Adam Wharton

[London blue]

Filly signed up to the tinpot, cringe club.

As someone else said, my love of football goes beyond watching Rovers, and that Wharton will almost certainly be playing at the very top will only enhance my enjoyment of watching it.

Sorry.

[Dreams of 1995]

2 hours ago, Displaced Rover said:

Sorry I didn’t realise I’m only allowed to view certain topics…

The collective head loss from you all on here about Wharton is tragic. If you saw other clubs doing this you’d think it’s incredibly tin pot (and you’d be correct)

How is it tin pot to be celebrating a local lad whose career trajectory is looking like he will go down as one of the great English players?

There have been other players who have left us that are doing equally well. David Raya for example. There isn’t the same interest because he isn’t a Blackburner, he doesn’t still come down and watch the Rovers

I suppose if you don’t like it, you don’t have to read the thread at all. Nothing tragic about keeping an eye on one of our own 

[bluebruce]

3 hours ago, Displaced Rover said:

Sorry I didn’t realise I’m only allowed to view certain topics…

The collective head loss from you all on here about Wharton is tragic. If you saw other clubs doing this you’d think it’s incredibly tin pot (and you’d be correct)

You're allowed to view them, obviously. I'm just pointing out it's weird and pointless to do so if you're not interested, just to come and bitch about people who are. 

[bluebruce]

4 hours ago, Eddie said:

 

There are few examples that are more indicative of just how far this club has fallen.

That's the strangest thing that's been said in here yet. There are absolutely loads.

The dwindling fanbase. The fact we can protest extensively but know that nothing will likely be done. The fact managers don't get sacked here due to fan pressure like they would everywhere else. The embarrassingly long stay in this league. The total lack of ambition from the club. The lack of communication from our own owners. The fans at each others throats, with one half infected with some kind of weird Stockholm syndrome about our blatantly poisonous owners. The inability to get anybody to renew their contract for more than a snickers as a pay rise. The decaying state of Ewood. The charlatans we've let have a big say in running us. The fact Waggott is still here.

Just off the top of my head. The fact some fans are still following the exploits of a local lad and fan who we built is really neither here nor there.

[bluebruce]

Actually some more...the O'Brien debacle. The Maguire debacle. The Brierley debacle. The every January transfer window debacle, even when poised for promotion. I can't imagine them not being well ahead in anybody's list no matter how they feel about this.

[Upside Down]

6 hours ago, bluebruce said:

He has the potential to become a world class player. He was hardly going to slum it at this ambitionless circus in the Championship for too long and waste his career. He didn't force the club to sell him, in fact the rumours were that the club basically forced him to leave, saying they needed the money to keep running.

Doesn't that last part justify my argument here?

[Leonard Venkhater]

21 hours ago, bluebruce said:

I mean, I wasn't there, it was maybe 3 years before I got into football. But from what I infer from the moaning I see, a lot of people are holding a grudge against them for more than 30 years because a referee handled the game poorly and cost us promotion. Which doesn't sound like good reasoning. I'm sure someone can tell me what I'm missing about it.

 

The context was a club that had failed to make the final step in 1981 on goal difference and one that had faded away from promotion positions to 5th more than once afterwards, including  the previous season's huge ,final stage collapse from automatic promotion position with Archibald, Ardiles et al.

This was an awful, awful weekend. The weekend of Tiananmen Square massacre too.

Rovers arrived with a 3-1 advantage from the first leg with the frustration of Howard Gayle's missed penalty.

The Rovers fans were crammed in a tiny corner. It felt much more restricted than my previous visits to Selhurst. The Palace crowd were already wound up and their stadium managers were clever at placing speakers to blast out the way contingent, so we could hardly hear ourselves speak in the 20 minutes before kick off. 

The team bloody froze. Nothing went right from the first kick of the ball....and yet, we still could have done it. We only needed to score once.

Courtney allowed Wright and Bright to get away with fouling over physicality from the start...Think of it, as a cross between Old Trafford and Escape to Victory!

Then, the penalty that never was -in the 2nd half at 0-0. None of us knew why it had been given. Even Ian Wright agreed, albeit 25 years later. From memory, the Palace attack was actually finished and the ball was moving out of our area at the time.

Finally, the last few minutes were a joke when Courtney allowed play to continue while hundreds of Palace fans, spilled onto the side of the pitch along the touchline..

The final whistle and the Dave Clark fcking Five...

 

 

Edited 4 hours ago by Leonard Venkhater

[Upside Down]

7 hours ago, Eddie said:

Honestly, our club is bigger than this.

