RevidgeBlue Posted 5 hours ago Posted 5 hours ago 5 minutes ago, roversfan99 said: My question marks around this deal still surrounding why it may be rumbling on, if it is, and whether trying to spend a decent chunk of our limited budget on what would be 3rd and 4th choice central midfielders was a wise plan. Yeah my thoughts as well would be that it might have been thought Travis and Tronstad were leaving at one point. Wrexham are now allegedly interested in one of the guys the guy we were interested in ( whose name escapes me) for Β£4m and ( Tin hat on) there never seems to be much interest in Tronstad so we might be safe for a bit. Quote
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Mercer Posted 5 hours ago Posted 5 hours ago 12 minutes ago, RevidgeBlue said: Before my time but Britt was the one that rang a bell on this for me having read about it. Who was the player we bought and sold on immediately for a profit? Bobby Bell! Came from Ipswich as part of the Allan Hunter deal and was then transferred to Crystal PalaceΒ after just 2 or 3 games for Rovers.Β 1 Quote
RoversClitheroe Posted 5 hours ago Posted 5 hours ago 10 minutes ago, roversfan99 said: Where have you seen that he was supposed to be out for 6 weeks? I am not going jump into conspiracy theories and suggest that there is no injury. If there was a medical question mark, a medical is more like a risk assessment as players sometimes sign for clubs with an injury. Not saying there is not some gamesmanship but it would make no sense to even bother flying him over for a medical if it was all some sort of masterplan to make it appear like we had more money than we do. Maybe the issue was that any injury concerns could come back in the future. My question marks around this deal still surrounding why it may be rumbling on, if it is, and whether trying to spend a decent chunk of our limited budget on what would be 3rd and 4th choice central midfielders was a wise plan. Mate I'm sorry I just can't believe any of it. How can you have a stress fracture which could allegedly have long term problems and as we are made to believe desperate to join the club. But playing today? You genuinely believe he has a stress fracture, as reported in the media. Quote
rigger Posted 5 hours ago Posted 5 hours ago (edited) 19 minutes ago, RevidgeBlue said: Before my time but Britt was the one that rang a bell on this for me having read about it. Who was the player we bought and sold on immediately for a profit? Bobby Bell, to Palace. Edited 5 hours ago by rigger Quote
RevidgeBlue Posted 5 hours ago Posted 5 hours ago 5 minutes ago, rigger said: Bobby Bell, to Palace. Cheers rigger and Merce. Quote
ROVER_N_OUT1978 Posted 5 hours ago Posted 5 hours ago What a poor summer of recruitment it has been to date . So much for Rudy's talk of a rebuild. Very underwhelming signings and I can't say I'm confident we will see much better between here and the close of the window. It's the hope that kills you. Until we see an end to Venkys reign I can't see any hope for us poor suffering supporters. I made three trips to Ewood from the south east of Ireland last year and I'll probably do it again this year but my God it isn't easy with these owners. 5 Quote
Mercer Posted 5 hours ago Posted 5 hours ago 33 minutes ago, Tyrone Shoelaces said: The player that caused the introduction of medicals was Alan Gilliver. A big centre forward who came from Huddersfield to Rovers with an on going back injury. We actually got Β£18,000 of the Β£32,000 fee back. Weβd already had our fingers burnt when we signed another centre forward in Β Martin Britt from West Ham who came with a bad knee injury. He retired from the game after playing about a dozen games for us. Both looked really good signings before the injuries emerged. We should have paid Fred Pickering the money, We spent twice as much as we got for his fee trying to replace him. 'Gilly' was a strange one.Β Think he had a 1 in 2 record for Huddersfield but seemed to struggle with his back but strangely, went on to play over 200 league games when he left Rovers!Β Read somewhere he's now one of football's dementia sufferers which is no surprise given he was an 'old fashioned' centre forward. West Ham certainly sold us a pup in Britt - think it was a training injury after a coming together with Bobby Moore.Β When we signed him, remember my dad saying to me during his first match 'we've signed a dud here' - to the experienced eye, it was clear he couldn't jump off his injured leg which was a bit limiting for a centre forward! Quote
... Posted 5 hours ago Posted 5 hours ago 11 minutes ago, ROVER_N_OUT1978 said: What a poor summer of recruitment it has been to date . So much for Rudy's talk of a rebuild. Very underwhelming signings and I can't say I'm confident we will see much better between here and the close of the window. It's the hope that kills you. Until we see an end to Venkys reign I can't see any hope for us poor suffering supporters. I made three trips to Ewood from the south east of Ireland last year and I'll probably do it again this year but my God it isn't easy with these owners. Fair play for travellingΒ 1 Quote
