we are after is about stuff we don’t see and I’m perfectly fine with it. People are raising their eyebrows because Travis didn’t like it being made public well I’m very sorry Lewis but tough luck.

as for the other players if they don’t like honesty and or criticism then they aren’t the characters you want in your team anyway, I see no reason as to why anybody in the team would be sat back saying ‘I’m not playing for him I can’t believe he told the media Lewis asked to leave’ if and a big ‘if’ that’s the case then they can follow him out the door  

LOL what if what is being said by x manager is complete lies and has just been passed on from those above? Is that transparency? He should not of said it, it's pretty simple.

[KentExile]

Nothing at all to do with Rovers, but why do more and more Brazilians have names that don't sound very Brazilian

Kevin?  FFS!

That's as bad as Fred!

If someone is dropping €50M on him, he should at least have the good grace to change his name to Kevinolinho so he sounds a bit more exciting 😉 

 

 

Edited 3 hours ago by KentExile

[Tyrone Shoelaces]

13 minutes ago, BankEnd Rover said:

LOL what if what is being said by x manager is complete lies and has just been passed on from those above? Is that transparency? He should not of said it, it's pretty simple.

You think Travis doesn’t want to leave then ? 

[AndyB]

9 hours ago, glen9mullan said:

Until suhail exits , and with the club now facing a nice lawsuit (suhails doing) , its becoming the biggest circus in town

Which lawsuit is this?

[JBiz]

30 minutes ago, BankEnd Rover said:

There's transparency when it needs to be said. There's also certain ways to say things, not just burt out a players wants to leave for another club. That's just naive and pure stupid!!!! 
 

I don’t think so, if the players told the dressing room he wants to leave, I personally would want them out asap. That interview was a way of expediting that process Imo.

[Emerald Isle Rover]

34 minutes ago, BankEnd Rover said:

LOL what if what is being said by x manager is complete lies and has just been passed on from those above? Is that transparency? He should not of said it, it's pretty simple.

Why shouldn’t he have said that Lewis Travis has asked to leave do enlighten me?

[K-Hod]

Whilst I think Travis has been shafted and portrayed as the bad guy for wanting to leave, once the club knew that was the case, they shouldn’t play him and they should get on with the sale.

Not like they’ve no recent experience of selling players, is it?

[DutchRover]

Henriksson self-describes as an 8, so might see him and Tavares as the midfield duo once Trav and Tronstad are shipped off.

God help us with Forshaw and Montgomery as the only other options.

[islander200]

47 minutes ago, BankEnd Rover said:

There's transparency when it needs to be said. There's also certain ways to say things, not just burt out a players wants to leave for another club. That's just naive and pure stupid!!!! 
 

He has said numerous times that the players with only 1 year left are at risk of being sold.

It won't have been a secret to the other players that Travis was looking to move on. 

Quite plausible that he doesn't plan on starting Travis until the transfer situation has resolved one way or another so how would he explain it if Travis doesn't start v Brum? 

Travis isn't staying now 

[BankEnd Rover]

11 minutes ago, Emerald Isle Rover said:

Why shouldn’t he have said that Lewis Travis has asked to leave do enlighten me?

There's being transparent then there's being respectful. 

We all knew the crack with Trav, it was reported days before. If the Manager had any kind of respect for our club captain then he would have delivered his interview differently. 

A better answer - "This situation with Travis is difficult, there's is interest elsewhere and this is football"

not

"Travis wants to leave for Derby county"

It's a total lack of respect.

 

 

[Emerald Isle Rover]

3 minutes ago, BankEnd Rover said:

There's being transparent then there's being respectful. 

We all knew the crack with Trav, it was reported days before. If the Manager had any kind of respect for our club captain then he would have delivered his interview differently. 

A better answer - "This situation with Travis is difficult, there's is interest elsewhere and this is football"

not

"Travis wants to leave for Derby county"

It's a total lack of respect.

 

 

That’s your take and you’re entitled to it. Mine is I’m glad to see a manager tell us what’s happening and exactly how it is 

[Tomphil2]

There is zero point starting Travis now his head will be up his arse and the chances of him getting sent off or picking up a daft injury will increase ten fold.

No point having pops at Ismael either over what he says as i think it's clear putting things across isn't always his strong point and he's slap bang in the middle of it all anyway.

Lets leave the scrutiny on him to his tactics, team selection and subs, all of which need to be spot on tomorrow.