If I were supporting some National League club, then I would love to follow the rise of an academy player. But what a f*cking tiny club mindset. 

Agree with this 100%.

It's small time and tinpot. Embarrassing really.

I don't give two fucks about Crystal Palace, they're a complete non entity.

I can understand a very minor interest in how Wharton is getting on but this whole thread is just completely embarrassing.

We are Blackburn Rovers. Former Premier League champions and the tenth most successful club in England.

Wharton should have stayed and forced the club to run out of money to bring on administration, that would have been a great thing for him to do.

He ain't a Rovers player anymore so I couldn't give a toss.

What are you all going to do if he scores against us? Start cheering, waving your Palace or whatever other shit club he's playing for, scarves over your heads?

As I said before, a real Rovers fan wouldn't have allowed themselves to be shoved out the door like that.

And one more thing, a tea cake doesn't have fucking currants in it!

Edited 3 hours ago by Upside Down

[Mattyblue]

There seems to be just as much overreaction from those saying it’s an overreaction. 

This thread has largely been bemoaning the disgraceful behaviour of the regime (so like most threads on here) over the sale. There has then been a sprinkling of posts discussing him as a player. I’m really struggling to see what’s ‘tinpot’ about it.

[M_B]

1 hour ago, Leonard Venkhater said:

 

The context was a club that had failed to make the final step in 1981 on goal difference and one that had faded away from promotion positions to 5th more than once afterwards, including  the previous season's huge ,final stage collapse from automatic promotion position with Archibald, Ardiles et al.

This was an awful, awful weekend. The weekend of Tiananmen Square massacre too.

Rovers arrived with a 3-1 advantage from the first leg with the frustration of Howard Gayle's missed penalty.

The Rovers fans were crammed in a tiny corner. It felt much more restricted than my previous visits to Selhurst. The Palace crowd were already wound up and their stadium managers were clever at placing speakers to blast out the way contingent, so we could hardly hear ourselves speak in the 20 minutes before kick off. 

The team bloody froze. Nothing went right from the first kick of the ball....and yet, we still could have done it. We only needed to score once.

Courtney allowed Wright and Bright to get away with fouling over physicality from the start...Think of it, as a cross between Old Trafford and Escape to Victory!

Then, the penalty that never was -in the 2nd half at 0-0. None of us knew why it had been given. Even Ian Wright agreed, albeit 25 years later. From memory, the Palace attack was actually finished and the ball was moving out of our area at the time.

Finally, the last few minutes were a joke when Courtney allowed play to continue while hundreds of Palace fans, spilled onto the side of the pitch along the touchline..

The final whistle and the Dave Clark fcking Five...

 

 

I'll never forget Courtney's face when he came out the next time he reffed us at Bradford.

[Mike E]

I’ll have to break it to my Rovers-mad nephew that having 3 ‘Wharton’ shirts (Rovers, England, and Palace) that he’s ‘tinpot’, ‘a bit cringe’, ‘not a real fan’, and whatever other nonsense is being said.

There is nothing wrong with following a player’s career and wishing them every success. Idolising a local lad and fellow fan, is just fine. In fact, I would argue it’s something admirable that has been lost from real football fandom, rather than something to be derided.

Hellfire, we had a decent circle jerk about Raya performing superbly against Real Madrid in the Champions League semi only a couple of weeks ago and nobody started lashing out at other fans for that. And Raya’s neither a local nor a fan.

6 hours ago, Eddie said:

You can disagree with me, but the reasoning that you use is poor. 

15 years ago we would have been laughing at Burnley had they been turning up to FA Cup finals with flags to support an ex-player. 

There are few examples that are more indicative of just how far this club has fallen. We could run through a list as long as my arm of academy players or 'Blackburn lads' who didn't get this type of attention when they left. 

I’d be interested to know that long list of talented academy products who were alleged Rovers fans that went on to do better than Rovers.

I can think of Phil Jones, and…

Well maybe Dunny, but he was established and moved sideways. Derbyshire? Gally? Who else?

Nobody on Wharton’s level, that’s for sure, and nobody that went up the ladder so easily.

Edited 2 hours ago by Mike E

[Giant]

2 hours ago, Upside Down said:

And one more thing, a tea cake doesn't have fucking currants in it!

Sorry, you are wrong. I’m a Darwen baker’s son, and grew up in a bakery. A tea cake in this part of Lancashire has currants in it, one without is a plain teacake. 

Edited 1 hour ago by Giant
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[simongarnerisgod]

2 hours ago, Leonard Venkhater said:

 

The context was a club that had failed to make the final step in 1981 on goal difference and one that had faded away from promotion positions to 5th more than once afterwards, including  the previous season's huge ,final stage collapse from automatic promotion position with Archibald, Ardiles et al.

