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Posted
8 hours ago, Mercer said:

Wrong - check my postings.Β  On match day, usually bet on a single outcome and additionally throw in a 'fun bet' eg correct score, goals over etc.

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Every other league has relegation odds.
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It’s like in the Championship they are waiting to see what happens with Sheff Wednesday and any other potential points deductions (Leicester) before they price it up.

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Posted
6 hours ago, roversfan99 said:

Ismael paving the way for Travis and Tronstad to leave.

His demeanour in the BBC Lancashire clip seemed frosty but hard to tell if hes already getting pissed off as he seems to just be like that all the time.

People will jump to the defence of the club by saying we moan when we let players run their contracts down and moan when we sell. To me, the issue wouldnt be selling them. Its again, how has it got to this? Why werent contracts offered earlier? Why do so many people want to go elsewhere?

Didn't realise you were body language expert? the things you learnΒ 

6 hours ago, roversfan99 said:

Have we moved on? We are all still talking about it. And the club still has a massive hole in the position where he played.

Yes, I am sure he, like Brittain, Tronstad, Travis all are just being individually unrealistically greedy.

Has anyone said they are being unrealistically greedy? They are key players in this squad and they should be reward with contracts to reflect that.Β 

5 hours ago, wilsdenrover said:

For me it’s not how good or not he is.

It’s how much worse his replacement would likely be.Β 

Why don't we wait until to see who sign as right winger

5 hours ago, Tyrone Shoelaces said:

Neither of them are ready for more than just an occasional substitute appearance.

based on what?Β 

4 hours ago, roversfan99 said:

Feels like Gestede being a total novice is really shining through. Clearly has lots of ideas about random targets from here there and everywhere but these contract situations were always the elephant in the room and he seems happy to just push them to the back of the priority list. The likelihood of these situations overtaking this summer was always high and it was avoidable.

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who says Gestede is picking random targets? why do we have have lead scouts like Piotr Sadowski and Michael Cairney doing what? are these not scouting and finding these players that fit how Ismael wants to play and the profile of player he wants? Also you don't factor in the role Adam Owen is playing in the recruitment of new signings and behind the scenes?Β 

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Posted
15 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

are we really one down given that Eustace sent Lowe scouting the next opposition and wasn't actually coaching anyone. Maybe Ismael doesn't want 2 first team coaches but is happy with Whitehead as number 2 and Johnson as first team coach.Β 

Yes we are. This time last year we had 2 more than we do now. I don't really care what he was doing, and presumably we weren't paying him to sit around doing nothing, it is less than we had before.

I thought Ismael mentioned wanting to add to his staff once the season was over?

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1 minute ago, JHRover said:

Yes we are. This time last year we had 2 more than we do now. I don't really care what he was doing, and presumably we weren't paying him to sit around doing nothing, it is less than we had before.

I thought Ismael mentioned wanting to add to his staff once the season was over?

Maybe Ismael doesn't want a big coaching staff or wants to more of coaching himself or is changing Johnson role within the set up.Β 

Hughes and Allardyce only had a number 2, first team coach, fitness coach and GK coach.Β 

Ismael has on his staff Whitehead has number 2, Johnson has first team coach, Benson as GK coach whilst we have Karl Hodges and Adam Yates in the fitness area of staffΒ 

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Posted
28 minutes ago, GHD said:

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A word to the wise... Don't feck with Mercer! He's more of an old codger than I am, and would pull your arms off and spit roast your torso with his keyboard warriorship faster than two black holes merging in deep space....

Just saying..

Posted
27 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

Didn't realise you were body language expert? the things you learnΒ 

Has anyone said they are being unrealistically greedy? They are key players in this squad and they should be reward with contracts to reflect that.Β 

Why don't we wait until to see who sign as right winger

based on what?Β 

who says Gestede is picking random targets? why do we have have lead scouts like Piotr Sadowski and Michael Cairney doing what? are these not scouting and finding these players that fit how Ismael wants to play and the profile of player he wants? Also you don't factor in the role Adam Owen is playing in the recruitment of new signings and behind the scenes?Β 

Based on what my eyes tell me.

