RevidgeBlue Posted 5 hours ago Posted 5 hours ago 22 minutes ago, islander200 said: I'm sure Gestede said the same thing in the Allardyce podcast. Eddie put him under a bit more pressure with his questioning and he blurted out "My job is to make sure academy players develop so we can sell them"Β Going off both those podcasts he is an absolute clown." The fans should be happy we have a team to play on a Saturday and Tuesday night" Yes and since then of course Suhail let his views slip in the FF by saying spending doesn't necessarily guarantee success. ** So what Gestede said is probably basically correct. **Maybe it doesn't but not spending over an extended period of time is an absolutely 100% guaranteed way to fail. 2 Quote
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CambridgeRover Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago (edited) 16 minutes ago, RevidgeBlue said: Spending doesn't necessarily guarantee success. ** Nothing in football guarantees success but as you say a lot guarantees failures Edited 4 hours ago by CambridgeRover 1 Quote
simongarnerisgod Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago 26 minutes ago, RevidgeBlue said: Yes and since then of course Suhail let his views slip in the FF by saying spending doesn't necessarily guarantee success. ** no it`s does`nt, but not spending also puts you at risk of relegation,especially when other clubs in the division are indeed spending,this clown is supposed to be a "business man " is`nt he 1 Quote
M_B Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago 1 hour ago, aletheia said: Your sophistry is tiresome. It really isn't a difficult question to answer.Β Quote
M_B Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago 1 hour ago, islander200 said: What Is Gestedes idea of success here tho? Staying in the division? Hoping to hit the jackpot with a few bargain basement signings to make a few million profit to lessen the money required from the owners to keep the club running? To develop some players from the academy to sell at the earliest opportunity? Imo he isn't here to try help build a team that can get us promoted. Promotion is not on the agenda here. Broughton might not have been very good at his job but imoΒ he wanted the club to progress and wasn't just looking at saving the owners a few quidΒ It does depend on what your idea of success is, I'd say play offs, the question is how long they get.Β 1 Quote
M_B Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago 7 hours ago, bluebruce said: No. Are you a windup? Not at all, all I asked was would you like to see Gestede succeed ? I wasn't being smart, it's just that some never even gave him a chance right from the off, in fact he was getting grief before he'd even started. I'm certainly hoping he knows what he's doing football wise.Β Quote
chaddyrovers Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago 9 hours ago, roversfan99 said: Still not entirely sure what Ismael is trying to do. did you understand how the tactical plan on Saturday from Ismael?Β 4 Quote
Leonard Venkhater Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago 33 minutes ago, M_B said: Not at all, all I asked was would you like to see Gestede succeed ? I wasn't being smart, it's just that some never even gave him a chance right from the off, in fact he was getting grief before he'd even started. I'm certainly hoping he knows what he's doing football wise.Β He doesn't... 1 Quote
chaddyrovers Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago (edited) 7 hours ago, lraC said: I donβt know of any other club doing that once, let alone twice, although to be honest, I maintain it was a smokescreen really.Β didn't we do it when Appleton was here and he wanted to sign DJ Campbell and Jerome Thomas?Β 2 hours ago, islander200 said: What Is Gestedes idea of success here tho? Staying in the division? Hoping to hit the jackpot with a few bargain basement signings to make a few million profit to lessen the money required from the owners to keep the club running? To develop some players from the academy to sell at the earliest opportunity? Imo he isn't here to try help build a team that can get us promoted. Promotion is not on the agenda here. Broughton might not have been very good at his job but imoΒ he wanted the club to progress and wasn't just looking at saving the owners a few quidΒ Miller mentioned getting to the PL during his interview and that the plan under Gestede and Ismael.Β I think Ismael is Gestede's choice for the head coach job and they are aligned along with Adam Owen. People forget about Adam Owen and his range of contacts he hasΒ I also think Ismael wanted to push on this season and I don't think he expect Brittain and Travis to move on and I think he expect them to re-sign here long term. This hasn't happened for him but he isn't to blame and he has dealt with the situation with understand but telling the supporters what has gone on. hence why we seen his mention this season has a transition seasonΒ Edited 3 hours ago by chaddyrovers 3 Quote
