2025 Summer Transfer Thread. 😂

[M_B]

1 hour ago, roversfan99 said:

The main reason that we are always slow off the mark signing players is because of how the club is run.

Your last 4 points are valid ones though. I wouldn't criticise Chaddy or anyone else for making them. 

[Rogerb]

4 hours ago, Wing Wizard Windy Miller said:

As far as I can tell, the owners haven't put money in for a significant period of time.  june 2023.

[chaddyrovers]

3 hours ago, roversfan99 said:

The usual pattern.

You say early doors that we need x players in by pre season. You genuinely believe that each summer will be different.

You then slowly go through each of the same reasons and excuses when that doesnt happen. You highlight other teams that havent done business. You ask which players that have gone elsewhere would have actually been good signings here. You say that Premier League teams are still evaluating their players. You say we shouldnt rush and its all about the quality, and to judge at the end of the window.

here an article outlined when last season championship transfers were done and this time last year, there were nine deals confirmed in the Championship waiting to be officially processed when the window opened on June 14, including Stoke triggering a relegation release clause for Viktor Johansson - but then there were only 21 more before the start of July.

Ninety per cent of all signings in the Championship were announced after July 1. In fact, 50 per cent of deals were done after August 1, nearly 40 per cent were done after the first game of the season on August 10 and 25 per cent in the last two days of the window.

When Championship transfers get done as Stoke City wait for first signing - Stoke-on-Trent Live

Yes I do think Ismael was abit unrealistic in expect to have so much done by pre season training restart/Spanish training camp. I think we get a couple done by the Spanish training camp. 

2 hours ago, M_B said:

I can't help reading that summary and thinking it's quite sensible. 

exactly my point. 

People think clubs do the business early buy 50% of transfers were done in August as the link above reported. Some clubs get a couple of signings in early but rarely do you get all your business done so early. 

3 hours ago, Tomphil2 said:

How many times have you read/heard people saying i'm not renewing until they show some ambition or spend some money ?

And don't pretend you haven't for the sake of being pedantic that act has worn thin now.

If you don't think making decent signings will drive more ticket sales then you are truly lost.

and how many people actually do? not many by the sales figures after stage 1. 

What would drive sales is lower prices but new owners who want to rebuild the club, have proper coherent plan and invest in all areas of the club 

[chaddyrovers]

2 hours ago, davulsukur said:

Well, so much for Rudy suggesting this should be an exciting summer for the club.

blimey, we are only on the 7th of June

2 hours ago, roversfan99 said:

The main reason that we are always slow off the mark signing players is because of how the club is run.

I would suggest you see my previous reply to you

1 hour ago, Exiled_Rover said:

Will they? Wrexham and Birmingham aren't playing around. The three relegated teams will be stronger than us.

We'll be in a serious relegation battle without a clear couple of no-hopers to prop us up.

People said the same last summer and look at what happened. Far too people are going OTT so early. Have a chill pill guys

[Lancaster Rover]

Most deals are done after July 1st so players can claim their 1 month severance and come to a paying up agreement on their owed holiday pay, etc. Delaying signing till this date enables them to get a good signing/relocation fee in lieu of a months wages from their new club 

[bigbrandjohn]

Bit of a slow start to reach the 100 on the board. Reminds me of watching Boycott at the crease in a five day test at Trent Bridge. Solid but unspectacular. 

[bluebruce]

4 hours ago, roversfan99 said:

The usual pattern.

You say early doors that we need x players in by pre season. You genuinely believe that each summer will be different.

You then slowly go through each of the same reasons and excuses when that doesnt happen. You highlight other teams that havent done business. You ask which players that have gone elsewhere would have actually been good signings here. You say that Premier League teams are still evaluating their players. You say we shouldnt rush and its all about the quality, and to judge at the end of the window.

And then tells us to judge after 10 games, and then that any players who haven't been totally atrocious are good enough. Then says the next window will fix it and cycles through the exact same pattern in January.