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Posted
13 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

Maybe Ismael doesn't want a big coaching staff or wants to more of coaching himself or is changing Johnson role within the set up.Β 

Hughes and Allardyce only had a number 2, first team coach, fitness coach and GK coach.Β 

Ismael has on his staff Whitehead has number 2, Johnson has first team coach, Benson as GK coach whilst we have Karl Hodges and Adam Yates in the fitness area of staffΒ 

I'm well aware of all this. Attempts to compare the highly professional and Premier League standard coaching staff of Allardyce and Hughes to the current outfit is hilarious and ludicrous in equal measure.

https://www.lancashiretelegraph.co.uk/sport/24977075.blackburns-stance-ismaels-staff-addition/

It was clearly implied that addition(s) to the staff were potentially coming this summer, and since then Lowe has departed. So I don't think this is simply Ismael not wanting a 'big coaching staff'. Perhaps he has been informed that there isn't the budget to allow for further coaching staff which is why Lowe has been axed - to save cash?

I bet if you compare that collection of names to any other coaching staff in the division it is small.

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Posted
26 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

who says Gestede is picking random targets? why do we have have lead scouts like Piotr Sadowski and Michael Cairney doing what? are these not scouting and finding these players that fit how Ismael wants to play and the profile of player he wants? Also you don't factor in the role Adam Owen is playing in the recruitment of new signings and behind the scenes?Β 

rudi isΒ  picking players from the belgian 2nd division where he`s obviously got a contact,i suspect the other scouts you mentioned have recomended the players who have gone elsewhere or who we won`t pay for ,i.e keersmaecker,mannsverk,baradji etc, those lads willΒ  do a parke and leave by october when they realise their job is pointless,ironically that`s what we`ll be in the division,pointless!!!!!!!!!!!

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Posted
10 minutes ago, Old Codger said:

A word to the wise... Don't feck with Mercer! He's more of an old codger than I am, and would pull your arms off and spit roast your torso with his keyboard warriorship faster than two black holes merging in deep space....

Just saying..

I'd say he usually comes off second best in most debates he has on here. Has his moments though. But if he argues with the poster you quoted, he's basically arguing with himself.

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Surprised there's no new links today.Β  There's usually a good one thrown in to deflect the negativity πŸ˜‚.Β 

At least Ismael now admitted we will sell our captain/Tronstadt should an offer appear.

Even the LET brigade are beginning to realise all is not well. There's nobody else to blame now the CEO has gone.Β 

Pasha/Gestede are going to have to nail a couple of decent signings soon as it's all on their heads.

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Posted
1 hour ago, chaddyrovers said:

Maybe Ismael rated both players far more you do . I can't comment on Alebiosu quality but I think Montgomery is someone we need to develop but I think he would be better in box to box midfielder role with his ability to get up and down the pitch. Just for record and to be crystal clear Yes I would sign another right back with championship experience with similar attitudes to Brittain to play the role that Ismael wants from his right back role. Montgomery did very good provide that width and getting high up s quickly

are we really one down given that Eustace sent Lowe scouting the next opposition and wasn't actually coaching anyone. Maybe Ismael doesn't want 2 first team coaches but is happy with Whitehead as number 2 and Johnson as first team coach.Β 

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1 hour ago, chaddyrovers said:

Didn't realise you were body language expert? the things you learnΒ 

Has anyone said they are being unrealistically greedy? They are key players in this squad and they should be reward with contracts to reflect that.Β 

Why don't we wait until to see who sign as right winger

based on what?Β 

who says Gestede is picking random targets? why do we have have lead scouts like Piotr Sadowski and Michael Cairney doing what? are these not scouting and finding these players that fit how Ismael wants to play and the profile of player he wants? Also you don't factor in the role Adam Owen is playing in the recruitment of new signings and behind the scenes?Β 

You are being particularly pedantic at the moment.

