2025 Summer Transfer Thread. 😂

[Ghost7]

Been like that all summer. Pathetic.

[Devon Rover]

2 minutes ago, jim mk2 said:

"Rovers are pushing to make a breakthrough in their search for attacking reinforcements"

Translation: We've made inquiries but aren't getting anywhere because we won't pay the money

I've never known an organisation to be so keen to convince everyone of how hard they are "pushing" for things (acquisitions, contracts, etc, etc) to happen, whilst not actually delivering any of those things, then repeating the same thing, over and over. All whilst senior members of the organisation speak to the press about being "confused", or their standard working environment being "difficult" or "strange". Meanwhile their competitors just get on with actually making things happen. 

Bloody amateurs, the lot of them.

[Lancaster Rover]

If nobody else was signing players, the description of the market would stack up. But when Saturdays opponents who are under a transfer embargo can bring in (on paper) better signings than us then you have to question things. 

[lraC]

I sincerely hope the manager, does not experience the frustrations that JDT and Eustace did, with players apparently signed,, but then a mystery wayward E Mail or late E Mail, scuppers it.

It is only a difficult market, when you are searching in the bargain bucket, or do not have enough money to attract the right quality. All other teams, seem to be doing okay.

Edited 2 hours ago by lraC

[Exiled_Rover]

4 minutes ago, Lancaster Rover said:

If nobody else was signing players, the description of the market would stack up. But when Saturdays opponents who are under a transfer embargo can bring in (on paper) better signings than us then you have to question things. 

They'll be spending A LOT on wages for those free agents. 

And that, unfortunately, is the problem. We clearly don't have a pot to piss in - despite having billionaire owners. 

[Lancaster Rover]

3 minutes ago, Exiled_Rover said:

They'll be spending A LOT on wages for those free agents. 

And that, unfortunately, is the problem. We clearly don't have a pot to piss in - despite having billionaire owners. 

Oh I know that, which highlights how poor the 'package' is we're willing to offer, we can't even compete with fee free deals.

As ever the board have Champagne Taste but want to pay Brown Ale money, it was ever thus and to coin another well worn phrase, you pay peanuts....... you get monkeys

[Christopher]

2 hours ago, MarkBRFC said:

Clubs want paying for players, and players want standard Championship wages.

How dare they.

Does this mean we should accept the DCFC bid for Travis or risk having an unhappy player for 12 months?

[M_B]

48 minutes ago, bluebruce said:

I always want whatever is best for the club.

Are you a politician? 

[MarkBRFC]

5 minutes ago, Christopher said:

Does this mean we should accept the DCFC bid for Travis or risk having an unhappy player for 12 months?

Derby should pay what we want for the said player.

Like we should do to other clubs for there players instead of crying that everything is too hard and "strange".

[bluebruce]

1 minute ago, M_B said:

Are you a politician? 

No. Are you a windup?

[bluebruce]

2 minutes ago, MarkBRFC said:

Derby should pay what we want for the said player.

Like we should do to other clubs for there players instead of crying that everything is too hard and "strange".

If they can offer 'life changing' money to Travis, they can offer us a fair price for our captain. Or they can fuck off.

[lraC]

Imagine if Derby wait until deadline day, but then mess up the paperwork on Travis,

I don’t know of any other club doing that once, let alone twice, although to be honest, I maintain it was a smokescreen really. 

[Wing Wizard Windy Miller]

Funny how,despite insisting only one more player is being brought in, Ismael constantly talks in the plural about incomings.  

[MarkBRFC]

Just now, Wing Wizard Windy Miller said:

Funny how,despite insisting only one more player is being brought in, Ismael constantly talks in the plural about incomings.  

Because he knows folk are leaving.

[JHRover]

15 minutes ago, lraC said:

Imagine if Derby wait until deadline day, but then mess up the paperwork on Travis,

I don’t know of any other club doing that once, let alone twice, although to be honest, I maintain it was a smokescreen really. 

Absolutely... if anyone wanted an insight into the lengths and depths this regime will go to to arse cover and deflect the blame those two sorry, shameful recent episodes in our history are up there with the best of them.

We've had a very high turnover in players over the years and yet the only ones that face 'admin errors' are those that require the club to commit to substantial costs. Convenient. Another example of this club apparently facing 'issues' and 'difficulties' and 'strange things' that no other club ever comes up against. 