[rigger]

38 minutes ago, bigbrandjohn said:

Bit of a slow start to reach the 100 on the board. Reminds me of watching Boycott at the crease in a five day test at Trent Bridge. Solid but unspectacular. 

At least Boycott kept the scoreboard ticking over.

[simongarnerisgod]

1 hour ago, bigbrandjohn said:

Bit of a slow start to reach the 100 on the board. Reminds me of watching Boycott at the crease in a five day test at Trent Bridge. Solid but unspectacular. 

we are more like chris tavare😀

[davulsukur]

1 hour ago, chaddyrovers said:

blimey, we are only on the 7th of June

I would suggest you see my previous reply to you

People said the same last summer and look at what happened. Far too people are going OTT so early. Have a chill pill guys

And already we've been in "advanced talks" with a player who's looking likely to move to Sunderland for a fee we were never getting to, our Captain is being linked with a move to fucking Wrexham, Brittain has been "close" to signing a new deal which still hasnt happened, Batth and Weimann are considering moves to Derby and the consistent issue of money and the owners court case hampering the club has already raised it's head, again.

[DutchRover]

Signings taking some time is perhaps forgivable, but to have not even agreed contracts with the players we retained (Batth, Weimann etc) is unacceptable. The club is just waiting for Eustace and Derby to offer them more so we don't have to pay them, and then the usual excuses will be trotted out.

If we wanted to keep them we would have signed the deals, same goes for Trav/Tronstad/Brittain. Instead we are low-balling because Venky's can't/won't give us any money. 

Frankly, the FA should open an investigation into the mismanagement of the club and the inability of the owners to fund the team. If they were made the go through the buyer process they would fail, and therefore should not be permitted to continue owning the club.

[chaddyrovers]

25 minutes ago, DutchRover said:

Frankly, the FA should open an investigation into the mismanagement of the club and the inability of the owners to fund the team. If they were made the go through the buyer process they would fail, and therefore should not be permitted to continue owning the club.

the FA and EFL will do nothing. As far as they are concerned Rovers are being run fine, selling players to meet the finances, no debt on the club, wages paid on times and all bills paid on time

[Tomphil2]

The first signing will come from left field anyway and be a name not even mentioned - or possibly heard of - highly likely to be from abroad.

 

[rigger]

10 minutes ago, Tomphil2 said:

The first signing will come from left field anyway and be a name not even mentioned - or possibly heard of - highly likely to be from abroad.

 

Rather that, than someone who is known, but is poor.

[Mercer]

21 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

the FA and EFL will do nothing. As far as they are concerned Rovers are being run fine, selling players to meet the finances, no debt on the club, wages paid on times and all bills paid on time

No debt on the club!?!?

What do you think the £135millionish is shown in the football clubs accounts owed to VLL and the £15millionish bank overdraft!?!?

Someone posted Middlesbrough will appoint a new manager before we sign a new player.  I will go a step further and state they will appoint a new manager and sign at least 1 new player before we sign anyone.

Many Rovers fans think the club is fecked and are sick to the back teeth of being fed, IMO, bullsh1t.

As I've said before Chaddy, stop making excuses for the club and stop trying to defend the indefensible.

[Tomphil2]

11 minutes ago, rigger said:

Rather that, than someone who is known, but is poor.

 

Aye Yuki and Ribero came out of nowhere and have done good but it's the Suhail and Rudy roadshow now so we'll have to see what transpires, if anything.

[RevidgeBlue]

2 hours ago, simongarnerisgod said:

we are more like chris tavare😀

With Mike Brearley at the other end.

[simongarnerisgod]

massive concern for me is the fact we don`t even appear to be scouting lower league players at an age where they are going improve and we can sell them on,is`nt that the model we are supposed to be following???if it is`nt then we bloody well should be

[RevidgeBlue]

8 minutes ago, simongarnerisgod said:

massive concern for me is the fact we don`t even appear to be scouting lower league players at an age where they are going improve and we can sell them on,is`nt that the model we are supposed to be following???if it is`nt then we bloody well should be

It's stating the bleedin' obvious but if you want to be self sufficient you have to speculate a bit on fees to accumulate.

