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simongarnerisgod Posted Saturday at 14:38 Posted Saturday at 14:38 i`ve got expectations that tyjon will get a fair bit of first team action this season,it`s time for him to step up imo 3 Quote
Hasta Posted Saturday at 14:41 Posted Saturday at 14:41 2 minutes ago, simongarnerisgod said: i`ve got expectations that tyjon will get a fair bit of first team action this season,it`s time for him to step up imo If he’s genuinely good then the pathway is open. 2 Quote
Goozburger Posted Saturday at 14:44 Posted Saturday at 14:44 4 minutes ago, simongarnerisgod said: i`ve got expectations that tyjon will get a fair bit of first team action this season,it`s time for him to step up imo Time to step up at 17 years old? 4 Quote
Exiled_Rover Posted Saturday at 14:45 Posted Saturday at 14:45 1 minute ago, Goozburger said: Time to step up at 17 years old? If teams are offering £1m sight unseen at 17 years old then yeah. Quote
Tomphil2 Posted Saturday at 14:47 Posted Saturday at 14:47 We paid 6.5 million for Brereton and it looked like he'd only just stepped up. Football is an insane industry. 1 Quote
Goozburger Posted Saturday at 14:47 Posted Saturday at 14:47 1 minute ago, Exiled_Rover said: If teams are offering £1m sight unseen at 17 years old then yeah. Aren't they offering £1m because of his potential rather than what he can do right now? Saying it's time for a 17-year old to step up to anything is laughable in my opinion. 4 Quote
simongarnerisgod Posted Saturday at 14:49 Posted Saturday at 14:49 4 minutes ago, Goozburger said: Time to step up at 17 years old? if your good enough then your old enough 3 Quote
M_B Posted Saturday at 14:53 Posted Saturday at 14:53 4 minutes ago, BankEnd Rover said: How is De Neve playing? OK, looks to have a good delivery, been on the set pieces. Quote
AspRover Posted Saturday at 14:53 Posted Saturday at 14:53 Do we know whether it's Ohashi at 9 and Tyjon at 10 or the other way around? Anyone there confirm? I've always sort of thought that deeper in a front 2 might be Ohashi's best position rather than leading the line. 1 Quote
SIMON GARNERS 194 Posted Saturday at 14:54 Posted Saturday at 14:54 5 minutes ago, simongarnerisgod said: if your good enough then your old enough Rooney was. 1 Quote
Forever Blue Posted Saturday at 14:55 Posted Saturday at 14:55 1 minute ago, AspRover said: Do we know whether it's Ohashi at 9 and Tyjon at 10 or the other way around? Anyone there confirm? I've always sort of thought that deeper in a front 2 might be Ohashi's best position rather than leading the line. Tyjon at 10 according to Jackson Quote
Forever Blue Posted Saturday at 14:56 Posted Saturday at 14:56 (edited) 2 minutes ago, SIMON GARNERS 194 said: Rooney was. Can you name many more out of the thousands that have played the game? Players like Rooney are the exception Edited Saturday at 14:57 by Forever Blue 2 Quote
simongarnerisgod Posted Saturday at 14:57 Posted Saturday at 14:57 Just now, SIMON GARNERS 194 said: Rooney was. you can`t keep wrapping younger players up in cotton wool,continually playing them in the u21`s,that does`nt prepare you for first team action,ease tyjon in with 1/2 hour in homes games and if he impresses give him longer 3 Quote
Goozburger Posted Saturday at 14:58 Posted Saturday at 14:58 6 minutes ago, simongarnerisgod said: if your good enough then your old enough Yes, but that's not even half of the story. Were Wharton, Dunn, or Duff good enough at 17? The answer is no. They weren't ready for first team football until after 18, and they were our best academy products of all time. Surely you're not suggesting we get rid of Tyjon if he doesn't "step up" to the first team this season. We all know how football works when it comes to big clubs poaching younger players, even when it's not clear that they'll fulfil their potential. Just because a Champions League club is prepared to pay £1m for him, which is loose change down the back of the sofa for Arsenal, it doesn't mean he's got to step up now or... or what? 1 1 Quote
simongarnerisgod Posted Saturday at 15:01 Posted Saturday at 15:01 Just now, Goozburger said: Yes, but that's not even half of the story. Were Wharton, Dunn, or Duff good enough at 17? The answer is no. They weren't ready for first team football until after 18, and they were our best academy products of all time. Surely you're not suggesting we get rid of Tyjon if he doesn't "step up" to the first team this season. We all know how football works when it comes to big clubs poaching younger players, even when it's not clear that they'll fulfil their potential. Just because a Champions League club is prepared to pay £1m for him, which is loose change down the back of the sofa for Arsenal, it doesn't mean he's got to step up now or... or what? look,.you never know if they are good enough till they get a chance,phil jones was languising in the stiffs until he got a shot at first team action,that went quite well Quote
Glosrover Posted Saturday at 15:02 Posted Saturday at 15:02 4 minutes ago, Forever Blue said: Can you name many more out of the thousands that have played the game? Players like Rooney are the exception Shearer was playing in Soton first team at 16 wasn’t he?? Quote
Goozburger Posted Saturday at 15:03 Posted Saturday at 15:03 (edited) 2 minutes ago, simongarnerisgod said: look,.you never know if they are good enough till they get a chance,phil jones was languising in the stiffs until he got a shot at first team action,that went quite well Phil Jones was languishing "in the stiffs"? He was a star in the U21s at the time and a clear breakthrough prospect. So is Tyjon, actually, but what makes you think a 17 year old "must step up"? So I ask the question to you, step up, or what? Sell him because he's not good enough when he's not even a grown adult? Edited Saturday at 15:04 by Goozburger Quote
simongarnerisgod Posted Saturday at 15:06 Posted Saturday at 15:06 Just now, Goozburger said: Phil Jones was languishing "in the stiffs"? He was a star in the U21s at the time and a clear breakthrough prospect. So is Tyjon, actually, but what on Earth makes you think a 17 year old "must step up". So I ask the question to you, step up, or what? Sell him? ffs i only suggested that he should get some first team action this season,not lead the line for 5 months,if you can`t take someone else opinion then a public forum is`nt for you,go and sit in the shade with some cold lemonade 1 Quote
roverandout Posted Saturday at 15:06 Posted Saturday at 15:06 9 minutes ago, Forever Blue said: Can you name many more out of the thousands that have played the game? Players like Rooney are the exception Obvious one. Yamal Quote
Goozburger Posted Saturday at 15:07 Posted Saturday at 15:07 Just now, simongarnerisgod said: ffs i only suggested that he should get some first team action this season,not lead the line for 5 months,if you can`t take someone else opinion then a public forum is`nt for you,go and sit in the shade with some cold lemonade You said it's "time for Tyjon to step up". I'm asking you why. Never mind. Quote
AspRover Posted Saturday at 15:10 Posted Saturday at 15:10 It's time for Tyjon to step up... for us, not for him. He's got all the time in the world, the squad needs first team bodies! Quote
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