2025 Summer Transfer Thread. 😂

[Emerald Isle Rover]

33 minutes ago, roversfan99 said:

The most probable reason for him not to sign here is financial. 

He had 18 months left on a deal signed when he had yet to really establish himself, so safe to say he was on peanuts. Had we offered him a competitive Championship wage then it wouldnt have made sense not to sign. 

A narrative has been created that he is greedy and big headed which suits the club but seems to me a little unfounded. It isnt greedy to want to be paid what you feel like you deserve.

I don’t think he’s being greedy I think him/or his agent are overreaching in terms of who they think might be interested in him. Prem league club well I’d be very surprised 

a recently relegated club because he’s free maybe but as stated the only ones linked were not overly inspiring but again all could easily pay more than what we have offered but I’d say won’t be 20k either 

[Tyrone Shoelaces]

50 minutes ago, roversfan99 said:

But equally, should we be grateful just because we arent one of 2 clubs not to be under embargo and restrictions? That is a low bar.

Its obviously down to personal opinion but I dont understand fully trusting this current (an ever changing part of our club) recruitment set up. Im not saying that a strong distrust is necessary, but at best the jury is out for me. Last seasons higher than expected position was built on a very talented (and now departed manager) getting the best out of a core of predominantly pre existing players signed under other regimes, Brittain/Hyam/Tronstad by Broughton, Dolan by Mowbray, Travis obviously as an academy graduate and then Batth who to be fair was part of last seasons recruitment, albeit had Eustace's prints all over it.

There are a lot of signings made under Gestede that at best are yet to prove themselves. 3 cost £1m or at least close to, Kargbo only signed mid way through and got injured so we dont really know either way. Toth only played a few games and didnt have much to do in them so again we dont really know. Gueye we have the most evidence on, only 6 goals and not looking up to it most of the time does not bode well. Cantwell was a high profile signing and he struggled. Ohashi is nothing remarkable but he certainly is a very useful player and more than value for money to be fair. Batth was very good, Beck was good, Ribieiro ok and the rest, best not to say.

I dont see how that body of evidence leans to having total trust in this recruitment setup personally. Some of them may go on to prove to be really shrewd signings, but at this stage I personally cant understand having full faith.

Have you forgotten about Dennis ? What a good signing thst was.

[Dreams of 1995]

55 minutes ago, roversfan99 said:

But equally, should we be grateful just because we arent one of 2 clubs not to be under embargo and restrictions? That is a low bar.

Its obviously down to personal opinion but I dont understand fully trusting this current (an ever changing part of our club) recruitment set up. Im not saying that a strong distrust is necessary, but at best the jury is out for me. Last seasons higher than expected position was built on a very talented (and now departed manager) getting the best out of a core of predominantly pre existing players signed under other regimes, Brittain/Hyam/Tronstad by Broughton, Dolan by Mowbray, Travis obviously as an academy graduate and then Batth who to be fair was part of last seasons recruitment, albeit had Eustace's prints all over it.

There are a lot of signings made under Gestede that at best are yet to prove themselves. 3 cost £1m or at least close to, Kargbo only signed mid way through and got injured so we dont really know either way. Toth only played a few games and didnt have much to do in them so again we dont really know. Gueye we have the most evidence on, only 6 goals and not looking up to it most of the time does not bode well. Cantwell was a high profile signing and he struggled. Ohashi is nothing remarkable but he certainly is a very useful player and more than value for money to be fair. Batth was very good, Beck was good, Ribieiro ok and the rest, best not to say.

I dont see how that body of evidence leans to having total trust in this recruitment setup personally. Some of them may go on to prove to be really shrewd signings, but at this stage I personally cant understand having full faith.

Of course you don’t. That’s your vibe. Some are glass half full, you smash the glass on the floor.

You can reply back to me to say that criticising you of negativity is stifling debate but I don’t care. Your posts are certainly slanted to the negative - like it or not. It must be your mindset. Some people are like that. I work with blokes who the moment something out of the ordinary happens they panic and they think everything is going to shit. It’s part of life’s rich tapestry.

I think both Gueye and Ohashi have improved our squad. The year before we were solely relying on Szmodics. This year the goals spread. It would be wonderful if we found another Sammie but they are few and far between for the money we spend.

In general, the proof is in the pudding. Consistently we have been in the bottom 6 for spending but we are challenging for the top 6. That has to be down to the recruitment. You don’t need to understand it because as you say, it is personal opinion. You were talking very positively about other teams’ business this season. Apart from Birmingham City this season - I don’t understand it. It seems, the players we miss are good ens, the players we get, we have “rightful doubts”

I have never said we have to be grateful. It is just a forewarning to those that big up others’ business - spending money doesn’t equate to success

[London blue]

I always find being condescending as hell is a good way to get my point across, too.

[Scotty1991]

3 hours ago, Forever Blue said:

 

The fucking ego on this guy 🤣 he’ll never ever ever be good enough to play premier league football! Agent must be spinning some yarn!

[Madon]

Marwan Al-Sahafi, the Saudi player Rovers were linked with around a month ago is currently in Manchester.. 

