2025 Summer Transfer Thread. 😂

[roversfan99]

1 hour ago, chaddyrovers said:

And another? How many do you want? 11 players for 4 positions. Woah

Again, you are fixated with numbers as if each of those "11" is equal.

Are there enough goals? No. Is there enough creativity? No. Is there enough pace? No. Our attack is nowhere near good enough. It shouldnt be a case of have we enough warm bodies, it should be do we have the necessary quality.

For the positions up to the attacking ones, roughly 2 for 1 position is sufficient. In attack, especially if we want to play a high press. Especially now you can name 5 subs from 9, so you are likely going through 7 or 8 a game, and more often than not at least 1 or 2 will be missing through injury. We never want to get to the stage where you dont have enough options on the bench to bring on fresh legs.

If we get a right winger and a striker that are good enough, fine. I fear that we wont even get 2, just 1. That wouldnt be enough, either bodies or crucially quality.

For what its worth, we have lost Dolan, Weimann, ACD, Dennis and Woodrow from last season. Obviously 3 of those 5 were crap, 2 are big losses. But even if we did sign 3 more attackers, we would only be back to where we were numerically, and even then at times with injuries we were light on the bench.

[Paul Mani]

FWIW I think the plan is to sign / have two senior or first team standard players for each position. Then back up with the academy where they have one ready:

GK - Toth, Pears (Michalski)

RB - Miller, Alebiosu (Montgomery)

Lcb - Wharton, McLauchlan 

Rcb - Hyam, Carter 

LB - Ribeiro, Pickering

DM - Sonny, Forshaw, (Montgomery)

CM - Trav, Tavares 

AM - Cantwell, Henriksson (Tyjon)

RAM - NEW, Hedges

LAM - De Neve, Kargbo

ST - Ohashi, Gueye, (Leonard) (Tyjon)

Based on this, the only glaring need is RAM, which is aligned to what Rudy / VI are saying. The rest will come down to any sales and replacements.

I reckon after the RAM, you’re looking at a loan to cover Carter, a keeper if / when Pears leaves, and Baradji if / when Trav leaves.

Fully expect Buckley and probably Garrett to leave permanently, with the likes of Duru and Batty to go out on loan. Will likely be a question of which of the other academy grads they believe are good enough to play out of Pratt? Edmondson? Mularkey Matthews? Let’s see.

Also - I personally like the idea of Myoshi, who would be a great addition, but I just don’t see it, unless it’s much cheaper than £2m. We wouldn’t drop that money on a 28yr old with no resell potential. I have no doubt, he’s ’on The list’ but it wouldn’t surprise me if the story has been leaked from his camp to flush out buyers. The only way I see it happening is for a much reduced fee. I’m also dubious about the way this has come out, because players we sign don’t tend to come out like this. We don’t seem to court them publicly, it usually goes from 0-100 fast. 

Edited 8 hours ago by Paul Mani

[yankfan]

Could you beam Trav for not signing a new contract?  Sure he’s our captain and came up through our academy, but it was just 2 years ago we sent him out on loan to save on wages. Basically telling him he’s not good enough, then a year later he started nearly every match and was our captain. Doesn’t exactly make you feel like the club truly values him

[KentExile]

18 minutes ago, yankfan said:

Could you beam Trav for not signing a new contract?  Sure he’s our captain and came up through our academy, but it was just 2 years ago we sent him out on loan to save on wages. Basically telling him he’s not good enough, then a year later he started nearly every match and was our captain. Doesn’t exactly make you feel like the club truly values him

Or it could have been that JDT didn't rate him, but others at the club did, which is why he was loaned rather than sold so that he was still here for when JDT (who was unhappy & had already apparently offered to resign at least once at this point) left 

The main issue for me was once JDT did leave & once Championship football was secured on the last day of the season, that contracts were not immediately offered (at decent Championship pay rates) for Travis, Tronstad & Brittain in the summer of 2024.  But as ever, Rovers tried to kick the can down the road for an extra year to save a few quid.  That is what will have told those players that they were not valued as highly as perhaps they should be

[Exiled_Rover]

https://x.com/RoversXtra/status/1953703013333577950?t=2AMKh-RBUbF_ORFaJX_Jfg&s=19

 

I could see Hyam being sold to finance this transfer - assume it's bollocks though.

