KentExile Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago 15 minutes ago, roverblue said: Exactly, Gested was in charge of contracts 1 year ago and still is now. Total bollocks being spoken by Ismael unless he now has the power to do the deals himself. He possibly/probably isn't, it is (an was) likely probably Pasha who has the ultimate say so However, if that is the case then Gestede is still culpable, as he has in effect, just provided a human shield for Pasha to hide behind 1 Quote
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davulsukur Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago (edited) 7 hours ago, roversfan99 said: I really dont get how showing frustration that Brittain etc should have been offered new deals last year considering that Gestede was here for that time is excluding him from blame. Plus he will be well aware that nothing has changed as we still havent renewed any contracts. Beside extending Ribeiro's strange initial 6 month deal. What was the last first team contract we renewed? (Riberio aside) I seem to remember reading it was back in 2023 but can't remember which player it was? Edited 3 hours ago by davulsukur Quote
KentExile Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago (edited) 7 minutes ago, davulsukur said: What was the last first team contract we renewed? (Riberio aside) I seem to remember it was back in 2023 but can't remember which player it was? Wharton December 2023 -Β https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/67665036 The last one who is still here (aside from Ribiero) was Pickering, the same week -Β https://www.rovers.co.uk/news/2023/december/07/pickering-pens-new-deal-/ And Szmodics was the week before Β Then they sidelined & sacked Broughton, presumably forΒ being proactiveΒ wasting money Edited 3 hours ago by KentExile 2 Quote
Old Codger Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago 11 minutes ago, roverblue said: Exactly, Gested was in charge of contracts 1 year ago and still is now. Total bollocks being spoken by Ismael unless he now has the power to do the deals himself. Isn't the main point that we have yet another manager starting to express concerns about the underlying broken approach - these are perhaps the first salvoes in the barrage that will ultimately drive a sufficiently large hole in VI's relationship with the club to justify his (inevitable) departure, once again under a gagging clause that prevents anything meaningful coming to light about how stupidly (dis)organised we are behind the scenes as a club.Β That's how I read his utterances anyway.Β Probably best to focus on what happens ON the pitch for the time being, because that is where the immediate future of BRFC is to be decided. The back room stuff is just noise and distraction to stop us knowing what is really going on here (which is perfectly well summarised in many of the pages preceding this). Oh for a leader like Kenny, oh for a chairman like John, oh for the days when we won stuff, oh but those days are long gone... Oh for winger like handbag, oh for a striker like Al; oh for some matchday excitement, oh for the stands to be full...Oh for defenders like Samba, oh for Si Garner on fire, oh what has happened to Ewood, oh don't we all like a trier? Oh for a goalie with bottle, oh for a change can't we trust? Oh for fucks sake what a shit-show, oh for some wankers we're lost. VENKYS OUT! 4 Quote
davulsukur Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago 8 minutes ago, KentExile said: Wharton December 2023 -Β https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/67665036 The last one who is still here (aside from Ribiero) was Pickering, the same week -Β https://www.rovers.co.uk/news/2023/december/07/pickering-pens-new-deal-/ And Szmodics was the week before Β Then they sidelined & sacked Broughton, presumably forΒ being proactiveΒ wasting money Thanks. Absolutely insane the way this club is run. 5 Quote
KentExile Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago (edited) 7 minutes ago, davulsukur said: Thanks. Absolutely insane the way this club is run. I know I wonder how long it will be before Rovers renew the contracts of 3 first team players contracts in under a month again?Β Even 3 in a season seems fanciful Edited 3 hours ago by KentExile Quote
davulsukur Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago 5 minutes ago, KentExile said: I know I wonder how long it will be before Rovers renew the contracts of 3 first team players contracts in under a month again?Β Even 3 in a season seems fanciful Don't worry. Hyam was "close" to signing a new contract at least 3 weeks ago now....... 3 Quote
Tyrone Shoelaces Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago (edited) 10 hours ago, roverandout said: Alex Scott is a very good playerΒ He looks pretty ordinary to me. Another one who can run a bit, pass the ball a bit, tackle a bit, head it a bit, Β have a shot from time to time, look busy. if he wasnβt English nobody would be commenting on him. Wharton is twice the player he is. Wharton can make things happen. Edited 3 hours ago by Tyrone Shoelaces 2 Quote
KentExile Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago 6 minutes ago, davulsukur said: Don't worry. Hyam was "close" to signing a new contract at least 3 weeks ago now....... Maybe they just meant close (in proximity) to a new contract, as Pasha had sneaked one under his mattress 3 Quote
RevidgeBlue Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago Just heard on the Talksport News that Tyler Morton is going to Lyon (I think they said) for Β£15m!!!!! That's at least Β£14m more than he's worth imo. Really poor player in my book. 7 Quote
Paul Mellelieu Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago I do like VI's media persona. Β Never warmed to JE. 4 1 Quote
Tyrone Shoelaces Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago 2 minutes ago, RevidgeBlue said: Just heard on the Talksport News that Tyler Morton is going to Lyon (I think they said) for Β£15m!!!!! That's at least Β£14m more than he's worth imo. Really poor player in my book. We seem to produce players like this all the time. Very average. See Scott snd Hackney. Β They can do the basics but none of them have that game changing Β β X β factor that Wharton has. 4 Quote