They are good at lying. I think most sensible people can work out there's a pattern here and it all leads back to the regime. 

They must think the fanbase is totally stupid. But then again with the views of some supporters and an ever compliant local media lining up to swallow and regurgitate whatever rubbish they serve up I can hardly blame them for trying. 

[RevidgeBlue]

4 hours ago, MarkBRFC said:

Might well be a "good man". Not that you would have any idea either way from a few posts on a message board.

He is 100% on X though and I do find his take of all players leaving being "rats and snakes" and everything this regime do is wonderful very strange though. Also disagreeing with everything the Coalition is trying to do.

So again, I do wonder who this chap really is.

Am I imagining things but up to and including JDT, wasn't unleaded very supportive of the Head Coach and extremely anti the regime and very critical of the way the recruitment department operated ? (Which I agreed with)

But ever since Eustace came in it seems that in unleaded's eyes, everything Eustace wanted to do was wrong and everything Gestede and Owen etc do or want to do is right?

Very odd. I actually thought someone had hacked his account at first but he has a pretty unique posting style so it does actually appear it is the same person.

[RevidgeBlue]

3 hours ago, MarkBRFC said:

Clubs want paying for players, and players want standard Championship wages.

How dare they.

100%

I do wish Jackson would stop writing spoon fed nonsense offered up to him by the Club. As I said last week - it really isn't helpful.

"Strange" market indeed. 

Hmmmphh.

[TommyRovers]

4 minutes ago, RevidgeBlue said:

100%

I do wish Jackson would stop writing spoon fed nonsense offered up to him by the Club. As I said last week - it really isn't helpful.

"Strange" market indeed. 

Hmmmphh.

Do you want him to lie about what the manager and club officials have said instead?

[RevidgeBlue]

9 minutes ago, TommyRovers said:

Do you want him to lie about what the manager and club officials have said instead?

No.

All he needs to say is "Vi gives an update on Rovers progress in the transfer market" And then let other people make their own mind up as to whether Vi is talking absolute tosh or not.

Not "Vi gives his thoughts of Rovers progress in what has been a difficult and challenging market" implying that he agrees with him and everyone should feel sympathy..

Why do you keep defending him? Is he a mate of yours?

Edited 43 minutes ago by RevidgeBlue

[TommyRovers]

3 minutes ago, RevidgeBlue said:

No.

All he needs to say is "Vi gives an update on Rovers progress in the transfer market"

Not "Vi gives his thoughts of Rovers progress in what has been a difficult and challenging market" implying that he agrees with him.

Why do you keep defending him? Is he a mate of yours?

You have a strange understanding of the job of a local journalist.

Besides, he is quoting the manager. He is not saying it himself.

Plenty of issues with the club, Elliott Jackson isn’t one of them.

Edited 43 minutes ago by TommyRovers

[RevidgeBlue]

1 minute ago, TommyRovers said:

You have a strange understanding of the job of a local journalist.

Plenty of issues with the club, Elliott Jackson isn’t one of them.

Also we've bought in zero attacking players since you had a good at me for complaining about the lack of numbers and quality in that area.

Just saying.

[Tomphil2]

5 hours ago, Exiled_Rover said:

Last season when we had a 6'5" CF.

Why didn't they tailor their play to his strengths then ?

Only guy under instruction to cross was Brittain looks of it.

We haven't had a crosser since Craig Conway, - Sorba Thomas and Ryan Giles could but ended up not doing and you have to ask yourself why.

Club blueprint from above.

[TommyRovers]

Just now, RevidgeBlue said:

Also we've bought in zero attacking players since you had a good at me for complaining about the lack of numbers and quality in that area.

Just saying.

Didn’t have a go at you for that. 

I joked that it was a silly comment about our squad being incomplete just a week or two into the window. All club squads are.

Silly whataboutism. Like I said, plenty to be angry about. The local journo is not one.

[jim mk2]

To be fair to Jackson and the LET the story has been reported and edited correctly. The "strange" in the headline is in quotes to show it is attributable and not a comment.

Jackson could of course do an opinion piece on Rovers' performance in the transfer window so far - and whether the club has been truthful or not. 

[SuperBrfc]

16 hours ago, M_B said:

I'm open minded about the approach by Gestede, I hope he succeeds, although I suppose success is different to different people.