bluebruce Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago 1 hour ago, M_B said: Not at all, all I asked was would you like to see Gestede succeed ? I wasn't being smart, it's just that some never even gave him a chance right from the off, in fact he was getting grief before he'd even started. I'm certainly hoping he knows what he's doing football wise.Β I told you I always want the best for the club. I answered you. It shouldn't need outwardly stating but if that means Gestede doing a good job with recruitment then hopefully he does a good job. If he does, he'll get no criticism from me for it. Theoretically I'd like every employee of the club to succeed. My only caveat would be sometimes it can be papering over the cracks and dragging out our purgatory with Venkys, but it's hard to know what if anything could get rid of them anyway. Gestede's appointment gained rightful criticism because he was completely unqualified for the job, especially at a club of this calibre. He also dropped us like a bad habit when he was a player, so that won't have helped, despite the club's bizarre attempts to paint him as some club legend. It's up to him to make all of that irrelevant by doing great work. The jury is still very much out on that for now, especially since the contract situation has deteriorated again since the Broughton days were swapped for the Gestede era. 5 Quote
roversfan99 Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago 56 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said: didn't we do it when Appleton was here and he wanted to sign DJ Campbell and Jerome Thomas?Β Miller mentioned getting to the PL during his interview and that the plan under Gestede and Ismael.Β I think Ismael is Gestede's choice for the head coach job and they are aligned along with Adam Owen. People forget about Adam Owen and his range of contacts he hasΒ I also think Ismael wanted to push on this season and I don't think he expect Brittain and Travis to move on and I think he expect them to re-sign here long term. This hasn't happened for him but he isn't to blame and he has dealt with the situation with understand but telling the supporters what has gone on. hence why we seen his mention this season has a transition seasonΒ Come on chaddy. Are the actions of this football club, one who cannot offer competitive wages to get any proven first team players to sign, befitting one that genuinely cares and is striving for promotion? You seem a bit paranoid about the alignment but Ismael seems more and more pissed off with each passing interview. Dont swallow the "transition season" rubbish. Its operation cut backs, results are secondary. New players will always say the stuff about pushing for Premier League etc. I do somewhat sympathise for Ismael as no one can possibly appreciate how rotten this club is until in on the inside. He is far from one of the major issues at the club, although to be honest I dont think hes a good manager. Maybe you disagree now. 2 Quote
ROVER_N_OUT1978 Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago Britt Assombalonga is still a free agent. Anyone take him? 2 Quote
Old Codger Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago (edited) 12 minutes ago, ROVER_N_OUT1978 said: Britt Assombalonga is still a free agent. Anyone take him? He knows where the onion bag is and has decent experience at this level. He is 32 mind, so it would only be a stocking filler, not the main present. But maybe he could coach some of our other 'strikers'.. Edited 1 hour ago by Old Codger Rovers, I miss my Rovers, they made me happy, when skies were grey. We never noticed, these zombies looming, please don't take My Rovers Away... 2 Quote
roverandout Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 1 hour ago, chaddyrovers said: didn't we do it when Appleton was here and he wanted to sign DJ Campbell and Jerome Thomas?Β Miller mentioned getting to the PL during his interview and that the plan under Gestede and Ismael.Β I think Ismael is Gestede's choice for the head coach job and they are aligned along with Adam Owen. People forget about Adam Owen and his range of contacts he hasΒ I also think Ismael wanted to push on this season and I don't think he expect Brittain and Travis to move on and I think he expect them to re-sign here long term. This hasn't happened for him but he isn't to blame and he has dealt with the situation with understand but telling the supporters what has gone on. hence why we seen his mention this season has a transition seasonΒ God you're naive 8 Quote
