Old Codger Posted 8 hours ago Posted 8 hours ago 13 hours ago, B16Rover said: 94th minute winner today, great finish Never seen so many 'Where's Wallys' in one place at the same time! Perhaps we could play "Where's Rudy' with that crowd? And anyway, if you were that player, why would you swap that set up for ours? Wouldn't make sense in any way shape or form. VENKYS OUT! WHERE'S RUDY? Quote
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KentExile Posted 8 hours ago Posted 8 hours ago (edited) 30 minutes ago, Old Codger said: And anyway, if you were that player, why would you swap that set up for ours? Wouldn't make sense in any way shape or form. Whilst Rovers do not offer massive wages in comparison to Championship teams, they could blow most Polish teams (including his current club) out of the water in terms of what they can offer (even if there is a self imposed cap), also with a much larger shop window for their next move Β Whilst Capology is far from a perfect metric,Β Β Jagiellonia Bialystok (Ekstraklasa) Estimated Total Gross Salaries for the 2025-2026 Season is β¬3,120,000, or β¬60,000 per week, not including bonuses. Β Blackburn Rovers FC's (Championship) Estimated Total Gross Salaries for the 2025-2026 Season is Β£12,146,000, or Β£233,577 per week, not including bonuses. Edited 7 hours ago by KentExile 1 Quote
davulsukur Posted 7 hours ago Posted 7 hours ago 9 minutes ago, Tomphil2 said: It's not how it starts it's how it looks a few months in and just like previous seasons mid way once injuries, fatigue etc begins to bite we'll struggle again. It's inevitable with such a low budget and amount of lightweights in the squad so we need a great run of form and many points again before that kicks in. I agree, definitely a squad game. Could definitely make an argument that overall it's weaker, at best we'd stand still which is basically going backwards in this game. 2 Quote
chaddyrovers Posted 7 hours ago Posted 7 hours ago 28 minutes ago, Tomphil2 said: It's not how it starts it's how it looks a few months in and just like previous seasons mid way once injuries, fatigue etc begins to bite we'll struggle again. It's inevitable with such a low budget and amount of lightweights in the squad so we need a great run of form and many points again before that kicks in. If we bring in 3 more signings that gives you plenty of depth in centre back and centre midfielder areas plus 2 players for every position plus 3th choice keeper. That's squad roughly 26/27 playersΒ Quote
Mercer Posted 7 hours ago Posted 7 hours ago 1 hour ago, chaddyrovers said: The bids for Brittain was pre Stanley friendly since then over 2 weeks has past and he has been playing for us in 3 friendly including Friday game and he flew with Rovers on Saturday. Yes a journalist on Tuesday, Derby bid was accepted, yet he has played in friendlies on Tuesday and Friday, so clearly not true.Β Β Well, I am told Brittain will be gone this week and atm, Derby are leading the way. We shall see. Quote
roversfan99 Posted 7 hours ago Posted 7 hours ago Its 26 or 27 if you dont factor in quality and start padding it out just naming players regardless of it. Leonard is a good example, not someone we can count on. It wouldnt leave us with sufficient quality and depth along the front line. Quote
Forever Blue Posted 7 hours ago Posted 7 hours ago If you go position to position we are stronger in some and weaker in others. The obvious weaknesses are up front due to the loss of Dolan and Weimann. If we replace those 2 with the mooted RW and AM then the squad is no weaker than last season and in certain areas can be viewed as stronger.Β Β Β 1 2 Quote
Tyrone Shoelaces Posted 7 hours ago Posted 7 hours ago 9 hours ago, RevidgeBlue said: Blimey, Endean was terrible! If Rogers was as good as everyone describes we didnt half get shafted on that deal. We did, they saw us coming there. Rogers was infinitely better. Quote
Tyrone Shoelaces Posted 7 hours ago Posted 7 hours ago 11 minutes ago, Mercer said: Well, I am told Brittain will be gone this week and atm, Derby are leading the way. We shall see. Itβs pretty obvious he wants away from Rovers. It seems to be just a question of when, where to and how much. Quote
B16Rover Posted 7 hours ago Posted 7 hours ago 36 minutes ago, Old Codger said: Never seen so many 'Where's Wallys' in one place at the same time! Perhaps we could play "Where's Rudy' with that crowd? And anyway, if you were that player, why would you swap that set up for ours? Wouldn't make sense in any way shape or form. VENKYS OUT! WHERE'S RUDY? Why would I ask a seemingly hard working (pressing in the 94th minute) to move from Bialystok (Poland's 10th city) to Manchester to work under a manager who's main game plan is to make use of hard working players.Β For a club who in recent years actively don't stand in the way of ambitious players who want to move by either accepting the first bid (Wharton, Armstrong, Szmodics) or by letting their contracts lapse (Dolan, BBD)? Quote