This was an awful, awful weekend. The weekend of Tiananmen Square massacre too.

Rovers arrived with a 3-1 advantage from the first leg with the frustration of Howard Gayle's missed penalty.

The Rovers fans were crammed in a tiny corner. It felt much more restricted than my previous visits to Selhurst. The Palace crowd were already wound up and their stadium managers were clever at placing speakers to blast out the way contingent, so we could hardly hear ourselves speak in the 20 minutes before kick off. 

The team bloody froze. Nothing went right from the first kick of the ball....and yet, we still could have done it. We only needed to score once.

Courtney allowed Wright and Bright to get away with fouling over physicality from the start...Think of it, as a cross between Old Trafford and Escape to Victory!

Then, the penalty that never was -in the 2nd half at 0-0. None of us knew why it had been given. Even Ian Wright agreed, albeit 25 years later. From memory, the Palace attack was actually finished and the ball was moving out of our area at the time.

Finally, the last few minutes were a joke when Courtney allowed play to continue while hundreds of Palace fans, spilled onto the side of the pitch along the touchline..

The final whistle and the Dave Clark fcking Five...

 

 

i try to erase that day from my memory,tuned in to the game on radio lancs and from that day on,iv`e never been able to listen to a  game on the radio,it scarred me for life,losing semi finals,losing games to burnley,last minutes goals against us ,nothing will ever be as bad as that game in south london

[47er]

5 hours ago, chaddyrovers said:

great by Adam Wharton and that's how grounded he actually is as a person

The Guardian had a great description of his laid-back style a week or 2 back. Their reporter described him as "playing like he had both hands in his pockets."  

Perfect!

Edited 40 minutes ago by 47er

[Upside Down]

1 hour ago, Giant said:

Sorry, you are wrong. I’m a Darwen baker’s son, and grew up in a bakery. A tea cake in this part of Lancashire has currants in it, one without is a plain teacake. 

Then that's a currant tea cake.

[bluebruce]

3 hours ago, Leonard Venkhater said:

 

The context was a club that had failed to make the final step in 1981 on goal difference and one that had faded away from promotion positions to 5th more than once afterwards, including  the previous season's huge ,final stage collapse from automatic promotion position with Archibald, Ardiles et al.

This was an awful, awful weekend. The weekend of Tiananmen Square massacre too.

Rovers arrived with a 3-1 advantage from the first leg with the frustration of Howard Gayle's missed penalty.

The Rovers fans were crammed in a tiny corner. It felt much more restricted than my previous visits to Selhurst. The Palace crowd were already wound up and their stadium managers were clever at placing speakers to blast out the way contingent, so we could hardly hear ourselves speak in the 20 minutes before kick off. 

The team bloody froze. Nothing went right from the first kick of the ball....and yet, we still could have done it. We only needed to score once.

Courtney allowed Wright and Bright to get away with fouling over physicality from the start...Think of it, as a cross between Old Trafford and Escape to Victory!

Then, the penalty that never was -in the 2nd half at 0-0. None of us knew why it had been given. Even Ian Wright agreed, albeit 25 years later. From memory, the Palace attack was actually finished and the ball was moving out of our area at the time.

Finally, the last few minutes were a joke when Courtney allowed play to continue while hundreds of Palace fans, spilled onto the side of the pitch along the touchline..

The final whistle and the Dave Clark fcking Five...

 

 

Thanks for answering the query. That sounds like 90% the fault of the ref and our own team, and no need for us to wish Palace every misfortune over 30 years later, as I suspected. Especially since we had the last laugh by getting promoted a few years later and winning the league. Thanks again.

[bluebruce]

1 hour ago, Mike E said:

I’ll have to break it to my Rovers-mad nephew that having 3 ‘Wharton’ shirts (Rovers, England, and Palace) that he’s ‘tinpot’, ‘a bit cringe’, ‘not a real fan’, and whatever other nonsense is being said.

Sorry I'm gonna have to diverge a bit here and say I do think him having a Palace shirt is a bit cringe. I've never understood why any Rovers fan would own another club's shirt. Rovers shirts, England shirts, maybe a Darwen shirt if you're a local and like to check out a bit of lower league football. Anything else, absolutely not.

You could give me a signed Zidane Real Madrid shirt, or a signed match worn Wharton Palace shirt and the only thing I'd be interested in doing with it would be selling it. I wish him well but another club's paraphernalia is a hard pass from me.