2025 Summer Transfer Thread. 😂

[roversfan99]

2 minutes ago, islander200 said:

It isn't just that 

He was available for 18 million , it would not have been a secret and only Palace came in.I accept we would have got more but not 30 million and every time a young player makes a move its made out that its proof we would have got a similar fee for  Wharton 

Like earlier this summer the defender real Madrid signed from Bournemouth was used a Spanish international after earning plaudits for a strong season at the top level 

Dibling after some decent performances in the prem and others they are different circumstances 

I'm obviously gutted Wharton left so soon and I said we would get a bit more money but not 30 million like some think because Spurs happened to pay that for Gray

Whether I'm right or wrong it makes no difference anyway whether he was sold for a million or 100 million we know it wasn't going to go back into the team anyway so yeah be gutted about losing a talented home grown player a fan who was an exciting player to watch but I wouldn't be getting too upset over the fee if you think It could have been much higher.its been said a multiple time by gestede and Pasha it doesn't effect budget 

Take on board that it wouldnt have been reinvested anyway so its fairly moot and I also agree that you cant compare different players.

But my logic isnt based on other players. Its based on our weak negotiating position. In the summer, having played more games, without us being so desperate, he or indeed any player is worth more under those circumstances.

How much more, I dont know, but more.

[SuperBrfc]

If I remember rightly, there was a horse manure operation in Brunei which had Swiss, Italian and English noble men at its helm. There was supposed to be a documentary on it where they showed how they collected and shovelled huge piles of shit, but it didn't happen for some reason.

Sorry, I digress. The talk of Switzerland and Italy from earlier on bought that memory back to mind.

Back on topic, I wish we would sign more players from that region. It is an untapped market with potential gems to be found. We've seen how they have done with Schar, Rodriguez, Xhaka, Embolo in the not too distant past.

I guess there's still time for Rudy to surprise us over the next week as the window reaches a crescendo. To be fair, he is right. This is when it really gets exciting. In the final week of the window. Sad as it is, but I will be glued to this forum until the window shuts. I just know it. Bring on deadline day!

I like the look of Baradji, he has ability. However, I would have been happier if he was being added to what we already had. Not as a Travis replacement. That is taking a risk.

On a side note, Baradji and Mafoumbi have the same agent. Not that it matters, but this probably made it easier to sort out the ESC slot situation, I guess.

[RevidgeBlue]

42 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

Its good that Travis's replacement has signed already and here. Looks hope he is ready after the international break. Loan to buy is sensible move given what we know about why he failed a medical a few weeks ago. 

On Travis leaving, its a shame he is going but most people thought he would go this summer. Don't get why Derby but its his choice. Eustace factor I guess. 

Well, its got busy later in the day and Nixon will do a story on a winger on Sunday

who is turning on Travis? Didn't you think he would leave this summer given the Eustace links and he had 12 months left on his contract

Yes I did and people did ridiculed me. I think its a very smart move by Ismael but also given Cantwell trust and leadership of the head coach. 

And all is well in chaddyworld.

They could do absolutely anything and you'd either be happy with it or try to pass it off as normal.

On Cantwell, him getting the captaincy is right down near the bottom of the list of things we need to worry about but just because it's happened doesn't automatically make it a good thing.

I can't think of anyone less suitable personally but each to their own.

[M_B]

40 minutes ago, roversfan99 said:

If you cant see that the twitter account in question is someone on the inside, trying to manipulate fans against departing players and trying to make the club seem helpless in such situations, then I dunno what to say.

It is someone who has a 100% record in revealing news. For that, they must be right up the food chain. Whether its one of Gestede/Sufi/Owen or someone they are purposely feeding news to, I dont know.

The account aside from revealing incomings has been happy to repeatedly imply that Brittain and Travis have been unprofessional, have defended the club on contracts and claimed they were offered ages ago despite all of those players saying publically that they hadnt, and has got into spats with fans who have not swallowed the bullshit, even calling Glen Mullan a "doom merchant."