Mercer Posted 7 hours ago Posted 7 hours ago 9 hours ago, RevidgeBlue said: Blimey, Endean was terrible! If Rogers was as good as everyone describes we didnt half get shafted on that deal. Agree, Endean was terrible but he was only part of the deal. You need to remember Ken Furphy was manager at the time and he loved to wheel and deal.Β He brought in a couple early doors he had at Watford (Endean and Garbett). Other early Furphy signings from memory included McNamee, Field, Arentoft (Rovers first foreign player?) and Price. 1 Quote
Old Codger Posted 7 hours ago Posted 7 hours ago 6 minutes ago, B16Rover said: Why would I ask a seemingly hard working (pressing in the 94th minute) to move from Bialystok (Poland's 10th city) to Manchester to work under a manager who's main game plan is to make use of hard working players.Β For a club who in recent years actively don't stand in the way of ambitious players who want to move by either accepting the first bid (Wharton, Armstrong, Szmodics) or by letting their contracts lapse (Dolan, BBD)? Blackburn isn't Manchester, and we are certainly not England's 10th city! Friend of mine (Chelsea fan) says Man City have offered Β£149 million for one player (Palmer), which they have rejected, but they will take Β£250 million. The game is corrupted beyond any semblance of decency or morality. So I suppose a player moving from a well supported team in the relative backwaters of the Polish leagues to a second tier shambles for a few Zlotys more is easily explained... And it will, of course, only be a few Zlotys. But as you rightly point out, there is the opportunity to join a far more lucrative gravy train as a result of being in a better shop window. Money. Its a gas. Β Quote
AspRover Posted 7 hours ago Posted 7 hours ago Looks like we aren't making a big marquee signing this year, so once again I think we are pinning some hope on one of the players stepping up a gear and becoming the main man. Last season Cantwell was disappointing, but he's got the ability if we can get him playing/find a system that suits him a little better. Ohashi did astonishingly well last season when you consider that he had played a more or less full (?) J league season and then immediately went straight into our team without a break, let alone the cultural shift playing outside of Japan, language barrier etc. - but hopefully after a well earned break and now he's settled in he should be able to kick on. At the moment I don't think we have significantly weakened our first 11 (squad is debatable) - so if either of them can step it up this season and give us an attacking talisman we could be in a stronger position than last season. We need someone to have that one season ala Szmodics, BBD, Armstrong etc. We've got very lucky with this approach since promotion from league 1, the wheels will fall off at some point. If it isn't one of those two I'm not sure who our wild card is, Kargbo maybe?Β Quote
RoversTilliDie Posted 7 hours ago Posted 7 hours ago Derby have agreed with the Β£3,000,000 asking price for Brittain, how many is that now gone to Derby Weiman, Batt, Brittain and if you count Owen Beck who was at Ewood last season we will be playing Rovers away at pride park. Quote
superniko Posted 7 hours ago Posted 7 hours ago (edited) 31 minutes ago, Forever Blue said: If you go position to position we are stronger in some and weaker in others. The obvious weaknesses are up front due to the loss of Dolan and Weimann. If we replace those 2 with the mooted RW and AM then the squad is no weaker than last season and in certain areas can be viewed as stronger.Β Β Β I think at a stretch we could say the squad is on a par with last season, IFΒ we replace Dolan (7 goals and 6 assists last season, impressive for non-set piece taker),Β ANDΒ we keep Brittain (unlikely) BUT, we are then just 1 year away from Travis, Hyam, Brittain and Tronstad (lets add Hedges too given he starts more than he doesn't) all leaving on a free transfer - and if that doesn't change soon, then you can bet your bottom dollar the first 4 will all be off next summer - and by god that squad will look like League 1 standard then. Edited 7 hours ago by superniko Quote
RoversTilliDie Posted 7 hours ago Posted 7 hours ago 5 minutes ago, Old Codger said: Blackburn isn't Manchester, and we are certainly not England's 10th city! Friend of mine (Chelsea fan) says Man City have offered Β£149 million for one player (Palmer), which they have rejected, but they will take Β£250 million. The game is corrupted beyond any semblance of decency or morality. So I suppose a player moving from a well supported team in the relative backwaters of the Polish leagues to a second tier shambles for a few Zlotys more is easily explained... And it will, of course, only be a few Zlotys. But as you rightly point out, there is the opportunity to join a far more lucrative gravy train as a result of being in a better shop window. Money. Its a gas. Β Β£250,000,000 would feed the gaza strip and Africa. Sports gone out the game money talks. 5 Quote
Forever Blue Posted 7 hours ago Posted 7 hours ago Last season proved you donβt need a 20+ goal striker to have a good season. Did anyone even reach double figures in league goals?Β Β Β Quote