roversfan99 Posted 5 hours ago Posted 5 hours ago 36 minutes ago, RoversClitheroe said: Mate I'm sorry I just can't believe any of it. How can you have a stress fracture which could allegedly have long term problems and as we are made to believe desperate to join the club. But playing today? You genuinely believe he has a stress fracture, as reported in the media. I am as critical as most about the running of the club. But the conspiracy theory that you are proposing makes no sense. Why would they agree a fee and fly a player over only to essentially fabricate an injury? And for no one on the player or selling clubs side to seemingly contest it?Β Β I believe the reports that an issue was brought up with the medical. No reason to doubt it. Dont have a clue what that could have been exactly from a medical standpoint, but I dont think its as straightforward as well hes played 3 weeks later, it must be fake. Maybe hes playing with some sort of painkilling treatment, maybe the issue is a high risk of recurring injury. And where did you get 6 weeks from? 3 Quote
roversfan99 Posted 5 hours ago Posted 5 hours ago 48 minutes ago, MarkBRFC said: 3rd and 4th choice as things stand right now, but will be 1st and 2nd choice before too long. That is true, but we have positions were our current first choice isnt very strong. It would make more sense if we then sold say Travis, or we then spent more on the attack as well.Β As it is, this conversation becomes hypothetical as I suspect he wont sign. 1 Quote
simongarnerisgod Posted 5 hours ago Posted 5 hours ago 23 minutes ago, ROVER_N_OUT1978 said: What a poor summer of recruitment it has been to date . So much for Rudy's talk of a rebuild. Very underwhelming signings and I can't say I'm confident we will see much better between here and the close of the window. It's the hope that kills you. Until we see an end to Venkys reign I can't see any hope for us poor suffering supporters. I made three trips to Ewood from the south east of Ireland last year and I'll probably do it again this year but my God it isn't easy with these owners. the club is devoid of any ambition or will to succeed,it illustrates what a complete shambles it is when they let good players just run their contracts down and leave 1 Quote
islander200 Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago 1 hour ago, MarkBRFC said: 3rd and 4th choice as things stand right now, but will be 1st and 2nd choice before too long. Quite probable they will cash in on Travis before the window shuts but I think Tronstad will be here for next season. Ismael said that Tronstad doesn't want to leave this summer and he ran his contract down at his previous club so I think he will give us one more season and then look at his optionsΒ Quote
Hasta Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago (edited) 34 minutes ago, ROVER_N_OUT1978 said: It's the hope that kills you. What hope. We all expected a load of underwhelming foreign cheapies that nobody wanted. Thatβs predominantly what weβve got.Β Β I still expect 2 of the 3 contract expires to depart. Edited 4 hours ago by Hasta Quote
StHelensRover Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago I've read about 20 posts on here from the last 24hrs debating whether the squad is slightly weaker or slightly stronger than this time last year and it seems to be pretty much a dead heat, very little to choose between, people making arguments either way. How the squad is only marginally stronger (at best) when we have brought in tens of millions over the last couple of seasons is criminal. Where on earth has that money gone?Β 5 Quote
Tomphil2 Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago 2 minutes ago, StHelensRover said: I've read about 20 posts on here from the last 24hrs debating whether the squad is slightly weaker or slightly stronger than this time last year and it seems to be pretty much a dead heat, very little to choose between, people making arguments either way. How the squad is only marginally stronger (at best) when we have brought in tens of millions over the last couple of seasons is criminal. Where on earth has that money gone?Β Paying the bills. When was the last time Vs sent big money that we know about ? Quote
Fraserkirky Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago Under two weeks before season starts. Next week should be busy. Just 3 more and I think we can compete. Quote
StHelensRover Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago Just now, Fraserkirky said: Under two weeks before season starts. Next week should be busy. Just 3 more and I think we can compete. When you say compete do you mean towards the top or towards the bottom? I think if we don't get at least 3 players in who can hit the ground running that we're in a bit of trouble. Especially a striker and a winger. 3 Quote
simongarnerisgod Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago 3 minutes ago, Tomphil2 said: Paying the bills. When was the last time Vs sent big money that we know about ? brereton and gallagher,not the wisest investments imo,defenders are coming was tonys phraseπ 1 Quote
