Next Rovers manager

[Herbie6590]

I’m reading all this anti-Coleman diatribe & I think we all need to remember, he did a decent job at Stanley for many years…👀

[broadsword]

Seeing pictures of steve kean while I'm eating breakfast is not doing my gut any favours.

[RevidgeBlue]

I spent a little bit of time last night trying to spot the best up and coming managers from the lower Leagues with outstanding records in the hope of identifying the next Ken Furphy or Gordon Lee who can get a tune out of an ordinary group of players and who might be able to thrive on a budget.

The three that caught my eye in terms of age profile and record were

1) Dave Challinor at Stockport, (already flagged up by Merce and another poster on here) the oldest of the 3 at 50 but with a 51% win record over an extended career

2) The manager at Lincoln Michael Skubala - younger 43 but with a similar win percentage (45%) over a much shorter career. Seemingly stood in at Leeds for 3 games as caretaker manager before that which I dont recall.

3) One that really intrigued me was a 40 Yr old centre back Jimmy Mcnulty acting as player manager for Rochdale and who seemingly has them streaking away with the Conference leaving the likes of Sparky and Savage in his rear view mirror at the moment. Again hovering around the 50% win ratio. (47% over 151 games)

I know he probably couldnt play at that age at CB in the Championship but Howard Kendal vibes? Anyone know anything about him? Is it Tyrone who has Rochdale links?

Edited 2 hours ago by RevidgeBlue

[G Somerset Rover]

22 minutes ago, broadsword said:

Seeing pictures of steve kean while I'm eating breakfast is not doing my gut any favours.

You'll be seeing him in the stands sat next to Pasha and Rudy whilst Cookie is in the dug-out. They'll need to be giving out sick buckets with each ticket.

Edited 2 hours ago by G Somerset Rover

[RevidgeBlue]

Double post sorry

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[Exiled_Rover]

Any manager currently in employment (or with designs on gainful employment in the near future) will steer well clear of this club.

In the past we could trick them by promising them a hands-off approach from the owners and a decent budget.

We've proven that we're trying to operate with a mid-table L1 budget this season - and that appears to be only getting worse (once they get the likes of Tronstad, Cantwell et al off the wage bill). 

We're searching through the dregs of the unemployed managers. 

[JHRover]

8 minutes ago, Exiled_Rover said:

Any manager currently in employment (or with designs on gainful employment in the near future) will steer well clear of this club.

In the past we could trick them by promising them a hands-off approach from the owners and a decent budget.

We've proven that we're trying to operate with a mid-table L1 budget this season - and that appears to be only getting worse (once they get the likes of Tronstad, Cantwell et al off the wage bill). 

We're searching through the dregs of the unemployed managers. 

Indeed. At best we get a Watford-esqe succession of foreign head coaches who want to get into English football and perhaps don't mind working under a structure like we are trying (and failing) to impose with recruitment handled upstairs. With such a model you get a new head coach every 12 months at best.

More likely that they go for a cheaper option than that which is to give it to someone like Coleman who knows he won't get back into English football any other way than accepting what we are offering. 

[Tyrone Shoelaces]

53 minutes ago, RevidgeBlue said:

I spent a little bit of time last night trying to spot the best up and coming managers from the lower Leagues with outstanding records in the hope of identifying the next Ken Furphy or Gordon Lee who can get a tune out of an ordinary group of players and who might be able to thrive on a budget.

The three that caught my eye in terms of age profile and record were

1) Dave Challinor at Stockport, (already flagged up by Merce and another poster on here) the oldest of the 3 at 50 but with a 51% win record over an extended career

2) The manager at Lincoln Michael Skubala - younger 43 but with a similar win percentage (45%) over a much shorter career. Seemingly stood in at Leeds for 3 games as caretaker manager before that which I dont recall.

3) One that really intrigued me was a 40 Yr old centre back Jimmy Mcnulty acting as player manager for Rochdale and who seemingly has them streaking away with the Conference leaving the likes of Sparky and Savage in his rear view mirror at the moment. Again hovering around the 50% win ratio. (47% over 151 games)

I know he probably couldnt play at that age at CB in the Championship but Howard Kendal vibes? Anyone know anything about him? Is it Tyrone who has Rochdale links?

McNulty doesn’t play anymore. He was a decent lower level centre half in his day. The Dale fans blow a bit hot and cold with him to be honest. At the moment they’re blowing hot obviously. Previously he got a lot of grief because of his insistence of playing passing football with players who weren’t quite up to it. Now they’ve dropped down the league and have bought better players courtesy of a local billionaire they can play that way successfully. 
 

