jim mk2 Posted 6 hours ago Posted 6 hours ago 44 minutes ago, Emerald Isle Rover said: I’m not sure many would have Bellamy in their ‘all time best rovers’ lineup no Chris Sutton? seriously what are we doing here  Paired with Santa Cruz he would. Free running, fast forward and a brilliant combination, if only for one season. Some of the most exhiliarting football I've seen Rovers play. 4 Quote
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roverandout Posted 6 hours ago Posted 6 hours ago 18 minutes ago, Tyrone Shoelaces said: I was right in line with it. I thought it was going in right until it went past the post. I think if that had gone in we would have held out for a win. Me too. I could see it clear as day Quote
Wing Wizard Windy Miller Posted 6 hours ago Posted 6 hours ago 1 hour ago, Old Codger said: Just over 2 and a half weeks now to the start of the new season, away at West Brom. All very quiet on the transfer front, albeit with the players in Spain for a pre-season kickabout and some sun. What is worrying me most as it stands is the prospect of losing any of our key players from here on in, such as Travis, Tronstadt, Brittain (although he has kind of gone already in my mind), or Pickering. Pre-season is important in terms of drilling a playing style and gaining team cohesion, and should we lose anyone key at this point, there will be inevitable impacts on whatever has been achieved during the pre-season run up. That is even before we factor in the challenge of integrating any incoming player(s) into the team. It isn't beyond the wit of our opposition in the league to be delaying their moves in order to derail any momentum we have built up, not withstanding of course that bringing our players into their own set ups would cause similar challenges to those we would face, but hey - maybe they have greater strength in depth and can take the hit, whereas we are paper thin in terms of talent and capacity to accommodate disruption. But don't listen to me - I'm just a crusty old codger, and I worry about all kinds of stuff that younger folk don't even consider real (yet!). I'd rather we got our shopping done, declared ourselves 'complete' and set out our stall accordingly, so that worried old gits like me can look forward to the new campaign, instead of being scared of the shadows that most certainly (to me) appear to stalk our club. COYB! Get ready. It is very quiet. I wonder whether the club expected to have both Travis and Brittain off the books by now and are short of cash for incomings. Quote
roverandout Posted 6 hours ago Posted 6 hours ago Shame Bellamy is such a bellend off the pitch 4 Quote
B16Rover Posted 6 hours ago Posted 6 hours ago If you don't rate Williams, McLoughlin won't excite you 1 Quote
roverandout Posted 6 hours ago Posted 6 hours ago There's no way I'd have Bellamy over Sutton. Sutton was the complete forward. He had a mix of Teddy Sheringham and Alan Shearer. Bellamy was quick and a good finisher 2 Quote
47er Posted 6 hours ago Posted 6 hours ago 10 minutes ago, roverandout said: Me too. I could see it clear as day One of those times when he had too much time to think where he was going to put it. 3 Quote
roverandout Posted 6 hours ago Posted 6 hours ago I also thought benny Mccarthy was excellent in his first season. Then he downed tools. He ended up doing nothing at West ham Quote
roverandout Posted 6 hours ago Posted 6 hours ago 1 minute ago, 47er said: One of those times when he had too much time to think where he was going to put it. I had my head in my hands when he missed that. Remember walking away from old Trafford gutted. Shame because it was such an enjoyable day. The banter with the Chelsea fans outside the ground before the game. Remember one asking me who was going to win I said rovers. He replied 'then you woke up' Quote
Tyrone Shoelaces Posted 6 hours ago Posted 6 hours ago 5 minutes ago, roverandout said: There's no way I'd have Bellamy over Sutton. Sutton was the complete forward. He had a mix of Teddy Sheringham and Alan Shearer. Bellamy was quick and a good finisher He didn’t do much after he left Rovers unless you count his time up in Scotland as something. The best I saw him play was for Celtic when they beat us at Ewood. 1 Quote
roverandout Posted 6 hours ago Posted 6 hours ago Just now, Tyrone Shoelaces said: He didn’t do much after he left Rovers unless you count his time up in Scotland as something. The best I saw him play was for Celtic when they beat us at Ewood. Chelsea had a habit of ruining good players. Duff cole Sutton. He only played around 10 games for them Quote
Tyrone Shoelaces Posted 6 hours ago Posted 6 hours ago 16 minutes ago, roverandout said: Shame Bellamy is such a bellend off the pitch I think he’s finally grown up by now.  He’s doing well with Wales. I remember seeing him in his very early days at Norwich and thinking - “ Mm, he’s nothing special “. 1 Quote
roverandout Posted 5 hours ago Posted 5 hours ago (edited) 2 minutes ago, Tyrone Shoelaces said: I think he’s finally grown up by now.  He’s doing well with Wales. I remember seeing him in his very early days at Norwich and thinking - “ Mm, he’s nothing special “. Agree but he looks a bit of a prick the way he prances around the technical area as wales manager always in the ear of the officials Edited 5 hours ago by roverandout Quote
