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Posted (edited)
14 minutes ago, Mercer said:

You've left out Mikael Nade which was again ridiculous wishful thinking from Rovers.

Dropping the percentage by another 3%, we're now at just 30% signed; that's only among those strongly linked. Ten linked, three signed... shocking stats, though not surprising.

Rovers making 9 signings before pre-season? That’d be like winning the EuroMillions but then finding out it was only for matching four numbers considering the expected quality of those signings. 🀣

Ah, missed off Gassama too ... Drop it to 27%Β 

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Posted
12 minutes ago, roverblue said:

What an exciting summer its been so far Rudy and Pasha...

  • 3 random foreigners in for peanuts with no experience or pedigree on low wages
  • 5 first team championship experienced starters out plus all loanees saving a fortune in wages.
  • No contracts sorted for any of our 1st team
  • Sacked the CEO and made a load of backroom staff redundant
  • Sacked off the women's team

You are doing a fantastic job keep up the good work! Pretty soon we will have a cost budget to compete with Chorley FC and you can bask in the praise from our chicken overlords.

The amount of money they're making and saving at the expense of the squad is insane... even managed to get Β£750k for our last gaffer ffs.

The Venky's must be absolutely delighted.

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Posted

Dolan had an early period when he showed promise. He hadn't yet turned in his later performances that now make him attractive to other teams.

My conversation with him would have happened in his season #2 along the lines of:

"You obviously have great potential, one day you'll be well sought after. Right now though I need to think about the club. You'll grow from being here, you'll play a lot so I need to protect your value to us before putting in the work to grow you and raise your profile. Sign this."

If no:

"Then I'll have to ask you to start looking for another club as you won't be developing at our expense any more. You're in the U21 until you leave or reconsider".

"We like you a lot TD but that's how it is. Let me know what you decide by next week."

Something like that.

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Posted
1 hour ago, Emerald Isle Rover said:

Top fan - showing your true coloursΒ 

regardless of the venkys madness any β€˜fan’ who backs against the team quite frankly isn’t a fanΒ 

Insurance?Β 

A hedge against the cost of a season ticket? πŸ€”

Posted
12 minutes ago, AVE1875 said:

Dropping the percentage by another 3%, we're now at just 30% signed; that's only among those strongly linked. Ten linked, three signed... shocking stats, though not surprising.

Rovers making 9 signings before pre-season? That’d be like winning the EuroMillions but then finding out it was only for matching four numbers considering the expected quality of those signings. 🀣

Ah, missed off Gassama too ... Drop it to 27%Β 

Many of those links is just agent/clubtalk. Those who have signed was linked just a day/same day as signed.Β 

Some agent just throws their clients name out to hope off a better deal or another club throwing in a bid. Or a sellingclub hoping for a biddingwar.Β 

Many players have different agents for different areas. Some work with English club, some with other countries.Β 

Posted
3 minutes ago, TimmyJimmy said:

Dolan had an early period when he showed promise. He hadn't yet turned in his later performances that now make him attractive to other teams.

My conversation with him would have happened in his season #2 along the lines of:

"You obviously have great potential, one day you'll be well sought after. Right now though I need to think about the club. You'll grow from being here, you'll play a lot so I need to protect your value to us before putting in the work to grow you and raise your profile. Sign this."

If no:

"Then I'll have to ask you to start looking for another club as you won't be developing at our expense any more. You're in the U21 until you leave or reconsider".

"We like you a lot TD but that's how it is. Let me know what you decide by next week."

Something like that.

Afraid this doesn't work when we needed him to play 90% of games due to a death of competition.

Posted
2 hours ago, Emerald Isle Rover said:

Dolan didn’t entertain talks with Broughton eitherΒ 

Where has this notion that Dolan was previously offered a new deal or refused to entertain a new deal come from?

I'm going to call BS on that one. He signed one new deal after being at the Club and there's no way he would have refused to sign another improved deal a while ago.

Posted
9 minutes ago, TimmyJimmy said:

Dolan had an early period when he showed promise. He hadn't yet turned in his later performances that now make him attractive to other teams.

My conversation with him would have happened in his season #2 along the lines of:

"You obviously have great potential, one day you'll be well sought after. Right now though I need to think about the club. You'll grow from being here, you'll play a lot so I need to protect your value to us before putting in the work to grow you and raise your profile. Sign this."

If no:

"Then I'll have to ask you to start looking for another club as you won't be developing at our expense any more. You're in the U21 until you leave or reconsider".

"We like you a lot TD but that's how it is. Let me know what you decide by next week."

Something like that.

Would you do the same now with Hyam?

Posted
2 minutes ago, RevidgeBlue said:

Where has this notion that Dolan was previously offered a new deal or refused to entertain a new deal come from?

I'm going to call BS on that one. He signed one new deal after being at the Club and there's no way he would have refused to sign another improved deal a while ago.

Depends if you believe Broughton.

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Posted
1 hour ago, Emerald Isle Rover said:

Top fan - showing your true coloursΒ 

regardless of the venkys madness any β€˜fan’ who backs against the team quite frankly isn’t a fanΒ 

Exactly 1000% correct there.Β 

1 hour ago, roversfan99 said:

Dolan always had it in mind to leave even 2 years ago.