[KentExile]

2 minutes ago, Exiled_Rover said:

https://x.com/RoversXtra/status/1953703013333577950?t=2AMKh-RBUbF_ORFaJX_Jfg&s=19

 

I could see Hyam being sold to finance this transfer - assume it's bollocks though.

We were linked with him before McLoughlin signed, as he was one of the left footed options looked a,but it would seem a strange decision to revisit that with Wharton & McLoughlin now both here, fit & available

Especially at the reported price

[BankEnd Rover]

4 minutes ago, KentExile said:

We were linked with him before McLoughlin signed, as he was one of the left footed options looked a,but it would seem a strange decision to revisit that with Wharton & McLoughlin now both here, fit & available

Especially at the reported price

Agreed, it'll be an outdated link or his agent. 

[Exiled_Rover]

3 hours ago, Paul Mani said:

FWIW I think the plan is to sign / have two senior or first team standard players for each position. Then back up with the academy where they have one ready:

GK - Toth, Pears (Michalski)

RB - Miller, Alebiosu (Montgomery)

Lcb - Wharton, McLauchlan 

Rcb - Hyam, Carter 

LB - Ribeiro, Pickering

DM - Sonny, Forshaw, (Montgomery)

CM - Trav, Tavares 

AM - Cantwell, Henriksson (Tyjon)

RAM - NEW, Hedges

LAM - De Neve, Kargbo

ST - Ohashi, Gueye, (Leonard) (Tyjon)

Based on this, the only glaring need is RAM, which is aligned to what Rudy / VI are saying. The rest will come down to any sales and replacements.

I reckon after the RAM, you’re looking at a loan to cover Carter, a keeper if / when Pears leaves, and Baradji if / when Trav leaves.

Fully expect Buckley and probably Garrett to leave permanently, with the likes of Duru and Batty to go out on loan. Will likely be a question of which of the other academy grads they believe are good enough to play out of Pratt? Edmondson? Mularkey Matthews? Let’s see.

Also - I personally like the idea of Myoshi, who would be a great addition, but I just don’t see it, unless it’s much cheaper than £2m. We wouldn’t drop that money on a 28yr old with no resell potential. I have no doubt, he’s ’on The list’ but it wouldn’t surprise me if the story has been leaked from his camp to flush out buyers. The only way I see it happening is for a much reduced fee. I’m also dubious about the way this has come out, because players we sign don’t tend to come out like this. We don’t seem to court them publicly, it usually goes from 0-100 fast. 

I agree that's the plan - but for mine Leonard needs a season starting in L1 (or L2 until Christmas if we can't find him an acceptable L1 role - he NEEDS football). Sitting on the bench after so long out will do him no favours.

Along with that CM, and assuming we keep Tyjon, we need a starting RW who's bloody good and then I'd be inclined to loan a third choice CF from a PL team to give us an option off the bench. Preferably one with pace - in fact that's the one attribute I'd target above all else with that loan.

If you look at other mid-table and above teams, they all have attacking options on the bench to throw on. 

Currently we have the option of sticking Ohashi at 10 behind Gueye (depending on which one starts) and erm... Kargbo as an impact sub?

If anyone loses form or gets injured we're really scratching around in attack.

