2025 Summer Transfer Thread. 😂

[DutchRover]

I miss the days "transition" meant going from attack to defence or vice-versa, and not the gutting of a squad to save money

[miqaayil]

2 hours ago, TommyRovers said:

How Jerome Anderson managed to do so much damage, avoid media scrutiny (despite media darling Alex Ferguson’s comments) and walk away Scot free is criminal.

The man was a grade A slimy cunt. Nasty piece of work. A huge reason why we are where we are.

he's still here through suhail ....his proxy 

[CambridgeRover]

Sorry just what in the hell is going on? No CEO, Travis leaving or staying, no incomings? Even for venkys this is a mess

[miqaayil]

4 hours ago, JHRover said:

There's clearly no intention to sell or to get us back to the PL.

Those who believe that they are keeping us with a view to getting back to the PL to recover their investment I think are deluded.

The only calculations they need to be thinking about are whether they want another 10 years of funding a Championship / League One club to the tune of £10 million+ a year, ultimately costing them a further £100 million or more on top of what it has already cost, or whether they are better putting a stop to it now, stopping the drain of money and handing it over for a nominal amount to someone willing to try and better the club. 

 

For gods sake guys .....all monies spent till now is monitization of SBI instrument and borrowed against ... which is why court case triggered for non-intended expenditure and court ask them put their own monies as collateral ... not spending double like media and PR circus... if they sell the club instrument will be called and they need to repay loan ..so they'll keep kicking the can down the road till they can politically write off as bad debt in SBI

3 possible scenario for loan to be bad debt in INDIA

I) borrowing signitory dies, 

II) lynchpin who brokered this(suhail) loses confidence or dies 

III) Venky's get enough political clout to exit this mess

this could be all my paranoia 😄

 

[BRFC.]

1 hour ago, MarkBRFC said:

Looks like "transition" season is going to be the new buzzword this season, with VI mentioning it in every single interview.

I swear it’s a transition season every season 

[Old Codger]

4 hours ago, JHRover said:

There's clearly no intention to sell or to get us back to the PL.

Those who believe that they are keeping us with a view to getting back to the PL to recover their investment I think are deluded.

The only calculations they need to be thinking about are whether they want another 10 years of funding a Championship / League One club to the tune of £10 million+ a year, ultimately costing them a further £100 million or more on top of what it has already cost, or whether they are better putting a stop to it now, stopping the drain of money and handing it over for a nominal amount to someone willing to try and better the club. 

 

It is as clear a case of the Sunk Cost Fallacy as I've ever come across..

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[Mattyblue]

Never made clear what we are actually transitioning to… apart from the lower leagues.

[aletheia]

31 minutes ago, miqaayil said:

For gods sake guys .....all monies spent till now is monitization of SBI instrument and borrowed against ... which is why court case triggered for non-intended expenditure and court ask them put their own monies as collateral ... not spending double like media and PR circus... if they sell the club instrument will be called and they need to repay loan ..so they'll keep kicking the can down the road till they can politically write off as bad debt in SBI

3 possible scenario for loan to be bad debt in INDIA

I) borrowing signitory dies, 

II) lynchpin who brokered this(suhail) loses confidence or dies 

III) Venky's get enough political clout to exit this mess

Could you elaborate further?

What is this SBI instrument? (bank?)
How much did they borrow? Are you saying that amount is now spent and this is the reason for the dramatic budget cuts?
If it is an Indian bank, what are the terms of payback? Can it just go on indefinitely?
Who is the borrowing signitory (sic)?

Are you suggesting that the only way the Raos leave is if one of i-iii of your list happens?

 

[bluebruce]

34 minutes ago, aletheia said:

Could you elaborate further?

What is this SBI instrument? (bank?)
How much did they borrow? Are you saying that amount is now spent and this is the reason for the dramatic budget cuts?
If it is an Indian bank, what are the terms of payback? Can it just go on indefinitely?
Who is the borrowing signitory (sic)?

Are you suggesting that the only way the Raos leave is if one of i-iii of your list happens?

 

SBI is the State Bank of India. We (or Venkys at least, to fund us) certainly do borrow from them quite a lot (I think in the fairly early days we stopped using Barclays, I might be misremembering but I think they weren't really willing to sign off on an increased overdraft facility). I don't know how much of what they send us is borrowed from SBI though. They've borrowed with their land in India as collateral before.