yankfan Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago 35 minutes ago, islander200 said: Quite probable they will cash in on Travis before the window shuts but I think Tronstad will be here for next season. Ismael said that Tronstad doesn't want to leave this summer and he ran his contract down at his previous club so I think he will give us one more season and then look at his optionsΒ Just because he doesnβt want to leave doesnβt mean we shouldnβt sell him and let him walk for freeβ¦if he wants to stay we could sign him to an extensionβ¦but allowing him to run down the contract seems like a bad decision too.Β Quote
yankfan Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago 20 minutes ago, StHelensRover said: When you say compete do you mean towards the top or towards the bottom? I think if we don't get at least 3 players in who can hit the ground running that we're in a bit of trouble. Especially a striker and a winger. Desperately need a winger. Β Hedges isnβt good enough and always hurt. CM cover would be great since thereβs a massive drop off after Travis/trondstat. With carters I just a center half is needed for cover but I guess that could be loaned player. And as you mentioned a center forward, but Iβm sure they see the Ohashi/Gueye/Leonard as one that have enough bodies.Β Quote
chaddyrovers Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago 7 hours ago, RevidgeBlue said: The only ones of those who were proven Championship players before they arrived were Brittain Hyam Mcloughlin and arguably Cantwell. No one mentioned Proven do we?Β 6 hours ago, Jimmy612 said: Sorry, should have been a bit clearer. I said since 2022 because that was when we signed Szmod, Brittain and Hyam, all players with Championship experience. Your post said βquality championship playersβ. Β The vast majority of your other examples were overseas gambles or young loans. Β Chrisene for example had only played limited games in Scotland.Β Β I would say since it was made clear that the βproject had changedβ under JDT we have signed the following; McFadz (Free) Weimann (Free) Batth (Free)Β Fleck (Free, Disaster) Ribeiro (Free) Cantwell Forshaw (Free)Β McLoughlin Some disastrous loans as well in Dennis and Woodrow. God knows the average age of that list, but the vast majority are well over 30 and free.Β like I said we sign some good quality players and some poor ones over the last 2 years.Β 6 hours ago, Jimmy612 said: This window alone Charlton have brought in Kaminski, JRC and Bell who all know the championship well and I would say are Champ quality. Theyβve also signed players who wonβt have played much or any Champ football, but until they have done we canβt possibly say whether they are Championship quality, so your original question/point is totally moot.Β I don't see Charlton being anymore than bottom 6/relegation candidate. They have signed a few championship experience players granted but no world beatersΒ Quote
roversfan99 Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago Im not sure that "world beaters" are required to avoid relegation in the Championship. 1 Quote
islander200 Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago 29 minutes ago, yankfan said: Just because he doesnβt want to leave doesnβt mean we shouldnβt sell him and let him walk for freeβ¦if he wants to stay we could sign him to an extensionβ¦but allowing him to run down the contract seems like a bad decision too.Β Why? We have been told by Gestede that none of the transfer fees received will be added to the budget for recruitment.Β I'd feel more confident of not being relegated with a bit of experience in the team in tronstad rather than having a central midfield with no championship experience. If the situation is the same as Gestede said that incoming transfer fees don't effect the budget then replacements for whoever we sell will have to come out of the budget set by the owners at the beginning of the summer Not a hope in hell we would be able to replace Travis; Tronstad and Brittain with anything close to similar quality without using their fees. 1 Quote
Wing Wizard Windy Miller Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago 2 hours ago, RevidgeBlue said: Yeah my thoughts as well would be that it might have been thought Travis and Tronstad were leaving at one point. Wrexham are now allegedly interested in one of the guys the guy we were interested in ( whose name escapes me) for Β£4m and ( Tin hat on) there never seems to be much interest in Tronstad so we might be safe for a bit. I think it's certain we are waiting for cash in from either Brittain or Travis.Β Its very, very quiet on all fronts - including Hyam's 'very close' new contract.Β They were probably hoping Adam Wharton got a summer move too.Β Quote
simongarnerisgod Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago going to be one new signing and a couple of loans,i think thats about it,it`s clear they are banking on tyjon and montgomery to be "new" players,overall the squad will be threadbare by christmas and the usual january **** up won`t improve it,im`e not expecting us to be anywhere near the top six and if travis and brittain go,we`ll be nearer the bottomΒ Quote
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