Adam Wharton

[arbitro]

I really the I think the days of Pepball are coming to an end and yesterday was a perfect example why as the high press was dispensed with. On paper City had the best players and manager but Glasner is a smart cookie and let City have the ball in their own half but as soon as they tried to advance they closed them down. Guardiola didn't have an answer to this as he can only play one way.

How many opportunities did City overlook to put the ball in the box. On the few occasions they did they looked dangerous. Haaland must tear his hair out at players like Doku.

I think the footballing snobs might point to the statistics which were overwhelmingly in City's favour but the most important one was that Palace scored 100% of the goals.

[Mattyblue]

Indeed, it will make all the lemming coaches and DoFs at the various levels of the game (and academies) look a tad silly when League 2 centre halves and goalkeepers are expected to be centre halves and goalkeepers again.

[47er]

44 minutes ago, arbitro said:

I really the I think the days of Pepball are coming to an end and yesterday was a perfect example why as the high press was dispensed with. On paper City had the best players and manager but Glasner is a smart cookie and let City have the ball in their own half but as soon as they tried to advance they closed them down. Guardiola didn't have an answer to this as he can only play one way.

How many opportunities did City overlook to put the ball in the box. On the few occasions they did they looked dangerous. Haaland must tear his hair out at players like Doku.

I think the footballing snobs might point to the statistics which were overwhelmingly in City's favour but the most important one was that Palace scored 100% of the goals.

True to a great extent but City should have won that game--missed several chances they'd usually take though Henderson was superb. Haaland was poor.

I usually find Palace's style more to my liking, they score some great goals but they were camped in their own half yesterday. Looked more like a Div 1 team with the odd excursion upfield.

Edited 3 hours ago by 47er

[K-Hod]

Pep Guardiola is such a bad loser.

They were done fair and square yesterday and how he was with Henderson at full time, was absolutely pathetic.

[rigger]

8 hours ago, bluebruce said:

I mean, I wasn't there, it was maybe 3 years before I got into football. But from what I infer from the moaning I see, a lot of people are holding a grudge against them for more than 30 years because a referee handled the game poorly and cost us promotion. Which doesn't sound like good reasoning. I'm sure someone can tell me what I'm missing about it.

Your first five words are the most telling.

[47er]

51 minutes ago, K-Hod said:

If nothing else, the goal from Palace was an antidote to aimless passing for the sake of it, with some quick wing play and a smart finish. Moving the ball quickly with purpose, been a while since I’ve seen that at the top level!

Quite a few of the "lesser" teams play that way in the Premier League now, or they try to----Wolves, Bournemouth, Brentford, Forest, Fulham.

That's what I was arguing last week--EPL much more enjoyable to watch these days.

[47er]

3 minutes ago, K-Hod said:

Pep Guardiola is such a bad loser.

They were done fair and square yesterday and how he was with Henderson at full time, was absolutely pathetic.

though I cannot believe that Henderson stayed on the pitch....extraordinary.

[rigger]

31 minutes ago, Mattyblue said:

Indeed, it will make all the lemming coaches and DoFs at the various levels of the game (and academies) look a tad silly when League 2 centre halves and goalkeepers are expected to be centre halves and goalkeepers again.

A good thing might be, is that Pratt is one of those old fashioned center halves. 

[K-Hod]

3 minutes ago, 47er said:

though I cannot believe that Henderson stayed on the pitch....extraordinary.

Yeah, it was absolutely wild, that!

[arbitro]

7 minutes ago, 47er said:

True to a great extent but City should have won that game--missed several chances they'd usually take though Henderson was superb. Haaland was poor.

I usually find Palace's style more to my liking, they score some great goals but they were camped in their own half yesterday Looked more like a Div 1 team with the odd excursion upfield.

I honestly can't remember many clear cut chances for City and again, from memory most of their six shots on target were from outside the box.

The service to Haaland was poor in my opinion particularly the lack of balls into the box where he is dangerous. Tactically Palace got it spot on for me as they denied City space to run in behind. Palace can play some good stuff but yesterday showed that there are more than one way to win a match and ultimately that's the most important thing.

[rigger]

6 minutes ago, 47er said:

though I cannot believe that Henderson stayed on the pitch....extraordinary.

Why wasn't a free-kick given for handball ?

[Crimpshrine]

Palace in Europe so I hope Adam decides to stay for another season.

That would prevent Venky's getting another immediate windfall to flush down the toilet. They can then use the famous 'no impediment' route to fund the club.

[Tyrone Shoelaces]

13 minutes ago, rigger said:

Why wasn't a free-kick given for handball ?