For someone so keen on strong communication, you surely not only can see that but recognise that its grossly unprofessional from the individual and the club to communicate like this from behind an anonymous twitter handle.

I did expect Travis to leave but only because of our pathetic inability to sort contracts out. I also knew that these issues would totally overshadow everything else. Its depressing to see another key player leave and replaced this time by a guy relegated from the Swiss league, on loan, who is injured.

For a club that doesn't care about it's fans, they don't half go the extra mile to make them feel better. 

[roversfan99]

Its a risk and I can see both sides. Maybe it will cause him to step up and grow up. He is a really important player for us. But he certainly doesnt show as a natural leader.

Tronstad would be the obvious option and I suspect would have been given it if he wasnt destined to also leave by next summer at the latest.

[roversfan99]

Just now, M_B said:

For a club that doesn't care about it's fans, they don't half go the extra mile to make them feel better. 

Im guessing that you dont think that the account is someone high up on the inside and it is just a remarkably accurate average joe who happens to both know everything and just happens to put a lovely spin on it at all to try and make the club seem like its coming up roses?

[Southside Rover]

I think on the topic of tall athletic players, it has something to do with the energy and press but also to win the ball more across the pitch and defend set pieces. Maybe even be a threat ourselves.

I like Baradji as a signing. Injury is a concern but the deal makes sense. I wouldnt turn on Travis, he's been a great servant and someone I've enjoyed watching and its hard to see him go but sometimes you need to try something different to realise the path to move forward. Baradji and Tavares both seem more mobile and athletic to not only put the tackles in and keep things tight but to also get us up the pitch. Travis and Tronstad have often been a wall and a great pairing but it does then limit us going forwards.

Did find it funny that Val gave a BBC interview about not wanting loans and an hour later we announce a loan signing...

[M_B]

1 minute ago, roversfan99 said:

Im guessing that you dont think that the account is someone high up on the inside and it is just a remarkably accurate average joe who happens to both know everything and just happens to put a lovely spin on it at all to try and make the club seem like its coming up roses?

To be honest, I haven't read it and I don't really care,I'm not on Twitter, Facebook or any other shite.

I said the other day, I don't really believe any of it from either side of the argument. Some of the stuff is quite literally unbelievable, yet people believe it because it suits their narrative. 

Whether there is unrest or not generally shows on the pitch. 

 

[RevidgeBlue]

4 minutes ago, Southside Rover said:

I think on the topic of tall athletic players, it has something to do with the energy and press but also to win the ball more across the pitch and defend set pieces. Maybe even be a threat ourselves.

I like Baradji as a signing. Injury is a concern but the deal makes sense. I wouldnt turn on Travis, he's been a great servant and someone I've enjoyed watching and its hard to see him go but sometimes you need to try something different to realise the path to move forward. Baradji and Tavares both seem more mobile and athletic to not only put the tackles in and keep things tight but to also get us up the pitch. Travis and Tronstad have often been a wall and a great pairing but it does then limit us going forwards.

Did find it funny that Val gave a BBC interview about not wanting loans and an hour later we announce a loan signing...

Please dont try and dress this up as some sort of footballing strategy, it's all being done on the basis of reducing cost.

[RTM08]

For me Baradji is the type of signing that would be fine if he was adding depth to bulk out a strong squad. Unfortunately instead we have let all of our experience go and expect players like this to come in and replace them.

Looks good in the highlight reel, but ultimately is another so-so player from a team relegated from a mid-strength at best league. In addition the injury issue could mean it's a complete waste of a signing anyway.

These are always going to be gambles and are targets purely because they're cheap - some will work, some won't. A lot of our fans are lapping this strategy up as some stroke of genius but for me this is arguably the worst squad we've had under Venky's.