It was Waggott out, now it's Gestede out, it wouldn't matter who replaced Gestede, it would be get them out, which is why I take any criticism from certain posters with a pinch of salt. I'm not on Facebook or Twitter either. 

As for club stuff, it's generally so bland, I hardly ever read it, unless we've actually signed someone . Why people scrutinise press conferences is beyond me, some of the Eustace stuff written on here in the early days was mental. 

So, I hope Gestede and Ismael know what they're doing and get it "right " , the recruitment team have got it all to do.  

I wish I could just focus on the football and forget the off field stuff. That's what most 'normal' fans of every other club do. I have not been able to do that for 15 years and truly miss the feeling. If you are able to do so, then fair play, I'm not knocking it. You save yourself a lot of anger and frustration.

However, that doesn't mask the reality. It isn't possible to just focus on the football here, IMO, because we are all constantly being let down by an off field circus. A repeating pattern. A pattern which always leads us back to square one. A pattern which keeps on pointing towards one camp. We all feel the effects of it, even if you just want to watch the football. Until this problem is fixed by removal, it is impossible to be a 'normal' fan again, personally speaking.

Rightly or wrongly, I view every appointment made here with caution because of what walked into the doors with these owners at the outset. Has that issue gone away entirely? There are indicators even up to this summer that suggest possibly not.

I don't want Gestede to fail. If you look back on my posts, you'll see me frequently say Gestede isn't the issue as I believe him to be a convenient shield for the real issue. However, since then, info has been shared which suggests he has fully embraced becoming the stooge of the real issue and is throwing his weight around. Therefore, he has to go along with his superior.

If I believed Gestede and Ismael could get us into the top 6 or deliver what we've all wanted, I'd be fine with seeing how it goes. Two problems though, IMO. Firstly, how likely does that look based on current events? It's not looking good. It's looking worse than ever, to be honest.

Secondly, any time we get near the top six and have a chance, whether it is incompetence or whatever above the manager, that opportunity is always squandered. I don't expect this to change until we have new owners and a new Board in place.

I know you mention alignment often and I wish it was genuinely a thing here. The last time we had real alignment was under John Williams.

Sadly, any notion of alignment under this joke regime is nothing but an illusion. There was said to be alignment under JDT/Broughton and with Eustace/Waggott. Look how that went both times.

IMO, what I think we have seen recently is 'alignment' to a point, until managers have wanted to go for the play off opportunity before them (like any normal manager would), and then somebody in the camp has turned at that crunch moment. Almost 'snake' like? Maybe. That's just my theory, but the end result is alignment is out the window and chaos ensues. We need to find out what throws this so called alignment off track.

I admit the Eustace point, as I was one of few who wanted him out based on his early press comments. I took his comments to be a dig at JDT and thought he was a Waggott yes man. I was wrong on both counts. What happened with Eustace and the way he left, showed us what the real issue is at this club. Which is exactly why I want these people out. When I say people, I don't include the manager in that.

Under normal ownership that cared about going up, I think Eustace and Waggott could have taken us up. I say that because those experienced players who did well for us last season were Waggott signings. He apparently forced the issue with Pune to get them in to prevent Eustace from walking. He had it in him to do the right thing, but likely did not have complete control on the ground here and that leads us back to the real issue. The guy who has control looks set to oversee another relegation. Just as he did in 2016/17.

I'm no fan of Waggott's, but wonder if he could have done more had the shadow man not been beside him having the final say most times.

The bit in bold reads like you think the fans who want x, y and z out are being irrational or unreasonable and will never be happy. I disagree. We have been consistent in wanting those people out because all of them have shown no intent to kick this club on.

All of them have been happy to play the development game in this Division and just avoid relegation. Even when presented with golden opportunities to change this (JDT, Eustace). All of them have lowered the standards and expectations at this club. All have been doing the bidding of Pasha and can rightly piss off. None of this is acceptable and nor should anybody EVER defend it under some fake notion of positivity and super fandom.

People define success differently, I agree. To some fans a mid table Championship finish is success, as they think this is us 'punching' (I will never subscribe to this).

To the hideous regime, 'success' is reducing costs for the owners, increasing player value and avoiding relegation.

For me and others who have never lost sight of the truth, success is returning Rovers back to the Premier League. Where these owners found us. Promotion. Nothing less will do. Nothing else is acceptable.

Pasha out. Venky's out.