roversfan99 Posted Tuesday at 21:29 Posted Tuesday at 21:29 2 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said: Plus what you haven't factored in new owners and that tend to lead to a change in the dugout most times plus they want a data lead approach in recruitment. Didn't realise you were big Chris Wilder. I stand my comments about the Cleverley sacking at Watford. Hope he does well at Plymouth. Chance for him to build something there Doesnt mean that the decision was correct. I mentioned before about a growing trend of data nerds overruling managers who actually know what intangibles are requires to build successful teams. Xg and the rest of it wont factor that in. I know you will say "but thats how football is now" but I am questioning whether its always a good thing. Wilder is a bell end. I dont get why you are so personally invested in Cleverley to the point where you angrily wish teams that sack him to be relegated and hope he does well at his new club rather than share the ambivalence that everyone else will have. Quote
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davulsukur Posted Tuesday at 22:01 Posted Tuesday at 22:01 1 hour ago, chaddyrovers said: I think Rob Edwards to Boro isn't a strange appointment. Gerhard Struber going to Bristol City, is a move I don't get. Deffo think they could have done much better Sellas to Sheffield United is a surprise move but The Sheffield United owners want to move to data lead recruitment approac. I surprised they are sacking Wilder to be honest Sellas took over at Hull with them rock bottom of the championship and he kept them up. Did a good job there shame Hull owner didn't stick by him. They'd already spent £30m, I'm guessing they expected more than a 21st place finish. (Disclaimer, I don't know the full in and outside of their business) Quote
rog of the rovers Posted Wednesday at 08:05 Posted Wednesday at 08:05 Burnleys fixture release gives us some clues as to Rovers fixtures. Usually when Burnley are at home, Rovers are away and vice versa for policing purposes. Therefore using this logic Home - Weekend of November 8th (closest to 5th November) for 150th Anniversary, New Years Fixture, Last game of the season Away - First game of the season, Boxing Day, Quote
Tugayisgod Posted Wednesday at 09:44 Posted Wednesday at 09:44 Another clown who should be nowhere near ownership of a football club . Wednesday banned from making ANY signings for the next three windows. Quote
arbitro Posted Wednesday at 10:31 Posted Wednesday at 10:31 42 minutes ago, Tugayisgod said: Another clown who should be nowhere near ownership of a football club . Wednesday banned from making ANY signings for the next three windows. As it states 'fee restriction' I took that to mean they can sign players but maybe only free or low value signings. I recall something similar with us when we were under an embargo and I think there was also a limit we could pay new signings. Quote
Moderation Lead K-Hod Posted Wednesday at 10:37 Moderation Lead Posted Wednesday at 10:37 Sounds like us, but it's our owners that put us under said restrictions, not the governing body..... 4 Quote
wilsdenrover Posted Wednesday at 10:55 Posted Wednesday at 10:55 24 minutes ago, arbitro said: As it states 'fee restriction' I took that to mean they can sign players but maybe only free or low value signings. I recall something similar with us when we were under an embargo and I think there was also a limit we could pay new signings. 1 Quote
roverandout Posted Wednesday at 11:23 Posted Wednesday at 11:23 (edited) Sheffield utd replacing wilder with a manager that failed badly at Southampton is a bizarre appointment Edit. I got him confused with the Southampton manager from last season. Edited Wednesday at 11:25 by roverandout Quote
arbitro Posted Wednesday at 11:49 Posted Wednesday at 11:49 49 minutes ago, wilsdenrover said: The only exception to that ruling would be if the club had fewer than 23 players in their senior playing squad, in which case they would be allowed to bring in a free transfer or free loan without breaking the embargo. 1 Quote
chaddyrovers Posted Wednesday at 14:30 Posted Wednesday at 14:30 16 hours ago, roversfan99 said: Doesnt mean that the decision was correct. I mentioned before about a growing trend of data nerds overruling managers who actually know what intangibles are requires to build successful teams. Xg and the rest of it wont factor that in. I know you will say "but thats how football is now" but I am questioning whether its always a good thing. Like I have said that its isn't a surprise that Sheffield United new owners want to now start changing things and bring in their own head coach choice which is most likely after a change of ownership, very rare it doesn't after a change of ownership. I don't know alot what king data lead approach they want to bring or whether they done this at other sports clubs if they owned any or other businesses. 16 hours ago, roversfan99 said: Wilder is a bell end. based on what? 16 hours ago, davulsukur said: They'd already spent £30m, I'm guessing they expected more than a 21st place finish. (Disclaimer, I don't know the full in and outside of their business) Sellas kept them up and that was the aim when they were bottom of the league when he took charge of his first game and in the dug out. I think Hull should have build on what they were doing under Sellas, instead Hull owner went his own way and he did it previously with Rosenier sacking and last season was mess for them 3 hours ago, arbitro said: As it states 'fee restriction' I took that to mean they can sign players but maybe only free or low value signings. I recall something similar with us when we were under an embargo and I think there was also a limit we could pay new signings. When we went into an embargo under Bowyer we could only sign free agent under 10k and loan players in but no loan fee could be paid. I think Rovers should be looking to sign Anthony Musaba from Sheffield Wednesday who we could probably get cheap around 1m for the right wing signing we need Quote
