Leonard Venkhater Posted yesterday at 09:29 Posted yesterday at 09:29 3 hours ago, KentExile said: Specifically regarding the last line in your post that I have marked in bold Never mind why has the wage cap not been increased, It looks very much as though the wage cap has been reduced and is now below what some of these players are currently on (or at least below what they were on before they left and found new clubs who would pay what they are worth), however, they were offered terms equal to their current contracts on the long shot that they may accept, which would have been seen as an unexpected coup (at least by Pasha, Gestede et al) Not sure I have explained myself properly there, but for example, if Hyam/Brittain/Travis were on circa £10K-£15K/week, and the wage cap is now £10K/week, then whilst all new signings have that £10K/week cap, they are willing to extend our "star performers" on their current terms (but only for a year) It all screams short termism, and the 1 year extensions to our (former) higher earners were them attempting to cover themselves financially as they know where this is likely to end (relegation in the near future if not this season) Agreed. I can't help wondering if there is a deliberate functionality in the actual churn produced. Who gains etc? Quote
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KentExile Posted yesterday at 09:35 Posted yesterday at 09:35 4 minutes ago, Leonard Venkhater said: Agreed. I can't help wondering if there is a deliberate functionality in the actual churn produced. Who gains etc? I fully expect the next set of accounts to show that the overall wages paid are inexplicably the same as the last god knows how many years, which would then point squarely in the direction of certain non playing members of staff 6 1 Quote
Tomphil2 Posted yesterday at 10:13 Posted yesterday at 10:13 37 minutes ago, KentExile said: I fully expect the next set of accounts to show that the overall wages paid are inexplicably the same as the last god knows how many years, which would then point squarely in the direction of certain non playing members of staff Surely they couldn't be diverting wages from the football squad into the non playing staff whilst keeping the overall costs the same ? Could they ....... 1 2 Quote
KentExile Posted yesterday at 10:15 Posted yesterday at 10:15 (edited) 18 minutes ago, Tomphil2 said: Surely they couldn't be diverting wages from the football squad into the non playing staff whilst keeping the overall costs the same ? Could they ....... The wage bill stated in the accounts staying roughly the same over the past 5 years (£25.5M give or take £200K apart from the 21/22 season when it was £24.3M), despite obvious cuts to the playing staff would indicate that something is not as it seems Edited yesterday at 10:32 by KentExile 6 Quote
Tomphil2 Posted yesterday at 10:48 Posted yesterday at 10:48 Iv'e often wondered how many advisers and consultants are on the payroll. 2 1 Quote
Leonard Venkhater Posted yesterday at 11:17 Posted yesterday at 11:17 (edited) On 09/09/2025 at 19:46, B16Rover said: Just a quick one, of the other 23 clubs in this league - are we the only doing YouTube videos justifying the summer? “What's that smell in this room? Didn't you notice it, Brick? Didn't you notice a powerful and obnoxious odor of mendacity in this room? There ain't nothin' more powerful than the odor of mendacity. You can smell it. It smells like death. Tennessee Williams Edited yesterday at 11:19 by Leonard Venkhater 4 Quote
RoyWegerlesLeftToe Posted yesterday at 13:04 Posted yesterday at 13:04 2 hours ago, KentExile said: The wage bill stated in the accounts staying roughly the same over the past 5 years (£25.5M give or take £200K apart from the 21/22 season when it was £24.3M), despite obvious cuts to the playing staff would indicate that something is not as it seems There is inflation to think about. But I get your point. Quote
Exiled_Rover Posted yesterday at 13:33 Posted yesterday at 13:33 4 hours ago, Leonard Venkhater said: Agreed. I can't help wondering if there is a deliberate functionality in the actual churn produced. Who gains etc? We gain. Brittain, Hyam and Travis were going to walk for free in the summer. Quote