This helpless narrative is exactly what the club will be wanting spread. I suspect it was a case of the offer not befitting what he felt a player with a number of years of Championship experience should be getting. Im not having that he decided unconditionally to run down a deal with 2 years left on the tiny contract he would have signed not longer after joining.

GB tried and tried yet Dolan didn't want to talk cos he was changing agent. Maybe that was the sign he was lining up his next move.Β 

He now still no move line up unlike BBD did when he left us. Maybe his demands are too high as the Turkish club chairman or those supposedly interested clubs havent materialise into actual offers. Whichever it is he has gone from us and we moved on now.Β 

51 minutes ago, Rover84 said:

Boro linked to Gilchrist this morning

Maybe they are moving from Brittain perhaps

Posted
2 hours ago, RoversClitheroe said:

If Greg Broughton were here I think we would have tied them down personally.

Only if we were intending flogging them straight away for a profit like Wharton.

Posted
3 minutes ago, RevidgeBlue said:

Where has this notion that Dolan was previously offered a new deal or refused to entertain a new deal come from?

I'm going to call BS on that one. He signed one new deal after being at the Club and there's no way he would have refused to sign another improved deal a while ago.

Go and read Gregg Broughton comments about Dolan during his interviews.Β 

Posted
Just now, chaddyrovers said:

Go and read Gregg Broughton comments about Dolan during his interviews.Β 

Like I believe what he'd say. King of the bullshitters.

Exiled floated some figures earlier. As if Dolan would leave c Β£400k over 2 years on the table here on the off chance he might get a better move at the end of his contract.Β 

Posted
32 minutes ago, roverblue said:

What an exciting summer its been so far Rudy and Pasha...

  • 3 random foreigners in for peanuts with no experience or pedigree on low wages
  • 5 first team championship experienced starters out plus all loanees saving a fortune in wages.
  • No contracts sorted for any of our 1st team
  • Sacked the CEO and made a load of backroom staff redundant
  • Sacked off the women's team

You are doing a fantastic job keep up the good work! Pretty soon we will have a cost budget to compete with Chorley FC and you can bask in the praise from our chicken overlords.

Great post.

This is one for the FF to pose to whoever shows up from the club

2 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

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Maybe they are moving from Brittain perhaps

Gilchist for centre half I imagine.

Posted
53 minutes ago, AVE1875 said:

So, out of players we have signed/been strongly linked to over the course of the window so far (not sure if I have missed any): -Β 

  • Steve Kapaudi - No dealΒ 
  • Marwan Al-Sahafi - No deal
  • Ryan Alebiosu - Deal
  • Sidnei Tavares - Deal
  • Dion De Neve - Deal
  • Moussa Baradji - No deal
  • Ethan Pye - No deal
  • Cody Drameh - No deal
  • Sean McLoughlin (I am regurgitating an old name here, I can't remember the name of who it wasΒ but sure it was another Hull player)Β - No deal

Prior to pre season starting, we'd reached 33% so already failed that expectation to Val 🀣

We were "in talks" with Ajax about Sivert Mannsverk about a week ago as well.

Posted
4 minutes ago, RevidgeBlue said:

Like I believe what he'd say. King of the bullshitters.

Exiled floated some figures earlier. As if Dolan would leave c Β£400k over 2 years on the table here on the off chance he might get a better move at the end of his contract.Β 

The only reason I believe he was offered a contract because that story and the previous one was around the time we were actually extending peoples contracts. I can’t see why we would extend the likes of JRC and not Dolan.
How much we were offering him in comparison to our other regular starters is another question.

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Posted
57 minutes ago, Mercer said:

Yep, a top fan going back to early sixties who can count on two hands the number of seasons I DID NOT have season ticket(s) and for many seasons held half a dozen or so season tickets.Β  Also bought corporate facilities.

What'sΒ  your record?

Nowt wrong with betting against your team if you believe in a certain outcome.

Β 

Wrong - check my postings.Β  On match day, usually bet on a single outcome and additionally throw in a 'fun bet' eg correct score, goals over etc.

Did you bet on relegation last year the certain outcome?

Posted
14 minutes ago, RevidgeBlue said:

Like I believe what he'd say. King of the bullshitters.

Exiled floated some figures earlier. As if Dolan would leave c Β£400k over 2 years on the table here on the off chance he might get a better move at the end of his contract.Β 

So what your saying here is I don’t believe it because I don’t want to it doesn’t suit my argument Β 

Posted (edited)

If Boro go for the Chelsea lad and Britain wants to go Derby I would play him for a full season in the reserves and take the loss

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Posted
2 minutes ago, Emerald Isle Rover said:

So what your saying here is I don’t believe it because I don’t want to it doesn’t suit my argument Β 

No, because who would riskΒ  leaving an eye watering amount of money on the table like that?

If he was ever offered anything it would have been for a nominal increase on his existing deal and not even worth considering. But at least then the Club would have been able to change the narrative and pin the blame on the player.

Posted

I'm not bothered about Dolan leaving at all. Very average championship player.Β 

The real issues it does show though is that no player with any ambition or options wants to stay at the club and the replacement will be cheap/free and likely a downgrade.Β 

We haven't signed anyone yet that improves our first 11 from last season. In fact, we've lost/losing our 2 best defenders - Batth and Brittain.Β 

On the flip side, we've often not added to the squad at all by this point so at least we're quicker out of the blocks this year.

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