davulsukur Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago 7 minutes ago, TheKitGuy said: Dele Alli pay as you play. No brainer.Β It's very much a no brainer to not offer him anything. 1 game, in which he lasted just 9mins, in over 2 years. The lad clearly has issues, understandably so when you hear about his childhood but he's done. He's not regaining anything near to what he had before.Β He'll bounce between some obscure clubs before retiring in 2 years time. Massive shame, had the world at his feet at one point.Β 4 Quote
RevidgeBlue Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago 17 minutes ago, Paul Mellelieu said: I do like VI's media persona. Β Never warmed to JE. Im exactly the opposite. Thought Eustace came across as a very nice guy but not someone to cross. Can't warm to VI at all, but at the end of the day couldn't really care less about what either say. It's results on the pitch that count. Quote
TheKitGuy Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago 2 minutes ago, davulsukur said: It's very much a no brainer to not offer him anything. 1 game, in which he lasted just 9mins, in over 2 years. The lad clearly has issues, understandably so when you hear about his childhood but he's done. He's not regaining anything near to what he had before.Β He'll bounce between some obscure clubs before retiring in 2 years time. Massive shame, had the world at his feet at one point.Β Even if he was at 50% of what he used to have he'd still be better than some and will be invaluable to the kids coming through. pay as you play is the only way it would ever work for him at any club now.Β Quote
Emerald Isle Rover Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago 1 minute ago, TheKitGuy said: Even if he was at 50% of what he used to have he'd still be better than some and will be invaluable to the kids coming through. pay as you play is the only way it would ever work for him at any club now.Β Invaluable to the kids? How so he got a straight red in his 9mins of football in well over a yearΒ he was given a chance and he blew it needs to get his head sorted and if he wishes to continue a career in football itl likely start lower than champ level 1 Quote
Theaxe15 Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago 23 minutes ago, TheKitGuy said: Dele Alli pay as you play. No brainer.Β He is a no brainer in a way, youβre rightΒ Quote
TheKitGuy Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago 16 minutes ago, Emerald Isle Rover said: Invaluable to the kids? How so he got a straight red in his 9mins of football in well over a yearΒ he was given a chance and he blew it needs to get his head sorted and if he wishes to continue a career in football itl likely start lower than champ level Surely him having the world at his feet and now having absolutely nothing in terms of offers etc he will be able to provide knowledge i.e do's and don'ts. it's not like would be on 50k p/w he'd be on PAYP so it'll be upto him to prove it to himself..Β Β Let's face it he's not coming anyway so it doesn't really matter. was all hypothetical like 99% of this thread.Β Quote
KentExile Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago (edited) 20 minutes ago, TheKitGuy said: Surely him having the world at his feet and now having absolutely nothing in terms of offers etc he will be able to provide knowledge i.e do's and don'ts. it's not like would be on 50k p/w he'd be on PAYP so it'll be upto him to prove it to himself..Β Β Let's face it he's not coming anyway so it doesn't really matter. was all hypothetical like 99% of this thread.Β If he ever gets his career back on track, then I will concede that he may have figured out the do's & don'ts Until then..... Edited 2 hours ago by KentExile 1 Quote
rovers11 Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago A good chance two signings will be announced today. Probably waiting on Boro to confirm Brittain has completed his medical etc and then the announcement will be timed with when Boro announce Brittain to soften the blow. Quote
Tomphil2 Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 1 hour ago, Paul Mellelieu said: I do like VI's media persona. Β Never warmed to JE. I thought at times JE came across as just going through the motions without his heart being in the job but to be fair we now know he was pissed off and at odds with his bosses for months before he left. I think if you are familiar with his interviews at Brum and now Derby he sounds pretty much the same though, it's just his manner. Some come across as wooden, some are more relaxed because they've seen and done it a thousand times, i'd put VI in that category. Some light up the screen - JDT, some go off on pure waffle - TM and some are pure Starmer = Kean ! 2 Quote
Wing Wizard Windy Miller Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago (edited) Thought this was an interestingΒ few lines from todays LET.Β First time Ismael let slip the experience card.Β Β "We have no more injuries and weβre taking the positives today because we shouldβve scored more goals. The second half was much better, very good.β Β βWe had more kids on the pitch in the first half so I think that made a difference,β he added. Β βWe had more experience, more pace and we knew what the opponent wanted to do so we could make the press right. Β Edited 1 hour ago by Wing Wizard Windy Miller 1 Quote
Exiled_Rover Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 6 minutes ago, rovers11 said: A good chance two signings will be announced today. Probably waiting on Boro to confirm Brittain has completed his medical etc and then the announcement will be timed with when Boro announce Brittain to soften the blow. Think it's more down to us not having the finances to green light our moves without Boro paying us for Brittain. We're in a chain. 1 Quote
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