Popular Post JHRover Posted yesterday at 13:42 Popular Post Posted yesterday at 13:42 The club engineered the Hyam, Brittain and Travis situations in the same way they have engineered the Tronstad one - they made no serious efforts to keep any of them. Firstly they stubbornly refused to even discuss new terms when the players were excelling last season, even when Eustace threatened and eventually did walk out over it, and then when they did get around to 'discussing' new terms (which is a stretch, I suspect there was very little negotiation or discussion) it is clear they were offering appalling terms to such players to the extent I've seen moves to Wrexham and Derby described as 'life changing'. Anyone associated with Blackburn Rovers accepting this should be ashamed of themselves. So they certainly aren't going to get a shred of credit or acceptance on my part that having deliberately allowed the contract situation to develop that they then hurriedly cash in close to deadline day to eke out a few million rather than nothing. Again, if they had dealt with the contracts appropriately and interest had materialised we could have commanded a far better fee or simply rejected it with no serious consequence. 10 Quote
chaddyrovers Posted yesterday at 14:15 Posted yesterday at 14:15 15 hours ago, BRFC. said: We’ve made £50M from player sales in the last 20 months. Sick of this “we can’t afford” nonsense, we’ll continue to see more players leave and hear “how can we compete with the Bolton and Plymouth’s of this world” You think I don't know how much money we spend on signings and how much we have made from signings? really! 14 hours ago, JHRover said: We've brought in almost £55 million in player sales since 2021. Why can we 'not afford' to pay our best players as much as or more than Wrexham, Derby or Middlesbrough? Why could we not have instigated contract negotiations earlier than May/June? (If they ever actually happened, which I don't believe). You're getting mixed up again. Venky/henchman choices are not the same as what we can afford ad could do if we wanted and they allowed it. If they allowed us to spend the money we brought in we could have offered these players the going rate. They chose not to allow this. It is their decision, and the consequences are on their heads. It isn't bad weather, covid, FFP, small crowds, bad luck, location or any other ridiculous excuse you and others want to hide behind. It is Venkys and their mates. Enjoy. Yes thanks JH, I do know how much Rovers have bought in from players sales. Some of that money has been used to cover the losses of the club and some have been used to buy players like this summer. 1 Quote
chaddyrovers Posted yesterday at 14:19 Posted yesterday at 14:19 4 hours ago, roversfan99 said: Also @chaddyrovers was there any point in the interviews whereby you felt that they were not telling the truth, spinning the situation or any points where you felt that further questions were required? I asked you a number of questions yesterday yet your reply was this "You would literally defend pretty much anything the club do, wouldnt you?" Yet now you expect me to answer your questions but you completely ignored my, I don't think this so 1 Quote
roversfan99 Posted yesterday at 14:53 Posted yesterday at 14:53 Ill take that as no, you just take everything they say at face value. Based on your general posting, its a fair assumption. 2 Quote
chaddyrovers Posted yesterday at 15:02 Posted yesterday at 15:02 5 minutes ago, roversfan99 said: Ill take that as no, you just take everything they say at face value. Based on your general posting, its a fair assumption. take it which ever way you want, You are good at expecting myself and others to answers your questions, its a shame that you don't have the same courtesy do the same when asked questions, you avoid them, and just moan and complain 1 Quote
aletheia Posted yesterday at 16:38 Posted yesterday at 16:38 (edited) If we don’t improve on 7th, the transfer window and performance of the senior management has been a failure. Close the thread.. 🙂 Edited yesterday at 16:48 by aletheia 4 Quote
BRFC. Posted yesterday at 16:45 Posted yesterday at 16:45 Nice win an all but my opinion will not change, we’re still in trouble this season we needed something today because we’ve got some top teams in the next few weeks 1 Quote
B16Rover Posted 21 hours ago Posted 21 hours ago It obviously means nothing but our 3 best rated players on the new FIFA are Tronstad, Cantwell and Hedges in that order Quote
rigger Posted 20 hours ago Posted 20 hours ago (edited) Hedges has been rubbish in previous seasons, but this season he has upped his game. I doubt he will ever be a good forward, but if he uses his abilities he may make a decent championship player, slightly deeper. Edited 20 hours ago by rigger Quote
