simongarnerisgod Posted 15 hours ago Posted 15 hours ago 3 minutes ago, Tomphil2 said: Whether we go down or not. if we somehow manage to stay up i can`t bring myself to think about the recruitement over the summer😷 relegation means a fire sale and the chance for the academy lads,the ones at the back look ok imo,atcheson in particular has looked very accomplished while pratt has been very steady as well 1 Quote
Exiled_Rover Posted 15 hours ago Posted 15 hours ago 2 minutes ago, simongarnerisgod said: if we somehow manage to stay up i can`t bring myself to think about the recruitement over the summer😷 relegation means a fire sale and the chance for the academy lads,the ones at the back look ok imo,atcheson in particular has looked very accomplished while pratt has been very steady as well I think you'll be lucky to see Atcheson and Litherland next season - both looked good enough to get snaffled up by better run teams. 2 Quote
DutchRover Posted 15 hours ago Posted 15 hours ago 59 minutes ago, davulsukur said: Is this due to injury or just not been selected by his club? (As in, shite) Seems to be out-of-favour rather than injured, similar to Pickering/Ribeiro for us I guess 2 Quote
MarkBRFC Posted 15 hours ago Posted 15 hours ago 54 minutes ago, Ricceh said: Wonder how many of our players have relegation release clauses. Hopefully all of them. 1 Quote
KentExile Posted 15 hours ago Posted 15 hours ago (edited) 1 hour ago, Ricceh said: Wonder how many of our players have relegation release clauses. Will be interesting to see our team sheet in L1 next year. Depends what you mean - an actual clause that they are released for free in the event of relegation... I would imagine none - a minimum fee set for other clubs to buy them if we are relegated? Maybe a few, Cantwell may be one, but as most of the players we have bought recently have been "unknowns", and none have had their contracts renewed in forever, I cant imagine too many will have that stipulation in their contracts - wage reductions in the event of relegation... I would imagine all of them, by anything up to 50% of their current wage Edited 14 hours ago by KentExile Quote
DutchRover Posted 13 hours ago Posted 13 hours ago Assuming we get Afolayan over the line, I will actually be fairly pleased in isolation. At his best he's a direct winger who actually scores, and has pace. Clearly struggled to make jump from Bundesliga 2 to 1, and or lost favour with manager, but he was electric in their promotion season in 23/24. Doesn't make up for our usual incompetence and that he's not played for 3 months is obviously a worry, he would have been a perfect signing in the summer rather than now, but I would hope he will still be up to speed quick given he's not been injured. 1 Quote
Exiled_Rover Posted 13 hours ago Posted 13 hours ago 4 minutes ago, DutchRover said: Assuming we get Afolayan over the line, I will actually be fairly pleased in isolation. At his best he's a direct winger who actually scores, and has pace. Clearly struggled to make jump from Bundesliga 2 to 1, and or lost favour with manager, but he was electric in their promotion season in 23/24. Doesn't make up for our usual incompetence and that he's not played for 3 months is obviously a worry, he would have been a perfect signing in the summer rather than now, but I would hope he will still be up to speed quick given he's not been injured. Not played for 3 months but it's taken us 31 days to get it over the line in January. 9 Quote
RossendaleBlue3 Posted 13 hours ago Posted 13 hours ago 2 hours ago, Ricceh said: Wonder how many of our players have relegation release clauses. Will be interesting to see our team sheet in L1 next year. It's the relegation wage cuts that mean the most to the board. More money saved and they didn't even have to lift a finger 😂 1 Quote
KentExile Posted 13 hours ago Posted 13 hours ago 3 minutes ago, DutchRover said: Assuming we get Afolayan over the line, I will actually be fairly pleased in isolation. At his best he's a direct winger who actually scores, and has pace. Clearly struggled to make jump from Bundesliga 2 to 1, and or lost favour with manager, but he was electric in their promotion season in 23/24. Doesn't make up for our usual incompetence and that he's not played for 3 months is obviously a worry, he would have been a perfect signing in the summer rather than now, but I would hope he will still be up to speed quick given he's not been injured. Looks like he had 3 good goalscoring seasons, one in the National League, one in League One, and one in the German second tier, none of which are the same level as the Championship https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/oladapo-afolayan/leistungsdatendetails/spieler/487850/plus/0?saison=&verein=&liga=&wettbewerb=&pos=&trainer_id= Quote
Exiled_Rover Posted 13 hours ago Posted 13 hours ago 2 minutes ago, RossendaleBlue3 said: It's the relegation wage cuts that mean the most to the board. More money saved and they didn't even have to lift a finger 😂 I still can't fathom why they're content to set fire to money. Quote
RevidgeBlue Posted 13 hours ago Posted 13 hours ago 19 minutes ago, RossendaleBlue3 said: It's the relegation wage cuts that mean the most to the board. More money saved and they didn't even have to lift a finger 😂 It's almost as if they havent realised income will drop by at least £10m if we are relegated............ D'oh! Quote
Torgeir Posted 13 hours ago Posted 13 hours ago 38 minutes ago, Exiled_Rover said: Not played for 3 months but it's taken us 31 days to get it over the line in January. And will take us 31 minutes to get him injured as he's not up to pace. Quote