We don't seem willing to do the former therefore have no chance of achieving the latter.

[roversfan99]

3 hours ago, chaddyrovers said:

blimey, we are only on the 7th of June

I would suggest you see my previous reply to you

People said the same last summer and look at what happened. Far too people are going OTT so early. Have a chill pill guys

You are just echoing Jackson's article and he is often just a bit of a club spokesperson.

Other teams may have changed league or have had delays changing managers etc. We havent been in either bracket yet still almost always operate with delays. That is because of how terribly the club is run. I dont know if it is true that Suhail is in India but if so I bet the budget hasnt even been confirmed. This is a common theme here, our club isnt just in line with the standard, its behind.

But its about what you post, the same patterns. If you are so keen to point out that so many transfers are not done for pre season, then why every season do you suggest that we should be getting a certain number when you know it wont happen, before then gaslighting people as if you werent the main one asking for them in the first place? 

Surely a better stance at the start of the window would be to say that you dont expect anyone in for pre season as many transfers are done afterwards? 

[roversfan99]

4 hours ago, M_B said:

Your last 4 points are valid ones though. I wouldn't criticise Chaddy or anyone else for making them. 

But why have such high expectations calling for x and y by pre season? When you factor in those things, and most importantly the terrible way our club is run, surely you would have little to no hope of anything being done by then.

Also, speed in getting deals done and making the right signings arent mutually exclusive. 

[oneandycrawford]

2 hours ago, simongarnerisgod said:

we are more like chris tavare😀

Was at a one day international at OT when Tavare was batting. He was so slow we were convinced the opposition were trying to make sure they didn't get him out 

Ended up with the crowd shouting at his partner (might have been Gooch) to run him out!

[simongarnerisgod]

33 minutes ago, oneandycrawford said:

Was at a one day international at OT when Tavare was batting. He was so slow we were convinced the opposition were trying to make sure they didn't get him out 

Ended up with the crowd shouting at his partner (might have been Gooch) to run him out!

did`nt he take 6 hours to make 80 in one test match😀

[M_B]

2 hours ago, roversfan99 said:

But why have such high expectations calling for x and y by pre season? When you factor in those things, and most importantly the terrible way our club is run, surely you would have little to no hope of anything being done by then.

Also, speed in getting deals done and making the right signings arent mutually exclusive. 

It's the Gestede show now, I'm prepared to see how he does, putting timescales on transfers is a bit silly in my opinion. 

I'm also not fixated about paying transfer fees,If the recruitment staff can do their job properly. 

 

[roversfan99]

26 minutes ago, M_B said:

It's the Gestede show now, I'm prepared to see how he does, putting timescales on transfers is a bit silly in my opinion. 

I'm also not fixated about paying transfer fees,If the recruitment staff can do their job properly. 

 

If we dont have the possibility of paying transfer fees then obviously we massively reduce the quality available to us. There isnt a 100% correlation between cost and quality, but the less you have, the harder it becomes. It isnt a vain point of principle, and to be quite honest there is no excuse not to have money available for fees.

Its not about putting timescales on things either, but the sooner players are in, the better. Thats why Ismael is so keen. It gets players a full pre season whereby they not only miss a few games having been signed after the season starts, but you have the majority of your team from the start of an important pre season both fitness wise and in terms of the manager getting his tactical ideas across. You can sign quality early in the window if you are run properly, sadly we arent.

That being said, if you dont place any importance at all on when deals are done, then fine. At least it wont lead to you saying you want a certain number in by a certain point yet when that doesnt happen, still going around and dismissing other peoples criticisms contrary to that earlier demand.

The fact that it is in anyway a "Gestede show" scares me and the vast majority.