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It doesn't make any sense. It is in no way fair on Rovers and is completely bias towards Ipswich given the circumstances.

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Posted
1 hour ago, rovers11 said:

If it was the other way round, I suspect that may have been the decision. The bigger clubs, if you can call Ipswich that, have more power.

Im not buying this idea that we have been hard done by because of the club we are, as if Ipswich hold power as if they are a massive club who can swing favours from the FA.

Totally get why people are frustrated because its a shit situation. But this decision would have been made either way and we dont need a woe is me act. This tends to be how similar situations have been dealt with in the past.

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21 minutes ago, roversfan99 said:

Im not buying this idea that we have been hard done by because of the club we are, as if Ipswich hold power as if they are a massive club who can swing favours from the FA.

Totally get why people are frustrated because its a shit situation. But this decision would have been made either way and we dont need a woe is me act. This tends to be how similar situations have been dealt with in the past.

There is no comparable. They have ultimate flexibility to consider circumstances and they should be prioritising fairness and transparency. The decision and EFL have been found sadly lacking.

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6 hours ago, Herbie6590 said:

Suspect that the rationale was along the lines that there was enough time left & a close enough scoreline to make the final outcome sufficiently uncertain. Frankly I agree with that logic...if that's what they used...😆

Well of course that is true. But replaying the whole game makes the outcome even less certain than it was at the point the game was abandoned! It isn’t logic!

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Posted (edited)
2 hours ago, chaddyrovers said:

McKenna and Ipswich got exactly what they wanted from the game being called out. 

The game should have been restarted from 80 mins. Fairiest thing to do. 

Would have been interesting had Ipswich been 1-0 up and us down to 10 men.

Would they have been so keen to come off the pitch and support the referee’s and subsequent EFL’s decision? 

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Posted
12 minutes ago, Penwortham Blue said:

There is no comparable. They have ultimate flexibility to consider circumstances and they should be prioritising fairness and transparency. The decision and EFL have been found sadly lacking.

My point is that they havent made the decision to spite our club or to favour Ipswich. Or to appease McKenna.

Historical cases have in the main had the same outcome. You could argue that the precedent is flawed because each case was different in terms of the timing of the abandonment and the state of the game, and its the easy option. But I dont think this idea that they hate us or that it would have been different if the score was the other way round is anything other than unfounded bitterness and frustration manifesting into unreasonable conclusions.

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Posted
2 hours ago, ... said:

Need a full house full intimidation mode and grant them 500 seats.

what's to stop the club not giving them any tickets for the replay?

it's bad enough that they were given 4000 for this one. 

Posted
8 minutes ago, barry_ said:

what's to stop the club not giving them any tickets for the replay?

it's bad enough that they were given 4000 for this one. 

The rules. The minimum they can be given is 2,000.

Posted
2 hours ago, simongarnerisgod said:

**** ipswich and the efl,make them wait till april,i take it both sides have to mutually agree on the date,lets be as arkward as possible,they`ve done us up like a kipper,so lets reciprocate

I believe if we can't come to an agreement on the date, the EFL decide for us - and we have three open midweek slots before Christmas.

Posted
5 hours ago, wilsdenrover said:

If our ground is inadequate (and I’m not saying it isn’t) shouldn’t the EFL be insisting we remedy this?

Something, something, fit and proper owners. 

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Posted
11 minutes ago, bluebruce said:

The rules. The minimum they can be given is 2,000.

if There's 4000 wanting to come Rovers will always make them available. Looks like our attendances will be up this year because of well-supported away fans. Does the club care? One;y about the money.

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One surprising aspect of this whole sorry saga is what a shocking bunch Ipswich fans are. I've known a few over the years and they've always seemed decent grounded folk. Years ago when Rovers and Ipswich were in the PL they were always a decent humble bunch. So I was happy when they got promoted last year and hoped they'd stay up.

A year in the PL has turned them into Man Utd fans from the 90's but without the trophy cabinet to back it up. 

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Pretty obvious watching the EFL highlights the there was widespread rain that day but other clubs played on without difficulty.

 

Quite clear that Ewood has a particular problem which the club has ignored and just hoped for the  best.

That could cost us 3 valuable points this season and who knows how important that could be?

Rovers should be announcing that its calling in experts to engineer a lasting solution to a long-standing problem but the club is silent on this matter thus far.

Going to continue flying by the seat of your pants are we?

One thing is for sure, we won't get away with it next time we are the only club who can't complete a fixture.

Fix now or get big fines?

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It is what it is fellas!  Wasting your time bleating about the rights on wrongs on here as nowt will change. 

How about we turn our sour attitudes into a positive one and beat the tractor boys in the rearranged fixture. Most on here seem to think we will get beat. On what evidence? 

From my perspective, I've yet to see a stand out team. May be Norwich but they are a one man team in Sergeant. 

Christ almighty.. Get some perspective and grow up. It is what it is. 

Posted
3 minutes ago, booth said:

One surprising aspect of this whole sorry saga is what a shocking bunch Ipswich fans are. I've known a few over the years and they've always seemed decent grounded folk. Years ago when Rovers and Ipswich were in the PL they were always a decent humble bunch. So I was happy when they got promoted last year and hoped they'd stay up.

A year in the PL has turned them into Man Utd fans from the 90's but without the trophy cabinet to back it up. 