[Southside Rover]

 

26 minutes ago, RevidgeBlue said:

Please dont try and dress this up as some sort of footballing strategy, it's all being done on the basis of reducing cost.

so you pay less for 6ft plus players you believe???

[Lancaster Rover]

A player from a relegated team in a league way below SPL in the coefficient, can’t say I’m excited. 

[sammie]

this guy on loan won’t sign permanently 

[RevidgeBlue]

20 minutes ago, Southside Rover said:

 

so you pay less for 6ft plus players you believe???

We're selling established Championship players and replacing them with cheap punts from obscure European Leagues.

If they're not good enough, their height is irrelevant whether they're five feet four or six feet four.  

[Glosrover]

2 hours ago, islander200 said:

Spurs could have done the Wharton deal in January instead of Palace tho?What was stopping them?

 

 

Spurs owners are almost as bad as Venkys……..(only buy cheap)

[Upside Down]

5 hours ago, islander200 said:

More interest I agree with but I honestly think it would have been clubs like Palace and other mid to lower teams bidding for him and iv said we would have got a bit more but not the 30 mill + that some on here seem convinced by

I think there was something about him that was putting the big boys off...there was an article about Newcastles interest but they didn't follow through with there interest as they had doubts over him.

 

 

 

 

Then that's where anyone with a brain would go the price is xx-million, pay it or fuck off.

Instead here they sold him to the first bidder that came along for half of his actual value and then reinvested 0% of the money generated from the sale.

So, not only was it a shit price, we also saw absolutely no benefit from it. The only people who got any kind of benefit were venkys who didn't need to send over as much to cover the losses.

Seriously, anyone trying to argue that £18 million was a good price for Adam Wharton seriously needs to reconfigure their grasp on reality. It was obvious in the Blackpool game that he was absolutely world class and would go straight to the top. Seriously 😎

Edited 3 hours ago by Upside Down

[RoversClitheroe]

2 hours ago, chaddyrovers said:

Don't get why Derby but its his choice. Eustace factor I guess. 

Are you okay?

It's because the club is toxic.

It's because we don't offer competitive wages.

Oh yeah purely down to Eustace factor. Fucking hell

[RoversClitheroe]

39 minutes ago, sammie said:

this guy on loan won’t sign permanently 

I don't think we've ever turned a loan with a view to buy into an actual buy? Under Venkys.

[roversfan99]

Just now, RoversClitheroe said:

I don't think we've ever turned a loan with a view to buy into an actual buy? Under Venkys.

Tom Cairney I think? Might be wrong but think it was a loan that turned into a buy.

Majority of loans are ones the parent club are just developing so there isnt an option.

[TruRover]

21 minutes ago, RoversClitheroe said:

I don't think we've ever turned a loan with a view to buy into an actual buy? Under Venkys.

Rudy Gestede lol

[chaddyrovers]

32 minutes ago, roversfan99 said:

Tom Cairney I think? Might be wrong but think it was a loan that turned into a buy.

Majority of loans are ones the parent club are just developing so there isnt an option.

Cairney and Gestede, 

[Mike E]

2 hours ago, alexanders said:

He wants to find players similar to himself. He is 6 4

Must mean the signings are all clueless twats.

[JHRover]

Cantwell is getting the captaincy partly because he's one of the few remaining experienced players that have a clue about the Championship and partly because 'they' know that this is one way of injecting additional value into him ahead of January/Summer 2026 when 'they' turn their attentions on the next round of sales of which he will be top of the list once Hyam and Tronstad have been dealt with.

I suspect Ismael has had zero choice in this matter, it has been imposed on him from upstairs.

[chaddyrovers]

5 minutes ago, JHRover said:

I suspect Ismael has had zero choice in this matter, it has been imposed on him from upstairs.

He told the media why Cantwell was appointed captain today or dont you believe him

Edited 4 hours ago by chaddyrovers

[JHRover]

5 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

He told the media why Cantwell was appointed captain today or dont you believe him

No I don't. Were you born yesterday?