davulsukur Posted 20 hours ago Posted 20 hours ago 6 hours ago, JHRover said: The club engineered the Hyam, Brittain and Travis situations in the same way they have engineered the Tronstad one - they made no serious efforts to keep any of them. Firstly they stubbornly refused to even discuss new terms when the players were excelling last season, even when Eustace threatened and eventually did walk out over it, and then when they did get around to 'discussing' new terms (which is a stretch, I suspect there was very little negotiation or discussion) it is clear they were offering appalling terms to such players to the extent I've seen moves to Wrexham and Derby described as 'life changing'. Anyone associated with Blackburn Rovers accepting this should be ashamed of themselves. So they certainly aren't going to get a shred of credit or acceptance on my part that having deliberately allowed the contract situation to develop that they then hurriedly cash in close to deadline day to eke out a few million rather than nothing. Again, if they had dealt with the contracts appropriately and interest had materialised we could have commanded a far better fee or simply rejected it with no serious consequence. At least the club have now finally admitted the contract offers weren't great for those players. I'd have to watch it again but the interview with BBC Lancs sport he said there was a payrise on offer for Brittain but Travis and Hyam were just offered a 1 year extension to their current terms. So no real effort made to keep our club captain, or our CB who played every minute of last season. 3 1 Quote
Tyrone Shoelaces Posted 20 hours ago Posted 20 hours ago 7 minutes ago, rigger said: Hedges has been rubbish in previous seasons, but this season he has upped his game. I doubt he will ever be a good forward, but if he uses his abilities he may make a decent championship player, slightly deeper. He’s being played in the role that suits him best. Playing him out on the right reminds me of of the time Mowbray had Giles playing out there. 1 Quote
M_B Posted 20 hours ago Posted 20 hours ago 3 minutes ago, davulsukur said: At least the club have now finally admitted the contract offers weren't great for those players. I'd have to watch it again but the interview with BBC Lancs sport he said there was a payrise on offer for Brittain but Travis and Hyam were just offered a 1 year extension to their current terms. So no real effort made to keep our club captain, or our CB who played every minute of last season. How much were they on? I'd need to know that before I decided whether or not they had earned a rise. 1 1 Quote
roverblue Posted 19 hours ago Posted 19 hours ago 9 hours ago, RoyWegerlesLeftToe said: There is inflation to think about. But I get your point. On the footballing side if we sign a contract for a player at 10k a week for 5 years does inflation come into play? Sorry if a daft question I just expected that was it for the 5 years Quote
47er Posted 19 hours ago Posted 19 hours ago 1 hour ago, M_B said: How much were they on? I'd need to know that before I decided whether or not they had earned a rise. Obviously worth more to the clubs that signed them and that's all you need to know. Quote
47er Posted 19 hours ago Posted 19 hours ago 5 hours ago, BRFC. said: Nice win an all but my opinion will not change, we’re still in trouble this season we needed something today because we’ve got some top teams in the next few weeks We'll be in deep trouble the minute that Wharton and Carter get injured and nothing is more predictable than that. 2 Quote
Upside Down Posted 12 hours ago Author Posted 12 hours ago 15 hours ago, JHRover said: The club engineered the Hyam, Brittain and Travis situations in the same way they have engineered the Tronstad one - they made no serious efforts to keep any of them. Firstly they stubbornly refused to even discuss new terms when the players were excelling last season, even when Eustace threatened and eventually did walk out over it, and then when they did get around to 'discussing' new terms (which is a stretch, I suspect there was very little negotiation or discussion) it is clear they were offering appalling terms to such players to the extent I've seen moves to Wrexham and Derby described as 'life changing'. Anyone associated with Blackburn Rovers accepting this should be ashamed of themselves. So they certainly aren't going to get a shred of credit or acceptance on my part that having deliberately allowed the contract situation to develop that they then hurriedly cash in close to deadline day to eke out a few million rather than nothing. Again, if they had dealt with the contracts appropriately and interest had materialised we could have commanded a far better fee or simply rejected it with no serious consequence. It's almost as though you've been paying attention to what's happening right in front of your face and you're not a complete fucking brain dead imbecile. A shame that others can't see what happening and just parrot club propaganda because they have absolutely no ability to form a thought of their own. 2 Quote
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