I was thinking that. It was definitely outside the box and it was a definite handball.

[chaddyrovers]

7 hours ago, Eddie said:

Agreed. Not even sure why this thread still gets much action.

He left. 

Yes, he was pushed towards the door, but he left. He signed the contract (and his agent was doing a very good job of raising his profile in the 6 months prior to the exit). 

Good luck to him. I even hope to see him back at Rovers at some point in the future, but so long as he isn't here then I have no reason to hope that his clubs do well. 

I was hoping City smashed them. Find Palace fans insufferable. 

I hope for Palace win for a different team to win something. 

[Tyrone Shoelaces]

21 minutes ago, arbitro said:

I honestly can't remember many clear cut chances for City and again, from memory most of their six shots on target were from outside the box.

The service to Haaland was poor in my opinion particularly the lack of balls into the box where he is dangerous. Tactically Palace got it spot on for me as they denied City space to run in behind. Palace can play some good stuff but yesterday showed that there are more than one way to win a match and ultimately that's the most important thing.

That O’Reilly had the best chance in the second half but by the time he’d switched the ball from being a right foot shot onto his “ favoured “ left foot the chance had gone ! I despair of modern footballers that are so one footed. What do the do in training ?

Edited 3 hours ago by Tyrone Shoelaces

[47er]

24 minutes ago, arbitro said:

I honestly can't remember many clear cut chances for City and again, from memory most of their six shots on target were from outside the box.

The service to Haaland was poor in my opinion particularly the lack of balls into the box where he is dangerous. Tactically Palace got it spot on for me as they denied City space to run in behind. Palace can play some good stuff but yesterday showed that there are more than one way to win a match and ultimately that's the most important thing.

Henderson made 6 or 7 saves. Penalty and one where I was sure it was going in the highlights. The rest were high quality too.

Agree with your general point though and I'm happy to see pace and width coming back. The ball pulled back from the byeline is still the most dangerous in football.

[47er]

28 minutes ago, rigger said:

Why wasn't a free-kick given for handball ?

Mind-boggling that one.

[BankEnd Rover]

39 minutes ago, K-Hod said:

Pep Guardiola is such a bad loser.

They were done fair and square yesterday and how he was with Henderson at full time, was absolutely pathetic.

Disagree with this, I think Pep is one of the more humble managers when it comes to loosing, especially in this press after games...Henderson is a wind up merchant and for me should have just kept his head down instead of giving it the "I am"...He shouldn't have been on the pitch for Christ sake. 
 

 

 

[BankEnd Rover]

I've watched Wharton a lot this season and thought yesterday was one of his okay games.....Amazing you still see great comments about him based on average performances...He's going to the very top! 

Edited 2 hours ago by BankEnd Rover

[Mattyblue]

For me he’s a sign of the the post-PepBall future. He isn’t interested in the safe option, always looking to get the ball in to dangerous positions and to turn the opposition (even if he loses Palace possession at times)- the exact opposite of what the likes of Grealish have been turned into.

[sharpysharps86]

12 hours ago, Tugayisgod said:

Good news, that'll help cover Waggotts next bonus 😭

[KentExile]

2 minutes ago, sharpysharps86 said:

Good news, that'll help cover Waggotts next bonus 😭

[bluebruce]

1 hour ago, rigger said:

Your first five words are the most telling.

Whatever, just be dismissive about it instead of replying to the last words and sharing what the problem is.

[47er]

35 minutes ago, Mattyblue said:

For me he’s a sign of the the post-PepBall future. He isn’t interested in the safe option, always looking to get the ball in to dangerous positions and to turn the opposition (even if he loses Palace possession at times)- the exact opposite of what the likes of Grealish have been turned into.

It wasn't a game for him to show his attributes unfortunately because Palace were so much on the defensive.

He did make some useful interventions though.

[riverholmes]

43 minutes ago, BankEnd Rover said:

I've watched Wharton a lot this season and thought yesterday was one of his okay games.....Amazing you still see great comments about him based on average performances...He's going to the very top! 

I'm not sure, but I wonder if Wharton has not been the same since his groin surgery mid-season. Palace continued to play him when he was struggling badly, putting off the op. This despite the fact that they have a fair few central midfielders. I don't know the details, obviously, but from afar, it was negligent, at best, and maybe even cynical. As a result of having his op. later, clubs needing a quick fix couldn't consider him for the January transfer window.

He certainly wasn't great against Villa in the semi-final and outshone by Kamada, in my opinion (despite the pundits lazy bandwagoning). Hopefully, he will return to his best.