Forever Blue Posted 7 hours ago Posted 7 hours ago 2 minutes ago, superniko said: I think at a stretch we could say the squad is on a par with last season, IFΒ we replace Dolan (7 goals and 6 assists last season, impressive for non-set piece taker),Β ANDΒ we keep Brittain (unlikely) BUT, we are then just 1 year away from Travis, Hyam, Brittain and Tronstad (lets add Hedges too given he starts more than he doesn't) all leaving on a free transfer - and if that doesn't change soon, then you can bet your bottom dollar the first 4 will all be off next summer - and by god that squad will look like League 1 standard then. I donβt think itβs a stretch at all. Go position for position and tell me where we are weaker both in terms of first team and squad?Β Quote
RoversClitheroe Posted 7 hours ago Posted 7 hours ago 33 minutes ago, Forever Blue said: If you go position to position we are stronger in some and weaker in others. The obvious weaknesses are up front due to the loss of Dolan and Weimann. If we replace those 2 with the mooted RW and AM then the squad is no weaker than last season and in certain areas can be viewed as stronger.Β Β Β Sorry tell me where we've improved our squad?Β Not one player has been upgraded? Quote
alexanders Posted 7 hours ago Posted 7 hours ago 5 minutes ago, RoversTilliDie said: Derby have agreed with the Β£3,000,000 asking price for Brittain, how many is that now gone to Derby Weiman, Batt, Brittain and if you count Owen Beck who was at Ewood last season we will be playing Rovers away at pride park. Where is this from?Β Quote
Forever Blue Posted 7 hours ago Posted 7 hours ago 3 minutes ago, RoversClitheroe said: Sorry tell me where we've improved our squad?Β Not one player has been upgraded? No offence but youβre one of the βeverythingβs shitβ guys so the context would be lost on you.Β 1 Quote
superniko Posted 7 hours ago Posted 7 hours ago 1 minute ago, Forever Blue said: I donβt think itβs a stretch at all. Go position for position and tell me where we are weaker both in terms of first team and squad?Β We're weaker in attack - lost Dolan and Weimann (14 goals and 8 assists in the league between the two of them - do you think we've replaced that?) We're weaker at CB - we lost our best one from last season, we have a replacement granted, but it will be a huge ask to replicate Batth's presence for us. We've lost JRC - perhaps not a first-teamer, but regardless he is a utility player who can fit in RB, CM, RW - crucial in the Championship as we see every year with our relentless injuries Besides, I said at a stretch we could say we're on a par.Β Try and tell me where we're stronger than last season, CM perhaps is the only answer. Again, we've lost 20+ goal/assists from last season, and not even had a sniff at replacing them. Quote
Forever Blue Posted 6 hours ago Posted 6 hours ago Just now, superniko said: We're weaker in attack - lost Dolan and Weimann (14 goals and 8 assists in the league between the two of them - do you think we've replaced that?) We're weaker at CB - we lost our best one from last season, we have a replacement granted, but it will be a huge ask to replicate Batth's presence for us. We've lost JRC - perhaps not a first-teamer, but regardless he is a utility player who can fit in RB, CM, RW - crucial in the Championship as we see every year with our relentless injuries Besides, I said at a stretch we could say we're on a par.Β Try and tell me where we're stronger than last season, CM perhaps is the only answer. Again, we've lost 20+ goal/assists from last season, and not even had a sniff at replacing them. I mentioned we needed to replace Weimann and Dolan in my original post that you quoted. Not sure why youβre repeating that here, thatβs already factored in.Β Β Wharton and McLoughlin have effectively Β replaced Batth. We have no idea how that will pan out so to say weβre weaker is wrong as itβs unknowable.Β In every other position we are at least as strong, but in no way are we obviously weaker.Β Β Please list the exact positions we are weaker and explain why? 1 Quote
Exiled_Rover Posted 6 hours ago Posted 6 hours ago 6 minutes ago, superniko said: We're weaker in attack - lost Dolan and Weimann (14 goals and 8 assists in the league between the two of them - do you think we've replaced that?) We're weaker at CB - we lost our best one from last season, we have a replacement granted, but it will be a huge ask to replicate Batth's presence for us. We've lost JRC - perhaps not a first-teamer, but regardless he is a utility player who can fit in RB, CM, RW - crucial in the Championship as we see every year with our relentless injuries Besides, I said at a stretch we could say we're on a par.Β Try and tell me where we're stronger than last season, CM perhaps is the only answer. Again, we've lost 20+ goal/assists from last season, and not even had a sniff at replacing them. The JDT version of JRC is a miss - alas we haven't seen that player for a few years. He also couldn't play CM - they tried to play him there a few times and he was poor. Quote
Forever Blue Posted 6 hours ago Posted 6 hours ago 20 minutes ago, RoversTilliDie said: Derby have agreed with the Β£3,000,000 asking price for Brittain,Β Got a link? Quote
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