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Without doubt the best day I’ve spent watching Rovers. We had nothing, expected even less and a day many of us will never forget.

Were you not one of those Punks are the start Tony?

Unused ticket. Sadly couldn't make it and missed Hendry's goal in the 1 0 win.

It tends to be extreme either way. There is either great joy at their struggles, or they're lauded for their time here for supposedly holding the club to account.

Not in old money Chaddy. Got to admit I always consider 5 and 6 centre halves, as was always the case.

Bruce Springsteen and E Street Band - Seeds

I dont even think Rogers was very effective yesterday, and hes been poor for Villa. I dont think he can do anything that at least some of those better players cant do. And his only good games in general this season have been for England against really poor opposition, and he hasnt been stand out. Of those other players, the issue has been trying to shoehorn too many similar players in at once. In the past, although hes an inferior player, we didnt have the balance of a pacy Gordon running beyond on the left or someone sat beside Rice letting him run on. Bellingham in terms of style of player I dont think is chalk and cheese with Rogers for example, just much better. With balance around him, there is no reason that he cant play in this team. At the last Euros, he ended up often playing from the left.

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I agree that Bellingham, Foden and Palmer are all better players. But we need someone who works with Kane and all those three have really struggled. Rodgers might not be as good, but jf hes making the right off the ball runs, pressing etc and therefore getting the best out of Kane then then he has to keep the shirt. Foden is a lost cause imo as he is just so indirect - I just cant see how he fits in at all. Palmer and Bellingham do have more to offer if they commit to giving up the number 10 space and possession of the ball to Kane and focus on running through, but they are naturally very similar to Kane wanting others to make the runs while they take a lot of touches and try to be the offensive pivot. Anyway Tuchel has played it well, putting the onus on them to show they can adapt. Not got many England games to do that though.

That would infuriate me beyond belief

The word Pasha has appeared in this week's Jumbo independent crossword. The clue being a district governor or high official in the Ottoman empire or modern Egyptian kingdom. Is this a word Suhail has adopted for himself or a given name at birth. If the former explains how he sees himself.

Mental they've not even announced it yet.

Presume this special kit is being worn in the actual match and not just the kickabout after? Watch them rub salt in the wounds and have the Venkys logo emblazoned on it

Ok so it was time to move on after successive coaches couldn't match what he offered to a team and he didn't step up to what was needed from him. However it's really odd they then went like for like in his replacement on the payroll presumably just based on this lad being of bigger more athletic build. But cut from the same lacadaisical cloth and still struggling to fit the style of play...whatever that actually is.

This argument always surprises me as surely we should look at ourselves first and consider the profits that English football has or is currently making from dictatorships and exploitative corporations. That's not to mention our British governments role. Seems to me, once we have got our house in order, we can go and try to sort out the rest of the world.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/cj0e85lm36no Six subs incoming. Can't have those pesky diddy teams crossing the drawbridge.

River didn't have a say in it last time it rained

Cheers Gav. Probably for another thread but I remember Vox Pop like it was yesterday and knew lots of the characters.

Chiesa was pretty special throughout that tournament. Injuries have set him back a lot, but in 2020/21 he was one of the best attacking midfield options in Europe.

My point is that he doesnt really play that same role for Forest so there are question marks about his suitability in playing that holding role and how he would fare against proper opposition. A few games against crap teams in which England werent tested doesnt answer those question marks. Neither does anything he did in under age groups, although I have probably as little idea as you as to whether he even played there. Hes a good player, I am merely questioning how good he actually is, we have a habit of overhyping players based on a couple of games against crap teams. And also more importantly, how suited he is to that particular role. That Gerrard and Lampard line is just a recycled one used out of context here. I am noy saying that we should stick all of Bellingham, Palmer and Foden all in and try to squeeze them in as we have in the past, I did say that we are correct to try and be more balanced. But there has to be room for one of them in what is their natural position. Any of the 3 are a couple of levels above the likes of Rogers and if we cant get any of these in the team then something is wrong. I refuse to accept that say Bellingham playing as a number 10 ie his natural position is not good for the team.

I remember reading the story of Herbie Arthur in the snowstorm game against Burnley when I was about 6 and it captured my imagination. To date it's still one of my favourite stories. For those that aren't aware, I've included it below. "Burnley was the scene on December 12th, 1891, of an incident with which Arthur's name will ever be associated. Sir Charles Clegg, now the president of the Football Association, was the referee, and in a blinding snowstorm Burnley led at half-time by three goals. The second half had not been long in progress when two players, between whom there had been earlier friction, squared up again. Both men received marching orders. The whole of the Rovers team, with the exception of Arthur, followed to the dressing-room, and could not be persuaded to return. Thereupon, Mr. Clegg, as he then was, directed Burnley to recommence the game―with 'Herby' Arthur against ten men. In this predicament the goalkeeper successfully claimed for offside, and rallied so long in taking the free kick that the referee applied the closure."

Well so far so good for him. He played a similar role for England during the under 21's tournament this season. Limited experience? You mean recent opponents? You can only play who we played but for me, its how he plays the 6 role and the partnership with Rice which both seem to suit each other games. But does it suit the team better tho? That's what matters surely? Team first? We tried to fit Gerrard and Lampard into the same system and it never worked out

Not football related, but filmed in Darwen, with Darreners:

Getting gates of 1600+ at tier 7 level they are an exception which explains decision to opt out. On a personal note if Bamber Bridge mess with the 3pm kick off on a Saturday I won't be bothering. Think this is an awful decision to change kick off times for streaming. Hope large numbers of clubs opt out.

Our fans in general seem to grow unhealthy dislikes of departed managers here despite them all doing good jobs here before being undermined by Venkys. There seems to be a lot taking great happiness in Tomasson's struggles. There was the embarassing snake stuff at Derby away which I suspect will be repeated next month. And even Mowbray, the level of over the top hatred rather than focusing on the real problem.