Edited July 6 by Madon

[Exiled_Rover]

1 minute ago, Madon said:

Mohammed Al-Sahafi, the Saudi player Rovers were linked with around a month ago is currently in Manchester.. 

Transfermarkt tells me Mohammed Al-Sahafi is 49.

Marwan Al-Sahafi is the guy we've been linked with I think. 

[Madon]

Just now, Exiled_Rover said:

Transfermarkt tells me Mohammed Al-Sahafi is 49.

Marwan Al-Sahafi is the guy we've been linked with I think. 

Yep got the name wrong! 🤦🏼‍♂️ Edited.

[Exiled_Rover]

37 minutes ago, Dreams of 1995 said:

Of course you don’t. That’s your vibe. Some are glass half full, you smash the glass on the floor.

You can reply back to me to say that criticising you of negativity is stifling debate but I don’t care. Your posts are certainly slanted to the negative - like it or not. It must be your mindset. Some people are like that. I work with blokes who the moment something out of the ordinary happens they panic and they think everything is going to shit. It’s part of life’s rich tapestry.

I think both Gueye and Ohashi have improved our squad. The year before we were solely relying on Szmodics. This year the goals spread. It would be wonderful if we found another Sammie but they are few and far between for the money we spend.

In general, the proof is in the pudding. Consistently we have been in the bottom 6 for spending but we are challenging for the top 6. That has to be down to the recruitment. You don’t need to understand it because as you say, it is personal opinion. You were talking very positively about other teams’ business this season. Apart from Birmingham City this season - I don’t understand it. It seems, the players we miss are good ens, the players we get, we have “rightful doubts”

I have never said we have to be grateful. It is just a forewarning to those that big up others’ business - spending money doesn’t equate to success

We're in the bottom 6, if not lower, for spending (including wage) and are in the top 10 on performance. We're consistently miles away from the PL relegated sides though (bar Luton last season). 

Some of that is recruitment, a lot of it is down to coaching.

The frustration is nobody has asked us to spend big - just to be brave and bring that little bit of extra quality that would push us over the line into the Playoffs. A striker in JDT's first season would have done that, a CM and a winger in Eustace's second season would have done that. 

Alas here we are again begging for scraps. It's no way to live and surely you can understand why fans are incredibly frustrated. 

[roversfan99]

34 minutes ago, Dreams of 1995 said:

Of course you don’t. That’s your vibe. Some are glass half full, you smash the glass on the floor.

You can reply back to me to say that criticising you of negativity is stifling debate but I don’t care. Your posts are certainly slanted to the negative - like it or not. It must be your mindset. Some people are like that. I work with blokes who the moment something out of the ordinary happens they panic and they think everything is going to shit. It’s part of life’s rich tapestry.

I think both Gueye and Ohashi have improved our squad. The year before we were solely relying on Szmodics. This year the goals spread. It would be wonderful if we found another Sammie but they are few and far between for the money we spend.

In general, the proof is in the pudding. Consistently we have been in the bottom 6 for spending but we are challenging for the top 6. That has to be down to the recruitment. You don’t need to understand it because as you say, it is personal opinion. You were talking very positively about other teams’ business this season. Apart from Birmingham City this season - I don’t understand it. It seems, the players we miss are good ens, the players we get, we have “rightful doubts”

I have never said we have to be grateful. It is just a forewarning to those that big up others’ business - spending money doesn’t equate to success

I dont see why it always has to be boxed off as being positive or negative.

And I dont think my post about not implicitly trusting this particular recruitment team at this stage has to be perceived as a negative. When I listed the players, some like Kargbo and Toth have barely played yet so I am not saying that they are bad (or good) signings. With Cantwell, I am hoping that a full pre season leads to a much better season. My point was more that they (Gestede, Owen) havent yet (if they ever will, I dont know) made me comfortable enough to just blindly assume that they know exactly what they were doing. I think those comments have been perceived as a negative because you have the mindset that I am a negative individidual, so its confirmation bias.

Last season IMO was not really down to having a particularly successful transfer window. It was built on a very talented manager and players either recruited by people who have now left or that came through the academy.

I have praised certain bits of recruitment elsewhere, both in terms of speed and individual players, but with more foreign recruitment, a number of signings I dont know anything about.

And I dont think Gueye has been a good signing, 6 goals is hardly denting that Szmodics void and I dont think hes up to the level. Mind you, as our second choice striker he replaced Telalovic so I suppose he is an upgrade on him.

 

[RoversClitheroe]

14 minutes ago, Madon said:

Marwan Al-Sahafi, the Saudi player Rovers were linked with around a month ago is currently in Manchester.. 

Some pedigree lol

[J*B]

23 minutes ago, Madon said:

Marwan Al-Sahafi, the Saudi player Rovers were linked with around a month ago is currently in Manchester.. 

Extremely inexperienced with just one full season under his belt in which he played for the worst club in Belgium and had an average season. 

I suspect there’s traction in this one. 

[Theaxe15]

15 minutes ago, J*B said:

Extremely inexperienced with just one full season under his belt in which he played for the worst club in Belgium and had an average season. 