[Emerald Isle Rover]

That nade link is nonsense or well outdated

[roversfan99]

4 hours ago, Paul Mani said:

FWIW I think the plan is to sign / have two senior or first team standard players for each position. Then back up with the academy where they have one ready:

GK - Toth, Pears (Michalski)

RB - Miller, Alebiosu (Montgomery)

Lcb - Wharton, McLauchlan 

Rcb - Hyam, Carter 

LB - Ribeiro, Pickering

DM - Sonny, Forshaw, (Montgomery)

CM - Trav, Tavares 

AM - Cantwell, Henriksson (Tyjon)

RAM - NEW, Hedges

LAM - De Neve, Kargbo

ST - Ohashi, Gueye, (Leonard) (Tyjon)

Based on this, the only glaring need is RAM, which is aligned to what Rudy / VI are saying. The rest will come down to any sales and replacements.

I reckon after the RAM, you’re looking at a loan to cover Carter, a keeper if / when Pears leaves, and Baradji if / when Trav leaves.

Fully expect Buckley and probably Garrett to leave permanently, with the likes of Duru and Batty to go out on loan. Will likely be a question of which of the other academy grads they believe are good enough to play out of Pratt? Edmondson? Mularkey Matthews? Let’s see.

Also - I personally like the idea of Myoshi, who would be a great addition, but I just don’t see it, unless it’s much cheaper than £2m. We wouldn’t drop that money on a 28yr old with no resell potential. I have no doubt, he’s ’on The list’ but it wouldn’t surprise me if the story has been leaked from his camp to flush out buyers. The only way I see it happening is for a much reduced fee. I’m also dubious about the way this has come out, because players we sign don’t tend to come out like this. We don’t seem to court them publicly, it usually goes from 0-100 fast. 

Not enough goals or speed in that squad.

You need more than that in the attacking areas quantity wise too especially if you plan to press high.

[MarkBRFC]

13 hours ago, ROVER_N_OUT1978 said:

I call bull, we wouldnt sell our captain on the eve of the new season surely 

Are you new to venkys rovers?!

11 hours ago, Tomphil2 said:

We start with Travis and Trondstat and try and get as many points as possible on the board first few months then gradually integrate a new look midfield. 

Trav is ok with this as they've a gentleman's agreement he'll see out his contract and leave or be sold/loaned in Jan if he's out of the team.

Or is that far too sensible.

I do actually think that is the plan, if they persist with Baradji then come the opening day of next season our midfield 3 will be Baradji, Taveres & Henriksson replacing Trav, Tronstad and Cantwell.

8 hours ago, Andy said:

The funniest part of all these ex-Rovers joining Eustace is, once he fucks off the moment another club shows the slightest bit of interest in him, they'll all be stuck at a club like Derby.

Better there than being stuck at venkys rovers you could argue.

[Ricky]

Interesting people saying Myoshi has no sell on value at 28. I disagree. Birmingham have paid €9m for Kyogi who is 30. I’m sure he could still recoup a profit in 2 years if he performs here.

[RoyWegerlesLeftToe]

On paper I don't mind losing trav and hyam for profit with suitable replacements. But on the eve of the season, come on guys... 

[Paul Mani]

1 hour ago, Exiled_Rover said:

I agree that's the plan - but for mine Leonard needs a season starting in L1 (or L2 until Christmas if we can't find him an acceptable L1 role - he NEEDS football). Sitting on the bench after so long out will do him no favours.

Along with that CM, and assuming we keep Tyjon, we need a starting RW who's bloody good and then I'd be inclined to loan a third choice CF from a PL team to give us an option off the bench. Preferably one with pace - in fact that's the one attribute I'd target above all else with that loan.

If you look at other mid-table and above teams, they all have attacking options on the bench to throw on. 

Currently we have the option of sticking Ohashi at 10 behind Gueye (depending on which one starts) and erm... Kargbo as an impact sub?

If anyone loses form or gets injured we're really scratching around in attack.

Agreed - I think they’ve still got to have a couple of exciting forward loans in the pipeline to beef up squad depth. Pace would be great.

 

24 minutes ago, roversfan99 said:

Not enough goals or speed in that squad.

You need more than that in the attacking areas quantity wise too especially if you plan to press high.