Moderation Lead K-Hod Posted 5 hours ago Moderation Lead Posted 5 hours ago 11 minutes ago, roverandout said: There's no way I'd have Bellamy over Sutton. Sutton was the complete forward. He had a mix of Teddy Sheringham and Alan Shearer. Bellamy was quick and a good finisher I’m 41 years old and I’d happily have Bellamy over anyone, bar Shearer in my lifetime. 2 Quote
roversfan99 Posted 5 hours ago Posted 5 hours ago 3 minutes ago, roverandout said: Chelsea had a habit of ruining good players. Duff cole Sutton. He only played around 10 games for them Duff was very good for Chelsea, injuries slowed him down in the end. Which Cole did they ruin? Quote
roverandout Posted 5 hours ago Posted 5 hours ago Just now, K-Hod said: I’m 41 years old and I’d happily have Bellamy over anyone, bar Shearer in my lifetime. I'm 46 years old and I disagree lol Quote
Tyrone Shoelaces Posted 5 hours ago Posted 5 hours ago 7 minutes ago, roverandout said: I also thought benny Mccarthy was excellent in his first season. Then he downed tools. He ended up doing nothing at West ham And Jansen. Andy Cole before we paired him with Yorke and ruined both of then. Santa Cruz. Going - back Garner, then in the old days Fred Pickering and Andy McEvoy. Just before my time - Peter Dobing  and Roy Vernon. All top class. 2 Quote
roverandout Posted 5 hours ago Posted 5 hours ago Just now, roversfan99 said: Duff was very good for Chelsea, injuries slowed him down in the end. Which Cole did they ruin? Joe Cole. Mourinho had a habit of making technical players become more robotic Quote
chaddyrovers Posted 5 hours ago Posted 5 hours ago 12 hours ago, roversfan99 said: Deary me, I never said that he isnt ready physically. Im saying that we need to be well covered in case he isnt, in case he needs any spells out, in case his injury problems come back or are exascerbated playing mens football. If he comes in, is of the standard and is physically sustainable, then fantastic, whether we sign someone or not. But we cant just assume he will be. Also, without signing a new contract, we have seen this script before. I have nothing to add to my original points and comments regarding Tyjon. We aren't going to agree here so why don't leave it here agree to disagree Quote
roverandout Posted 5 hours ago Posted 5 hours ago Just now, Tyrone Shoelaces said: And Jansen. Andy Cole before we paired him with Yorke and ruined both of then. Santa Cruz. Going - back Garner, then in the old days Fred Pickering and Andy McEvoy. Just before my time - Peter Dobing  and Roy Vernon. All top class. We've had so many. Forgot how good jansen was. His debut goal against spurs everyone had their head in their hands. Absolute disgrace sven taking keown over Jansen 4 Quote
Tyrone Shoelaces Posted 5 hours ago Posted 5 hours ago 2 minutes ago, K-Hod said: I’m 41 years old and I’d happily have Bellamy over anyone, bar Shearer in my lifetime. As I said I’ve seem them all from 1961-62 and I rate Bellamy above all the others bar Shearer and there was some brilliant players in my little list. 1 Quote
Tyrone Shoelaces Posted 5 hours ago Posted 5 hours ago Just now, roverandout said: We've had so many. Forgot how good jansen was. His debut goal against spurs everyone had their head in their hands. Absolute disgrace sven taking keown over Jansen I think Matty would be just behind Bellamy for me. He had it all but Bellamy was quicker. Both fantastic players in my opinion,I still shudder when I think about the accident in Rome. 1 Quote
MarkBRFC Posted 5 hours ago Posted 5 hours ago 9 minutes ago, roverandout said: Chelsea had a habit of ruining good players. Duff cole Sutton. He only played around 10 games for them They didn't ruin Duff. He was a key player for them in two title winning seasons. Quote
Admiral Nelsen Posted 5 hours ago Posted 5 hours ago 39 minutes ago, Tyrone Shoelaces said: Look at their respective careers. That should tell you all you need to know. Sutton was great for us but Bellamy had that X factor. Teams had to line up 10 yards deeper against us when he was playing.  Had he played every game that season - rather than missing about a third of it with niggles - I'm convinced we'd have been in the Champions League. Incredible player when we kept him on the park.  It's difficult to compare Bellamy to a fully fit and firing Santa-Cruz, but I'd have them both a little ahead of Sutton, personally. 1 Quote
roverandout Posted 5 hours ago Posted 5 hours ago Just now, Tyrone Shoelaces said: I think Matty would be just behind Bellamy for me. He had it all but Bellamy was quicker. Both fantastic players in my opinion,I still shudder when I think about the accident in Rome. I read Jansen's autobiography. He was with his girlfriend and they decided to go out on a scooter but jansen refused to wear a helmet he said he doesn't have any memory of the accident. He also said he was penciled in by sven to go to the world cup. Souness broke the news to him after a game. He had his suit ready and everything then tord grip convinced sven to take an extra defender Quote
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