Torgeir Posted 13 hours ago Posted 13 hours ago Scraping the barrel here with this signing. If it means we're signing a goal-scoring striker for £5m+ then so be it, but we're in deep trouble and have to strengthen the first eleven. 1 Quote
TimmyJimmy Posted 13 hours ago Posted 13 hours ago I have no understanding of what our transfer policy is. It would make more sense to buy 25 goalkeepers. What's wrong with round pegs in round holes. We need a goal scoring striker. Just f'ing buy one and add it to last years squad! I know they cost BIG money but whats the point of buying wingers and forcing them to play out of position just because their agent says "he can play anywhere across the front". That's on top of buying a squad that's got virtually NO Championship experience and selling one that pushes for the playoff each season. I mean what did they expect to happen. I'm no footballing guru but even me, an armchair schmuck, said at the beginning of the season we're fucked. We're all at a loss to explain it I know but how the Hell do Pasha, Gestede et al get away with it? 9 Quote
KentExile Posted 12 hours ago Posted 12 hours ago I keep seeing people crying out for a goalscoring striker To me, our main issue is we are not currently creating much for our strikers to miss anyway in a 4-2-3-1, none of our wingers are actually wingers in a 3-5-2, we only have Alebiosu who is an actual wing back If either one of those issues were sorted out, we would be able to score enough goals to keep us up (not a goal fest, but enough). Gudjohnsen when fit scored 7 in 11 so we have a goalscoring striker anyway 2 Quote
Waggy76 Posted 12 hours ago Posted 12 hours ago 1 hour ago, DutchRover said: Assuming we get Afolayan over the line, I will actually be fairly pleased in isolation. At his best he's a direct winger who actually scores, and has pace. Clearly struggled to make jump from Bundesliga 2 to 1, and or lost favour with manager, but he was electric in their promotion season in 23/24. Doesn't make up for our usual incompetence and that he's not played for 3 months is obviously a worry, he would have been a perfect signing in the summer rather than now, but I would hope he will still be up to speed quick given he's not been injured. Never assume, anything with these Charlatans! 1 Quote
den Posted 12 hours ago Posted 12 hours ago 39 minutes ago, KentExile said: I keep seeing people crying out for a goalscoring striker To me, our main issue is we are not currently creating much for our strikers to miss anyway in a 4-2-3-1, none of our wingers are actually wingers in a 3-5-2, we only have Alebiosu who is an actual wing back If either one of those issues were sorted out, we would be able to score enough goals to keep us up (not a goal fest, but enough). Gudjohnsen when fit scored 7 in 11 so we have a goalscoring striker anyway Nah, KE. Proper strikers make their own space, create their own chances and/or put those chances away. As one of the above posters said, goal scorers don’t play on the wing. Not for long any way. 4 Quote
DutchRover Posted 11 hours ago Posted 11 hours ago 1 hour ago, KentExile said: Looks like he had 3 good goalscoring seasons, one in the National League, one in League One, and one in the German second tier, none of which are the same level as the Championship https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/oladapo-afolayan/leistungsdatendetails/spieler/487850/plus/0?saison=&verein=&liga=&wettbewerb=&pos=&trainer_id= I'm not arguing that he is what we need in a relegation fight, but I have always advocated picking up top League 1 talents, which Afolayan was, hence earning his move to Germany. Bundesliga 2 is better than people give credit for, Telalovic was Bund 3 which is a big step down, but in St Pauli's promotion season there were teams like Hannover, Hamburg, Schalke etc (not as good as past, but still big clubs). He wasn't awful last year in Bundesliga either, played 34 games. As I say, in isolation I like him as a signing, but he's not who I would have signed to save us this season. 1 Quote
KentExile Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago 8 hours ago, den said: Nah, KE. Proper strikers make their own space, create their own chances and/or put those chances away. As one of the above posters said, goal scorers don’t play on the wing. Not for long any way. When did Gudjohnsen (who was the specific goalscoring striker that I mentioned) play on the wing? Quote
Ossydave Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago 10 hours ago, DutchRover said: Clearly struggled to make jump from Bundesliga 2 to 1, and or lost favour with manager He slates the manager in the press due to lack of game time and his cards have been marked since..... He's either got an awful agent or nobody wanted him, suppose time will tell if he's any use...... Quote
Torgeir Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago The games versus Sheff W, Oxford and WBA are absolutely must win now. I only fancy us beating Sheff W at the moment and we’re going into that one with players still out or regaining full fitness. Afolayan will come on for his debut after 60 mins in Tuesday, no matter what the score is. Hope he can hit the ground running. Quote
Penwortham Blue Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 15 minutes ago, BankEnd Rover said: Oxford want Pickering. Only Pasha would push one of our most reliable players out to a relegation rival, to save a few quid ! Quote
TommyRovers Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago Pickering should be our starting left back. Bonkers to let him go to a relegation rival 4 Quote
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