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Posted
3 hours ago, roversfan99 said:

I am also well aware that the main reason that we as a club are particularly slow in getting transfers done is because of how we are run.

Do you actually read the article I post that 50% of transfers are done in August? 

We have been slow last year but the year before we made 3 signings very quickly in Ennis, Tronstad and Sigurdsson. The year before we were slow due to GB and JDT being appointed late

3 hours ago, roversfan99 said:

We dont have a managerial change or a change in division like numerous other clubs do which will slow down their transfer dealings comparatively.

 

3 hours ago, roversfan99 said:

I would be (pleasantly) surprised if we have any deals done by the start of pre season. We should be able to get some deals done by then, not all of our business but a reasonable chunk, but I dont see it happening.

Well let's well and see before passing such a judgement perhaps?.

What a reasonable chuck? 2? 3? 4? 5? 

3 hours ago, roversfan99 said:

But its you that specifies how many you want and expect for pre season who is then the most keen of all to deflect and make excuses when it doesnt happen year after year. Without ever acknowledging the main reason which is us being owned by Venkys and run by imbeciles. You also shout down any others who criticise our slowness as if they are being unreasonable.

I would always want a couple of signings in early but that's ain't always possible for a range of reasons. From the free agent market but the foreign market. 

Before we comment on our slowness in the window why don't you judge after pre season starts not now. You going to look rather silly now if we make a couple of signings before pre season. You are far too quick to judge 

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Posted
6 minutes ago, roversfan99 said:

Looks like a player who has played some games at left back and has barely ever scored.

Rudy doesnt half love a player from a relegated Belgian side if its true.

So you know this player then? Does he have pace? 

We signed Brittain and Szmodics from relegation Championship teams and both been excellent signings 

Posted
5 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

So you know this player then? Does he have pace? 

We signed Brittain and Szmodics from relegation Championship teams and both been excellent signings 

There is no need to be so defensive. I have never heard of him no, I am just saying that IF he signs, that it would be the second time that Gestede has signed someone that has been relegated from the Belgian league. I didnt pass comment on my opinion of that.

Our club is run terribly and more often than not, we are slow, there are often delays getting budgets agreed etc, beyond the usual fact that a big chunk of transfers are done beyond the start of pre season. We were particularly slow last season too. Broughton seemed to be more proactive both in terms of transfers and contract extensions but has now gone.

My comments on us being slow was more of a general comment under this terrible ownership and board. You dont have to constantly plead for patience and defend the club constantly, often missing the point, so repeatedly. 

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Posted (edited)
13 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

So you know this player then? Does he have pace? 

My lad says his pace is 81 on Fifa if that means anything.

If he joins hopefully it's as an attacking player rather than another left back.

Who knows with this circus though.

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Posted
8 minutes ago, roversfan99 said:

There is no need to be so defensive. I have never heard of him no, I am just saying that IF he signs, that it would be the second time that Gestede has signed someone that has been relegated from the Belgian league. I didnt pass comment on my opinion of that.

firstly, I ain't be defensive one bit but trying to explained when transfer happened last summer and not a lot of signings are made in May/first week of June. 

So you don't know anything about this player then. 

8 minutes ago, roversfan99 said:

Our club is run terribly and more often than not, we are slow, there are often delays getting budgets agreed etc, beyond the usual fact that a big chunk of transfers are done beyond the start of pre season. We were particularly slow last season too. Broughton seemed to be more proactive both in terms of transfers and contract extensions but has now gone.

We were slow last season cos you have complete overhaul of the recruitment and scouting team. Park, Gestede and Owen came in and we still signed some quality players. 

 

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Posted

I don't rate Ismael particularly but do we think it's round about now he's starting to realise he's been sold a pup?

Probably needs the work in the meantime though until he can find something else.

 

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Posted
32 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

firstly, I ain't be defensive one bit but trying to explained when transfer happened last summer and not a lot of signings are made in May/first week of June. 

So you don't know anything about this player then. 

 

Chaddy generally I don't get involved in this bollocks, because half the time the people arguing profusely with you are the other side of the same coin, but Sammie and Brittain were top performers in their relegated teams. This guy isn't a top performer. He's left wing with 5 goal involvements in a season.

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Posted
45 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

firstly, I ain't be defensive one bit but trying to explained when transfer happened last summer and not a lot of signings are made in May/first week of June. 

So you don't know anything about this player then. 