What has how I rate both players got to do with anything? I had never heard of one until last week, I dont hold an opinion of him. We wanted a right back to cover Brittain coming into the summer, we got one, now Brittain is going. Naturally, you would think a new first choice right back would come in. You even agree with that.

If we dont directly replace Brittain, I will presume it is due to budgetary reasons. You don't possess the ability to adopt critical thinking. If we dont sign someone, you think its because thats what Ismael must have wanted. You cant fathom that he might not get everything he wants.

You have totally missed my point about Gestede and gone off down your usual rabbit hole of parroting lines about players fitting Ismael's style and naming various members of the recruitment team. These contract situations are of critical importance but Gestede has not treated them as such, he keeps kicking the can down the road. Now our whole window is still in limbo as we are nonethewiser about what is happening with 2 of the 3, and with Brittain we only know due to other team's interest. He seems solely focused on playing real life football manager trying to sign players from across Europe without seemingly enough awareness as to the importance to balance that off. If we end this window with no Dolan, Batth, Brittain and then potentially Tronstad and Travis, chuck in Weimann too, and just add too many random European players, I suspect there may be a lot of anxiety.

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Posted
10 hours ago, Danny O.Brien said:

I'm a big fan of Callum brittain and think he was one of our better players last season. Is he as good as some people would have you believe and irreplaceable? Probably not. He had a great season but is suspect to injuries and will be 28 next season. We can't begrudge him a move and probably a last chance at a big contract on more money than we could offer. He's decent especially for this level but isn't going to have the same effect I think Travis or tronstad would have if they went. And if he's refused to play bollocks to him, if they want him get the fee we want and let him go.Β 

He's irreplaceable when he doesn't get replaced.

Posted
25 minutes ago, Torgeir said:

No name leaked yet on the winger we have bid for?Β 

Not seen anything new. Just the usual players that are linked in near enough every window being banded aboutΒ 

Posted
4 hours ago, aletheia said:

Just checking in after getting a life πŸ˜‰

So…

Lowe has gone, the disgraceful approach to the women’s team has deepened, we still don’t have a new CEO, Tronstad and Trav have not signed new contracts, Brittain will leave, existing signings are paraded as new signings, JRC has gone, Dolan has gone (but not signed anywhere else yet.) Court case –long grass?Β 

Club spin and nonsense on all of the above continues (β€˜we did all we could’, β€˜we are communicating’, β€˜we are moving forward with youth’ etc. etc.) as does a gullible fan base who swallow said nonsense.

Likely outcome, relegation.Β 

Have I missed anything?

And yes, I will be going, sorry upside. Madness indeed.

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Not missed much but feel free to jump back on the roundabout

Posted

The dolan situation reminds me a lot of the nyame situation.... Player thinks he's better and worth more than he actually is. But if that was the case then a decent club would have snapped him up immediately.Β 

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Can see his career nose diving and him becoming another player that doesn't realise how good he's had it here

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Posted
19 minutes ago, Armchair supporter supremo said:

The dolan situation reminds me a lot of the nyame situation.... Player thinks he's better and worth more than he actually is. But if that was the case then a decent club would have snapped him up immediately.Β 

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Can see his career nose diving and him becoming another player that doesn't realise how good he's had it here

He’s waiting for a top club to get desperate for bodies. I don’t think he cares about game time. Just wants the lavish lifestyle. AIM too high above your level, expect to leave your imprints on the bench

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Posted
3 hours ago, RoversTilliDie said:

Whats the betting on another manager jumping ship, before the seasons over, more players joining the exodus.

100% Ismael won’t be here at the end of next season.

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Posted (edited)
13 hours ago, chaddyrovers said:

I am fully aware of all that but we still lots of experienced players here

But we should have built on that every season and got stronger and stronger till we got promoted.

That's how it works isn't it? Β Its not a sensible response to argue we've still got some experienced players left.

Have we enough of them got avoid relegation? When do their contracts run out? We are sliding into nothingness.

I realise I'm on ignore but maybe others will agree with me.

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