Challinor is interesting but I wonder if he’s a bit like Coleman was at Accy Stanley ? 
 

Skubala, I know nothing about.

[StHelensRover]

1 hour ago, RevidgeBlue said:

 

3) One that really intrigued me was a 40 Yr old centre back Jimmy Mcnulty acting as player manager for Rochdale

The GIFs and memes we'd have with him would be another level

[RevidgeBlue]

46 minutes ago, Tyrone Shoelaces said:

 Now they’ve dropped down the league and have bought better players courtesy of a local billionaire they can play that way successfully. 

Can we put in a joint offer for him and the billionaire?

Lol.

[Polky]

Pete O’Rourke linking us with Savage…

[Tyrone Shoelaces]

Just now, Polky said:

Pete O’Rourke linking us with Savage…

It’s a risk but every appointment is a risk. I’d go along with that. 

[Jimmy612]

https://www.footballinsider247.com/exclusive-robbie-savage-is-a-top-contender-to-be-blackburn-rovers-manager/

[MarkBRFC]

Football Insider has a terrible track record.

Think it's an easy link to make.

Not going to happen.

[Jimmy612]

1 minute ago, MarkBRFC said:

Football Insider has a terrible track record.

Think it's an easy link to make.

Not going to happen.

With the Coleman links I'm just clinging to absolutely anything I can find as an alternative. 

[RevidgeBlue]

11 minutes ago, MarkBRFC said:

Football Insider has a terrible track record.

Think it's an easy link to make.

Not going to happen.

He could have made that link reading this site.

I want a finder's fee if it comes off.

[Exiled_Rover]

17 minutes ago, Polky said:

Pete O’Rourke linking us with Savage…

He's not that stupid.

[Jimmy612]

6 minutes ago, RevidgeBlue said:

He could have made that link reading this site.

I want a finder's fee if it comes off.

Well, let's hope someone at Ewood is having a browse too.  If they are, they'll know not to touch Coleman with a barge pole! 

[alcd]

21 minutes ago, MarkBRFC said:

Football Insider has a terrible track record.

Think it's an easy link to make.

Not going to happen.

Pretty certain Savage wouldn't work with this management. 

[Herbie6590]

If I was a recruiter/headhunter taking the brief to find the next manager I'd insist on a job specification that clearly stipulated the competency/capability requirements & the expected length of the contract because I think there are two (possibly conflicting) sets of requirements that lead to two quite different candidate profiles.

1. Urgent & Important 

• Keep Rovers in this division - so need someone who understands the division & with as much knowledge of the Rovers squad as possible
• A motivator
• An organiser
• A communicator - not just internally but also with the fans

 

2. Important - but not quite as urgent

• Willing to work in a given hierarchy with limited influence, to a budget
• Proven coaching ability
• Proven ability to develop players for resale
• Tactically flexible
• Proven capability to learn to operate in a new division, new country

 

You'd perhaps go Gary Rowett for 1. & someone like Will Still for 2.

I fear Rovers will be driven purely by cost & the need to appoint someone to placate the fans...a former player?

[Hasta]

Just now, Herbie6590 said:

the need to appoint someone to placate the fans...a former player?

This got mentioned a couple of times yesterday, but since Shebby pushed for Berg, when have they appeared to do anything to "placate the fans". Coyle was exactly the opposite.

It will start with cost and contacts, and then they may make a pick of the best candidate from there.

[Old Codger]

6 minutes ago, alcd said:

Pretty certain Savage wouldn't work with this management. 

He bicep Trouser Boy to the moon within a week of landing the job, to be sure.

It has a certain sentimental appeal, but Savage is a clever bloke, and he would definitely be able to see way past the gloss & hype to the realities of working under the bumble brothers.

Same goes for Damian Duff.

[roversfan99]

Of course he would come here. It would be moving up 3 divisions.

[RevidgeBlue]

2 minutes ago, roversfan99 said:

Of course he would come here. It would be moving up 3 divisions.

Same with everyone in that situation I suppose.

At worst, if he comes here and does well for 12 months, he puts himself in the shop window.

[Tugayslongwalkoff]

With the absolute crap we’re being linked with, I would genuinely take Mark Hughes with Robbie Savage assistant manager. 
 

Hughes, instantly commands respect from both players and fans. Savage can have a more modern input in his ears and lastly there would surely be a sizeable amount of fans that would come back and aid the new manager bounce.