We were slow last season cos you have complete overhaul of the recruitment and scouting team. Park, Gestede and Owen came in and we still signed some quality players. 

 

So you think aside from one off changes to our recruitment team, which seem to happen far too often but ignoring that.

You think that otherwise, there are no issues in how we are run and the timing of our transfers isnt affected by our owners and board, for example meeting well after the season ends often in India to sort the budget?

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Things will start to move one way or the other after June 30th when several first team contracts expire:

- Domestic clubs can make official offers to sign Dolan, Weimann, Batth on a free. I'm dicounting whatever compensation fee we might get from Dolan since his current market valuation will probably exceed that by at least 5x.

- Rival Championship clubs will probably make cheeky bids for any of Travis, Tronstad or Brittain to see if we are in desperate need of cash. I bet a lot of the teams are alerted of our situation given what happened to Eustace and might decide to raid the club for cheap assets. Any of the newcomers Wrexham or Birmingham can see it as an "easy" way of getting proven, experienced players at this level without paying over the top.

Good deals are often done early in the window to avoid competing bids later on. Desperate (and often poor) deals are done later in the window when your primary targets have decided to join another club. We often act late because:

- We are looking for the cheapest deals possible, not necessarily the best ones. 

- We can't offer decent wages to free agents because that will reduce whatever transfer budget we might operate within.

- Transfer budget will remain constant regardless of player sales, meaning quality of squad is likely to decrease as the seasons go by.

- We seems to operate on a salary transfer budget rather than having actual transfer money available to spend, meaning we have to sell players first before buying any. Happened last season with the sales of e.g. Gallagher and Wahlstedt for Gueye and Toth.

- If we sell a highly-rated player relatively late in the window, we often fail to find a suitable replacement due to the budget constraints mentioned previously (examples: Szmodics and Wharton).

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Posted
20 minutes ago, Ricceh said:

Chaddy generally I don't get involved in this bollocks, because half the time the people arguing profusely with you are the other side of the same coin, but Sammie and Brittain were top performers in their relegated teams. This guy isn't a top performer. He's left wing with 5 goal involvements in a season.

Those 2 were also relegated from the league we are currently in, and Brittain in particular had shown that he was very capable at this level. The question is how inferior the Belgian league is, we signed Gueye who had also been relegated from that level and he has struggled.

Obviously none of us know who this player is, or if he will even sign. So we dont know if he is one of the better players for his current team. The curious thing would be what type of player he is. He seems to have played a mixture of left back/wing back/left midfield, and he clearly isnt a wide man who has offered much of a goal threat. We need attacking players who can improve our attacking threat which let us down last year. On paper and on the face of it, it seems unclear whether this guy would do that.

Posted (edited)
1 hour ago, MarkBRFC said:

My lad says his pace is 81 on Fifa if that means anything.

 

Dolan and Hedges are 79, which tells you all you need to know.

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Posted
31 minutes ago, Polky said:

Jobe Bellingham being sold to Dortmund for £32m including add-ons.

We sold Wharton for £22m including add-ons, fuck off Venkys!

If that is true, we should get Mowbray back as chief scout, the man can spot a player that is for sure. 

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Posted
1 hour ago, MarkBRFC said:

My lad says his pace is 81 on Fifa if that means anything.

If he joins hopefully it's as an attacking player rather than another left back.

Who knows with this circus though.

I re kon that's how they decide how good players are, just have a quick look on fifa 🤣🤣

Posted (edited)

Still got a year on his contract so will be costing us. Seems like a flexible player which I like and I presume is being signed as competition for LB or LW instead of starting...Certainly not a player to be judging G/A stats like im seeing on X...If that's the case then Rothwell and Cantwell are SHITE. 

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Posted
23 minutes ago, Gav said:

If that is true, we should get Mowbray back as chief scout, the man can spot a player that is for sure. 

I can counter that with a list as long as my arm of crap players he brought in for us. 

Posted
20 minutes ago, roversfan99 said:

Elliott Jackson has said we are "working on" a deal for De Neve.

'Working on'  is below 'advance talks' on the scale as far as I'm concerned. So we'll still be talking about this lad in a month if our previous locally reported transfer news is anything to go by

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Posted
1 hour ago, Gav said:

If that is true, we should get Mowbray back as chief scout, the man can spot a player that is for sure. 

Mowbray had minimal input and say on the transfers at Sunderland.

He said as much in a few interviews he has done since leaving, also pressured to give certain players minutes 

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