Yes, I would tend to agree on both points but it does appear to be the plan.

in terms of goals, I suppose we have to trust VI. He’s watching them play day in, day out and you don’t get the impression that he’s unhappy with the plan or hankering after another striker. I don’t see any reason why Ohashi and Gueye can’t get 25 between them. Meaning you’re looking for 40 from the other attacking players (looks short) and then a sprinkling from our midfield and defenders.

But we look REALLY light on numbers for when injuries come along.

Hopefully we will pad the squad out with a few loans at the end of the window.

[roversfan99]

5 minutes ago, Paul Mani said:

Agreed - I think they’ve still got to have a couple of exciting forward loans in the pipeline to beef up squad depth. Pace would be great.

 

Yes, I would tend to agree on both points but it does appear to be the plan.

in terms of goals, I suppose we have to trust VI. He’s watching them play day in, day out and you don’t get the impression that he’s unhappy with the plan or hankering after another striker. I don’t see any reason why Ohashi and Gueye can’t get 25 between them. Meaning you’re looking for 40 from the other attacking players (looks short) and then a sprinkling from our midfield and defenders.

But we look REALLY light on numbers for when injuries come along.

Hopefully we will pad the squad out with a few loans at the end of the window.

Im not sure however we sign necessarily means that Ismael has specifically asked for that number.

Even if he doesnt kick up a fuss, he isnt in control of finances.

Even if the budget only stretches in terms of fees for another winger. And I get why we would prioritise permanent signings. We would be stupid not to then loan a couple on top. Extra pace and depth as you say and also extra quality.

Edited 4 hours ago by roversfan99

[pick32]

Don’t mind losing Hyam but we have lost allot of championship experience and English players, we must keep Trav

[roversfan99]

Id rather not lose our best centre back.

[MarkBRFC]

Obviously a lot can happen in a year, but I do wonder what next summers recruitment will look like when we lose Travis, Tronstad, Hyam and Hedges, and most likely try to bundle Carter and Cantwell through the door with likely having no ESC spots available to replace them with.

Going to make recruitment all that bit tougher next summer.

[Neal]

36 minutes ago, Ricky said:

Interesting people saying Myoshi has no sell on value at 28. I disagree. Birmingham have paid €9m for Kyogi who is 30. I’m sure he could still recoup a profit in 2 years if he performs here.

It's a fair point, we sold Szmodics at 29 for decent cash it just doesn't give us as much time to recoup it. He would literally have to smash it this season. 

[MarkBRFC]

Plus, resale value isn't needed on every single signing.

[Tyrone Shoelaces]

19 hours ago, rigger said:

A good delivery is a good delivery, practice makes perfect.

We all know where the ball needs to go. Beating the first man would be nice.

[Tyrone Shoelaces]

13 hours ago, RevidgeBlue said:

Yeah, we ain't been stockpiling midfielders just for the love of it or for no reason I wouldn't imagine.

Is it a Ken Knighton moment ? Having said that Knighton was twice the player Travis is. He was as hard as nails but didn’t go around beating his chest about it.

Edited 3 hours ago by Tyrone Shoelaces

[Waggy76]

7 minutes ago, Tyrone Shoelaces said:

Is it a Ken Knighton moment ? Having said that Knighton was twice the player Travis is. He was as hard as nails but didn’t go around beating his chest about it.

Quite possibly , we got relegated soon after his departure and never reappeared until 1975. 

Ironically 50 years ago , for the 100 years of the club..

Venkys Out !

[KentExile]

23 minutes ago, MarkBRFC said:

Plus, resale value isn't needed on every single signing.

at normal clubs at least

 

Even then,. there is "hidden resale value" in the senior players giving on the field advice to younger ones

Edited 3 hours ago by KentExile

[sharpysharps86]

Why on earth is one of those Rovers twitter / X accounts banging on about Mahrez as a potential signing!? 🤣😂

It's giving Netflix Sunderland documentary