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52 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

Alan Nixon saying that Rovers are close to sorting out a new contract for Brittain so us looking to sign Small from Charlton less important. Derby are battling Rovers for Batth signature

 

I'd be very surprised if they offer Brittain a deal that's worth signing.

When was the last time we managed to get somebody to sign a new contract who was entering there final year?

Just doesn't happen here.

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Posted
1 hour ago, chaddyrovers said:

Alan Nixon saying that Rovers are close to sorting out a new contract for Brittain so us looking to sign Small from Charlton less important. Derby are battling Rovers for Batth signature

 

Be great news if we get Brittain tied down to a new contract. 

We'll need a backup, if Duru isn't considered good enough. 

Posted (edited)
15 minutes ago, davulsukur said:

Be great news if we get Brittain tied down to a new contract. 

We'll need a backup, if Duru isn't considered good enough. 

Assuming Brittain is still here next season, then Duru needs another loan

I think it is more of a case that he will need proper minutes, and wouldn't get that if he is playing second fiddle to Brittain.  

 

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For me, Brittain is the best player at the club and so having him on a new contract would be my first priority, closely followed by the same for Tronstadt and Travis. No point looking to sign others when we may then need to recruit into those positions as well. 

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Posted

Look Danny we want you to stay you are one of our main men and will play every week as long as fit and in form.  Here's the same wage for another year and we'll give an option for another year on top for you as a bonus if you hit x number of starts.

Nothing simpler as that but you can bet your backside there is some low balling going on or talks have stalled altogether due to the Indian court situation.

If Derby are offering thousands more then we'd have to swallow it but i really can't see them taking that risk so football wise hes no need to leave here but he has to be made to feel wanted obviously.

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They're after more free credit by dripping Nixon stuff. 

Close to, aiming to, trying to, talking to, will be sorted soon honest, all meaningless. We've heard it dozens of times before.

All that matters is actually getting pen to paper on a proper contract extension.

Brittain, Travis, Tronstad, Hyam, Dolan, Carter and Batth needed them months ago. I suspect some are already too late now and the others we are rapidly running out of time on as agents and rivals get busy.

Rovers will not be getting a shred of credit from me for claims of being close to something. I've seen this one before and it ends with 'admin errors' or 'changes of heart' or something unforeseen changing the situation.

As I've said many a time. Feeding Nixon and the rest talk of trying is free, easy and meaningless.

Actually getting stuff done, deals complete is tricky and costly.

We're good at the former, and have totally failed on the latter.

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Posted
18 minutes ago, ElTwis said:

For me, Brittain is the best player at the club and so having him on a new contract would be my first priority, closely followed by the same for Tronstadt and Travis. No point looking to sign others when we may then need to recruit into those positions as well. 

Says it all. 

Brittain is decent. Better going forward than defensively but also picks up knocks/strains regularly...

and he's our best player. 

Whoop.  

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Posted (edited)
16 minutes ago, Tomphil2 said:

Look Danny we want you to stay you are one of our main men and will play every week as long as fit and in form.  Here's the same wage for another year and we'll give an option for another year on top for you as a bonus if you hit x number of starts.

Nothing simpler as that but you can bet your backside there is some low balling going on or talks have stalled altogether due to the Indian court situation.

If Derby are offering thousands more then we'd have to swallow it but i really can't see them taking that risk so football wise hes no need to leave here but he has to be made to feel wanted obviously.

According to Jackson, both Bath & Weimann signed up for less than market value last summer to prove their fitness/worth/etc.  So any new deal for them will need to be on higher wages

"Batth and Weimann both signed on low-cost contracts last year, such was their enthusiasm to join and prove their value. Having done that in excellent debut seasons, any new deals would need to be a fairer reflection of their Championship experience and pedigree."

So yes, negotiations have stalled due to low balling them and also, given that they are on "low cost contracts", it is entirely possible that Derby are offering much more

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Posted
10 minutes ago, KentExile said:

According to Jackson, both Bath & Weimann signed up for less than market value last summer to prove their fitness.  So any new deal for them will need to be on higher wages

"Batth and Weimann both signed on low-cost contracts last year, such was their enthusiasm to join and prove their value. Having done that in excellent debut seasons, any new deals would need to be a fairer reflection of their Championship experience and pedigree."

So yes, negotiations have stalled due to low balling them and also, given that they are on "low cost contracts", it is entirely possible that Derby are offering much more

Yet the previous talk also mentioned a policy of higher wage short term contracts for experience being Eustaces preferred method ?