Nonsense. All because of an abandoned fixture. 

They may have some numpties posting twaddle on their forum but in general they are a good bunch. 

Nothing to see here. 

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Just now, Aqualung said:

Nonsense. All because of an abandoned fixture. 

They may have some numpties posting twaddle on their forum but in general they are a good bunch. 

Nothing to see here. 

They are populating every post on the Rovers Facebook page.

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1 hour ago, Uddersfelt Blue said:

Would have been interesting had Ipswich been 1-0 up and us down to 10 men.

Would they have been so keen to come off the pitch and support the referee’s and subsequent EFL’s decision? 

Exactly my point from day 1. 

1 hour ago, roversfan99 said:

My point is that they havent made the decision to spite our club or to favour Ipswich. Or to appease McKenna.

Historical cases have in the main had the same outcome. You could argue that the precedent is flawed because each case was different in terms of the timing of the abandonment and the state of the game, and its the easy option. But I dont think this idea that they hate us or that it would have been different if the score was the other way round is anything other than unfounded bitterness and frustration manifesting into unreasonable conclusions.

What other historical cases are like ours? 1 nil up and vs 10 men plus 10 minutes left

Posted
29 minutes ago, booth said:

They are populating every post on the Rovers Facebook page.

So what! 

Rise above it. Hardly comparable to the loathsome manure fans. 

Posted
54 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

Exactly my point from day 1. 

What other historical cases are like ours? 1 nil up and vs 10 men plus 10 minutes left

Obviously none are exactly the same. You wont get 2 identical cases, only similar ones.

Rotherham v Cardiff in 2023 and Leyton Orient in 2023 were both 1 nil, one was abandoned before and one after the time elapsed in our game. Without a red card.

My point was that you can question the precedent used in terms of direct comparability. But this game being replayed is not down to some sort of agenda against Rovers, its nothing to do with anything anyone of an Ipswich persuasion has done. Theyve just followed the same treatment as in other abandoned games, even if they arent exactly the same.

Whether its fair enough, thats a different question. Ultimately there is no way to resolve this in a truly fair and accurate way, the game was correctly abandoned and that obviously leaves a huge problem. But its not a choice made because anyone doesnt like Rovers.

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3 hours ago, Uddersfelt Blue said:

Would have been interesting had Ipswich been 1-0 up and us down to 10 men.

Would they have been so keen to come off the pitch and support the referee’s and subsequent EFL’s decision? 

No, obviously any team is always going to lobby for whichever outcome suits them best. You can't blame Ipswich for that.

However you'd hope the EFL blessed by absolute discretion within their guidelines would take on board the representations from each Club, but ultimately arrive at the fairest overall solution in any given case.

Which obviously hasn't happened here.

I bet if you sent a survey out to the 72 Championship Clubs asking a neutral question about what should happen in a hypothetical situation similar to Saturday's, not one would say there should be a full replay under completely different conditions to the remainder of the original game.

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Posted
39 minutes ago, roversfan99 said:

Obviously none are exactly the same. You wont get 2 identical cases, only similar ones.

Rotherham v Cardiff in 2023 and Leyton Orient in 2023 were both 1 nil, one was abandoned before and one after the time elapsed in our game. Without a red card.

My point was that you can question the precedent used in terms of direct comparability. But this game being replayed is not down to some sort of agenda against Rovers, its nothing to do with anything anyone of an Ipswich persuasion has done. Theyve just followed the same treatment as in other abandoned games, even if they arent exactly the same.

Whether its fair enough, thats a different question. Ultimately there is no way to resolve this in a truly fair and accurate way, the game was correctly abandoned and that obviously leaves a huge problem. But its not a choice made because anyone doesnt like Rovers.

So not the same situation as us. Thats fair. The EFL could have set a new precedent here. Bottled it has I knew they would

Posted
1 hour ago, Aqualung said:

So what! 

Rise above it. Hardly comparable to the loathsome manure fans. 


I'm not sure what rise above it means in this context as I'm not fucking grieving over it. I was just pointing out a strangeness.

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The big issue is that the law is patently poorly written, and by leaving it to a committee, you are leaving it open to a subjective judgment.

Two things need to happen in the future. A much more detailed law about abandoned games needs to be written in terms of score, reason, timing, and indeed quality of the pitch.

Secondly, we need to fix our pitch. 

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Posted
5 hours ago, 47er said:

Pretty obvious watching the EFL highlights the there was widespread rain that day but other clubs played on without difficulty.

 

Quite clear that Ewood has a particular problem which the club has ignored and just hoped for the  best.

That could cost us 3 valuable points this season and who knows how important that could be?

Rovers should be announcing that its calling in experts to engineer a lasting solution to a long-standing problem but the club is silent on this matter thus far.

Going to continue flying by the seat of your pants are we?

One thing is for sure, we won't get away with it next time we are the only club who can't complete a fixture.

Fix now or get big fines?

Well its pretty concerning that it's only September and we've already fallen victim to the rain.

Granted it pissed down a LOT that afternoon but there's bound to be nervousness now every time it rains when we're at home. Away fans will look on anxiously before travelling depending on the forecast. It shouldn't really be like this, but it is, and there's no solution in sight.

Derby must be breathing a sigh of relief though as large elements of our fans are now directing hatred towards Ipswich instead....you'd think they'd left a tap on somewhere.

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