I suspect there’s traction in this one. 

Just Kargbo for the other side of the pitch. Attacks are going to end up down blind alleys more than a drunkard needing a piss

[roversfan99]

Our weakest position is out wide on the right. 

Thats where most of our resources go. I wouldn't be comfortable if he was our only signing there, if indeed he is even likely to join which seems speculative. We need someone who can come in and play regularly, big ask of someone with such minimal experience and at a low level.

[Mercer]

5 hours ago, Mercer said:

The fantasy list gets bigger and bigger leaving the gullible believing and salivating in their fools' paradise - Sagnan, Nade, Kapuadi, De Keersmaecker, Gassama, Pye etc.

Our market is the washed-up no other clubs want eg Forshaw and the cheap and cheerful, unproven and almost unheard of eg De Neve and Tavares. 

 

36 minutes ago, Madon said:

Marwan Al-Sahafi, the Saudi player Rovers were linked with around a month ago is currently in Manchester.. 

That's more like it for Rovers !!!

Another in the cheap and cheerful, unproven and almost unheard of category to go nicely with De Neve and Tavares. 

Barrel scraping of the highest order.

We really are fecked.

[BankEnd Rover]

Just now, Theaxe15 said:

Just Kargbo for the other side of the pitch. Attacks are going to end up down blind alleys more than a drunkard needing a piss

We've been watching Dolan for 3 years....we're used to it. 

[RevidgeBlue]

7 hours ago, rigger said:

I don't know anyone with the initials O K.

You're on form today!

Need something to lighten the mood after the latest round of unattainable targets we're only prepared to offer 50% of the asking price for, or not even make a bid at all.

[RevidgeBlue]

8 minutes ago, Mercer said:

 

That's more like it for Rovers !!!

Another in the cheap and cheerful, unproven and almost unheard of category to go nicely with De Neve and Tavares. 

Barrel scraping of the highest order.

We really are fecked.

Suspect you're spot on  unfortunately.

[simongarnerisgod]

7 minutes ago, Mercer said:

 

That's more like it for Rovers !!!

Another in the cheap and cheerful, unproven and almost unheard of category to go nicely with De Neve and Tavares. 

Barrel scraping of the highest order.

We really are fecked.

you buy cheap players from ****knows where and other clubs buy proven performers,one thing is certain,we`ll be relegated.the ****whits running the club are either hell bent on taking us down or they are so stupid they don`t realise what they are doing,love to know what these much vaunted new scouting appointments are doing,have they  been sidelined already,a la john parke,the only one who knew what he was doing

[RevidgeBlue]

6 hours ago, JBiz said:

It’s been the same since 2010 so I just try to remind myself that there is still a “husk” to support and, like last season - you never know. 1 point off playoffs? I wouldn’t call that another season of decline but my basic “goalposts” aka league position aren’t shared here.

Entirely down to having an exceptional head coach (Eustace) who like Thomasson we drove away.

[chaddyrovers]

5 hours ago, roversfan99 said:

I never said that we dont have interest in either player either. Hes a journalist, its in his best interests to try and make his potential stories as glamorous as possible to get people to pay him, as you do. Like any salesman.

Its one thing us having interest in them, but it was mentioned on here that he had said that we have numerous bids in. These stories suggest inquiries and interest rather than us actively having bids in, so he has oversold to draw people in. I dont have a problem with that, its something he regularly does.

So why say and I will quote yourself " from the big question marks over the authenticity of the interest" then? Do you have any inside info we aren't interest in either player? 

 

[FE123]

I think Al-Sahafi is a decent punt.

Only 21 plenty of room to improve.

6 ft 2 and clearly has pace - fits VI’s style.

Granted he’s only got 1 full season under his belt, but he only turned 21 in feb- surely rare to have more than that at his age.

[chaddyrovers]

20 minutes ago, roversfan99 said:

Our weakest position is out wide on the right. 

Thats where most of our resources go. I wouldn't be comfortable if he was our only signing there, if indeed he is even likely to join which seems speculative. We need someone who can come in and play regularly, big ask of someone with such minimal experience and at a low level.

so we should ignore other positions we need signing? 

we need another 4/5 signings yet

[roversfan99]

1 minute ago, chaddyrovers said:

So why say and I will quote yourself " from the big question marks over the authenticity of the interest" then? Do you have any inside info we aren't interest in either player? 

 

Obviously I dont know either way. Why would I?

But I also don't know if Alan Nixon knows either way. 

And before you dig it out, I don't need your list of players that your mate has claimed to reveal prior to signing. 

We may be interested, I will assume we are to some degree. Although I only care about whether they actually sign, and even he was only claiming inquiries.

[RevidgeBlue]

4 hours ago, Dreams of 1995 said:

Whilst we have the worst possible owners, we do have a shrewd and massively undervalued recruitment team. 

Nah we've HAD (past tense) 2 extremely capable head coaches over the last 2-3 seasons who've by and large  proved extremely adept at making a silk purse out of a How's ear.

Not sure we have that now.