Seems Jackson has done a bit of a 360 on that now.

I think Weimann will have been on a decent wedge at Bristol and i'm sure there'd have been other interest in him so i'm not sure he'll have signed for peanuts to come all the way up here from down there.

Batth maybe a bit different given his career trajectory was on its way down - something i hope he remembers when Rovers rescued him - but similarly he'll have been on good wages at Norwich previously.

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There were claims that Eustace was at the end of his tether last summer and ready to walk, and the stooges buckled and allowed him to bring in Batth, Weimann and McFadzean to give him the experience he wanted and ensure he didn't quit.

This time around we've heard Gestede's textbook talk about developing players and the younger end of the scale. I suspect Ismael has less interest in experience and is going to be less forceful when it comes to signings.

We ain't giving them a pay rise when a year older and the stooges will fancy not paying them from June to August and then hope they renew at the last minute.

 

Posted (edited)
10 minutes ago, Tomphil2 said:

Yet the previous talk also mentioned a policy of higher wage short term contracts for experience being Eustaces preferred method ?

Seems Jackson has done a bit of a 360 on that now.

I think Weimann will have been on a decent wedge at Bristol and i'm sure there'd have been other interest in him so i'm not sure he'll have signed for peanuts to come all the way up here from down there.

Batth maybe a bit different given his career trajectory was on its way down - something i hope he remembers when Rovers rescued him - but similarly he'll have been on good wages at Norwich previously.

Weimann was training with Rovers last summer as there was no interest in him.  Batth had spent a year hardly playing for Norwich

it is obvious what happened, Rovers picked up both on low cost deals, and are hoping that they can't be bothered with the hassle of moving and/or the possibility they may not play as often as they would be at Rovers

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Posted
20 minutes ago, Gamst said:

Danny Batth was imo one of the main reasons we did so well last season. Tying him down to another year is the most obvious decision ever and clearly he deserves to be paid according to his influence. Just get it done for the love of God. 

Yes, look how results went when he did not play.

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Posted (edited)
3 hours ago, davulsukur said:

Be great news if we get Brittain tied down to a new contract. 

We'll need a backup, if Duru isn't considered good enough. 

If we have these targets of x thousand minutes for Academy graduates (i.e. generally filling the back end of the squad with Academy players to keep costs down) then Duru has to be lined up as the #2 RB, surely? 

You've always got the fallback option of Carter at RB (I know he's much better at CB, but he can play RB in the Championship) if the Duru experiment fails and you need someone to hold down the fort before strengthening in January (try typing that with a straight face!).

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Posted
3 hours ago, MarkBRFC said:

I'd be very surprised if they offer Brittain a deal that's worth signing.

When was the last time we managed to get somebody to sign a new contract who was entering there final year?

Just doesn't happen here.

We see won't we. I think Brittain and Tronstad will sign new contracts here

3 hours ago, davulsukur said:

Be great news if we get Brittain tied down to a new contract. 

We'll need a backup, if Duru isn't considered good enough. 

Duru should be the back up as he should have been this season

2 hours ago, JHRover said:

There were claims that Eustace was at the end of his tether last summer and ready to walk, and the stooges buckled and allowed him to bring in Batth, Weimann and McFadzean to give him the experience he wanted and ensure he didn't quit.

Eustace last summer wanted signings sooner than he got but we made a number of them at the end of July in Gueye, Ohashi, Weimann, Batth, Macfaz. 

2 hours ago, JHRover said:

This time around we've heard Gestede's textbook talk about developing players and the younger end of the scale. I suspect Ismael has less interest in experience and is going to be less forceful when it comes to signings.

We ain't giving them a pay rise when a year older and the stooges will fancy not paying them from June to August and then hope they renew at the last minute.

What is wrong with bring through our young players whilst making a number of signings that fit the profile wants like pace wide or Box to Box midfielder? 

Who says Ismael will be less forceful when it comes to signings? 

Posted (edited)
2 hours ago, Gamst said:

Danny Batth was imo one of the main reasons we did so well last season. Tying him down to another year is the most obvious decision ever and clearly he deserves to be paid according to his influence. Just get it done for the love of God. 

The only one of the 'experienced players' we will miss in my opinion.  Better terms should have been sorted by January.  

Can't imagine we can afford or will offer anywhere near what he'll get at other clubs on the back of the season he's had. 

 

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