M_B Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 31 minutes ago, bluebruce said: I told you I always want the best for the club. I answered you. It shouldn't need outwardly stating but if that means Gestede doing a good job with recruitment then hopefully he does a good job. If he does, he'll get no criticism from me for it. Theoretically I'd like every employee of the club to succeed. My only caveat would be sometimes it can be papering over the cracks and dragging out our purgatory with Venkys, but it's hard to know what if anything could get rid of them anyway. Gestede's appointment gained rightful criticism because he was completely unqualified for the job, especially at a club of this calibre. He also dropped us like a bad habit when he was a player, so that won't have helped, despite the club's bizarre attempts to paint him as some club legend. It's up to him to make all of that irrelevant by doing great work. The jury is still very much out on that for now, especially since the contract situation has deteriorated again since the Broughton days were swapped for the Gestede era. Well, you gave a reply, butΒ you didn't actually answer the question. Yes or no would have done.Β Quote
ROVER_N_OUT1978 Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago I would ask is he better than what we already have and I think the answer is clear that he is and as you say OC he has decent experience at this level 1 Quote
simongarnerisgod Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 29 minutes ago, ROVER_N_OUT1978 said: Britt Assombalonga is still a free agent. Anyone take him? certainly more effective than what we have at the moment,id`e be delighted if he landed here Quote
SuperBrfc Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 33 minutes ago, ROVER_N_OUT1978 said: Britt Assombalonga is still a free agent. Anyone take him? Available on a free. Boro connections backstage. Maybe one to keep an eye out for. This could be one of those last minute signings, when other targets fall by the wayside. Thing is, he's probably still better than anything we currently have upfront, so would be an improvement on a free. I'm sure we were linked with him a good few years back too, but he was priced at Β£15m at the time. Quote
roversfan99 Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago Assombolonga has had 2 failed seasons abroad in Turkey (the latest in the second tier) after a failed brief spell at Watford, and is 32. Quote
roversfan99 Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago Yverdon Sport have played 3 games since their opener in which Baradji played, and he hasnt been involved in any of them. Quote
bluebruce Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 31 minutes ago, M_B said: Well, you gave a reply, butΒ you didn't actually answer the question. Yes or no would have done.Β If you can't read between the lines or interpret something beyond a mundane yes or no, then I can't help you. It was a clear yes. In fact it was a question that didn't even need asking. Obviously I want the person in charge of player recruitment at the club I love to recruit some good players. It would be weird if anyone didn't, and I'd suggest your paranoid implied assertion that some people do says more about you than other posters. I also do think you were trying to be smart despite your claim you weren't. 'Are you a politician' is obvious snark, and claiming you weren't being funny in saying that is actually, ironically, the kind of tactic a politician would employ in trying to weasel out of a misstep. Quote
M_B Posted 59 minutes ago Posted 59 minutes ago 6 minutes ago, bluebruce said: If you can't read between the lines or interpret something beyond a mundane yes or no, then I can't help you. It was a clear yes. In fact it was a question that didn't even need asking. Obviously I want the person in charge of player recruitment at the club I love to recruit some good players. It would be weird if anyone didn't, and I'd suggest your paranoid implied assertion that some people do says more about you than other posters. I also do think you were trying to be smart despite your claim you weren't. 'Are you a politician' is obvious snark, and claiming you weren't being funny in saying that is actually, ironically, the kind of tactic a politician would employ in trying to weasel out of a misstep. I wasn't being smart, you didn't answer the question.Β Your prerogative but you didn't. Your answer was to this question, do you want the best for the club? Obviously we all want what's best for the club. It was a simple question which only needed a simple answer. Β Quote
danger19_80 Posted 52 minutes ago Posted 52 minutes ago 29 minutes ago, roversfan99 said: Assombolonga has had 2 failed seasons abroad in Turkey (the latest in the second tier) after a failed brief spell at Watford, and is 32. Yeah he looks washed up unfortunately. Avoid. Quote
ben_the_beast Posted 48 minutes ago Posted 48 minutes ago 5 hours ago, DE. said: There can't be many clubs where sales have 0% impact on the transfer budget. It's a ludicrous statement unless the club is in deep financial peril and needs every penny to keep the lights on.Β It would beg the question for any sane club, what incentive is there to ever sell at all. Utterly ludicrous statement.Β 1 Quote
ageoftherover Posted 35 minutes ago Posted 35 minutes ago If I'm Ismael, having worked only at normal clubs, "strange and difficult" are probably words I'd use to describe a Rovers transfer window as well.Β Quote
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