roversfan99 Posted Wednesday at 14:38 Posted Wednesday at 14:38 Im sure theres a player who has just been relegated somewhere in Europe that Rudy can snap up on half the wages. Quote
Upside Down Posted Wednesday at 19:56 Posted Wednesday at 19:56 10 hours ago, Tugayisgod said: Another clown who should be nowhere near ownership of a football club . Wednesday banned from making ANY signings for the next three windows. Still nowhere near as bad as venkys. I'd still swap with them all day long. Quote
SBlue Posted Wednesday at 20:03 Posted Wednesday at 20:03 4 minutes ago, Upside Down said: Still nowhere near as bad as venkys. I'd still swap with them all day long. Can’t agree I’m afraid, he’s probably the only one in the EFL that’s as bad if not worse, have a good look into it and the timeline. There’s serious worry for SWFC as a going concern right now. Something’s got to give. Quote
Upside Down Posted Wednesday at 20:22 Posted Wednesday at 20:22 17 minutes ago, SBlue said: Can’t agree I’m afraid, he’s probably the only one in the EFL that’s as bad if not worse, have a good look into it and the timeline. There’s serious worry for SWFC as a going concern right now. Something’s got to give. Exactly, it will come to an end. I'd take that right now. Venkys on the other hand will just continue with what they've done for the last 15 years. 4 Quote
Mattyblue Posted yesterday at 12:12 Posted yesterday at 12:12 (edited) Yep, no doubt he’s been a disgraceful owner. However, you can forsee a day when he’s fucked off, whereas here… Edited yesterday at 12:12 by Mattyblue 3 Quote
Tomphil2 Posted yesterday at 17:26 Posted yesterday at 17:26 Charlton, Bolton even Reading will catch up then pass us in the coming years the way it's going. 2 1 Quote
bazza Posted 9 hours ago Posted 9 hours ago 17 hours ago, Tomphil2 said: Charlton, Bolton even Reading will catch up then pass us in the coming years the way it's going. And Blackpool 1 Quote
Tomphil2 Posted 5 hours ago Posted 5 hours ago 21 hours ago, Tomphil2 said: Charlton, Bolton even Reading will catch up then pass us in the coming years the way it's going. Now Mr Thumbs down if i said that about Coventry and Ipswich a few years ago you'd have had the same reaction. Quote
chaddyrovers Posted 5 hours ago Posted 5 hours ago (edited) 11 minutes ago, Tomphil2 said: Now Mr Thumbs down if i said that about Coventry and Ipswich a few years ago you'd have had the same reaction. Coventry and Ipswich were a PL clubs when I started following Rovers in 1992, They aren't small clubs. They have been poorly run in the past but not small clubs. Edited 5 hours ago by chaddyrovers Quote
Tomphil2 Posted 5 hours ago Posted 5 hours ago 1 minute ago, chaddyrovers said: Coventry and Ipswich were a PL clubs when I started following Rovers in 1992, They aren't small clubs. They have been poorly run in the past but not small clubs. Were Rovers a small club when you started following or where they bigger than those two ? Were Reading and Bolton small clubs when you started following Rovers ? Quote
chaddyrovers Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago 4 minutes ago, Tomphil2 said: Were Rovers a small club when you started following or where they bigger than those two ? Were Reading and Bolton small clubs when you started following Rovers ? My dad was Massive Rovers Supporter and I following him in being a Rovers Supporter around 91 and that campaign was our promotion to the newly formed Premier League and still proud to be one now. Those early years were the best ever following by Souness and Hughes time here Quote
wilsdenrover Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago Ah the answer a different question to the one you were asked approach - nice. 3 Quote
Tomphil2 Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago 15 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said: My dad was Massive Rovers Supporter and I following him in being a Rovers Supporter around 91 and that campaign was our promotion to the newly formed Premier League and still proud to be one now. Those early years were the best ever following by Souness and Hughes time here A career in politics awaits you pal. Quote
rigger Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago (edited) 1 hour ago, Tomphil2 said: Were Rovers a small club when you started following or where they bigger than those two ? Were Reading and Bolton small clubs when you started following Rovers ? When I started going Bolton always kicked our arses, 1970 onwards. The only time I remember bettering them was when Fraz scored at Burnden, but we got battered on Manchester road. Edited 3 hours ago by rigger Quote
Old Rover Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago (edited) yeah, when in 1978 the crowd was over 27000 , not many were supporting us, things change, a few years later we won the league , ups and downs, the biggest home support i remember-after we won the league cup in 2002, against Fulham, 10 pound a ticket , we also got 26700 against Oxford, in 2018 guess what, 10 pound a ticket Edited 1 hour ago by Old Rover Quote
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