[wilsdenrover]

1 hour ago, BRFC. said:

I swear it’s a transition season every season 

Sometimes we transition multiple times within a season too.

[Waggy76]

Summer transfer news , seems to have fallen off a cliff , anybody think like me that the powers that be , will be doing sweet FA until 

Friday August 29th at the earliest ?

Then scrambling for a Bournemouth and Boscombe young reserve team player , that  nobody else is interested in !

[lraC]

2 hours ago, BRFC. said:

What about the fees from Raya, Wharton, Szmodics and Brittain + Gallagher and wahlstedt????

They don’t count, didn’t you know?

Its only about £40m and we don’t get it all at once. 

[wilsdenrover]

The last money Venkys sent over was to cover contractual and statutory obligations for March - June.

I think our transfer dealings are now with the intent of ‘keeping the lights on’.

I’d be amazed if we spend even a tiny fraction of any more fees we bring in.

[Emerald Isle Rover]

26 minutes ago, Waggy76 said:

Summer transfer news , seems to have fallen off a cliff , anybody think like me that the powers that be , will be doing sweet FA until 

Friday August 29th at the earliest ?

Then scrambling for a Bournemouth and Boscombe young reserve team player , that  nobody else is interested in !

Totally inexplicable that a right winger has not been identified and brought in

worse again that a striker isn’t even on the agenda 

and just for the hat trick it looks very likely we will be replacing Travis with a player who either now or some stage soon will be out for 12/16weeks

inept 

[KentExile]

19 minutes ago, wilsdenrover said:

I’d be amazed if we spend even a tiny fraction of any more fees we bring in.

Seeing as income does not impact the budget, I am sure you are right 😉 

Just finished the Glen Mullan pod, I must have missed it at the time, but apparently Pasha has never even asked Venkys about the possibility of Rovers using x% of any money from transfer fees received to build the squad!

 

Edited 2 hours ago by KentExile

[neophox]

Just more bullshit talk from Rovers.....no signings...this will be a very tough season. Nothing to look forward to at this club.

[TimmyJimmy]

3 hours ago, MarkBRFC said:

Looks like "transition" season is going to be the new buzzword this season, with VI mentioning it in every single interview.

Yes. I'm sick of the 'projects'. Time we had something new.

[yankfan]

2 hours ago, Old Codger said:

It is as clear a case of the Sunk Cost Fallacy as I've ever come across..

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noun

 

1. the phenomenon whereby a person is reluctant to abandon a strategy or course of action because they have invested heavily in it, even when it is clear that abandonment would be more beneficial.

I’d argue they’ve abandoned it, just not sold it off. 

[yankfan]

8 minutes ago, TimmyJimmy said:

Yes. I'm sick of the 'projects'. Time we had something new.

Hard to believe we’re in need of a “transition” to a new “project” when we were 1 point off the play offs and returned everyone sans Dolan, Batth and Weiman. All of whom could have been retained or replaced given we offered fair contracts. All that was required to push on was a Striker and a winger to compete. We’ve now taken a giant step back for what?  It’s fucking madness. 

[simongarnerisgod]

if you look at norwich,they sold sainz and rowe for big money and have invested in six really good players,they are now promotion candidates

we sold smzodics and wharton for big money and invested **** all,we are now relegation material

when is the penny going to drop for all fans to start getting really annoyed

 

[miqaayil]

2 hours ago, aletheia said:

Could you elaborate further?

What is this SBI instrument? (bank?)
How much did they borrow? Are you saying that amount is now spent and this is the reason for the dramatic budget cuts?
If it is an Indian bank, what are the terms of payback? Can it just go on indefinitely?
Who is the borrowing signitory (sic)?

Are you suggesting that the only way the Raos leave is if one of i-iii of your list happens?

 

SBI is STATE BANK OF INDIA , instrument could be BG(BANK GUARANTEE) or SBLC or any type of promissory of payment ...another bank gives OD or LOAN TO VALUE on this ...spend & milk till exhaust ... declare loss ... SBI Goes after collateral... they will writ of stay from courts... case goes on and on and on and on... 

budget cuts happening for 2 reasons possible  ...  restrictions due to mishandling court case or funds dried up (udder is empty) 

i can't think of IV.....

again purely speculative ...my first boss taught me "FOLLOW THE MONEY, YOU'LL FIND THE MOTIVE"

E.g inflated agent fees, inflated running cost(kickbacks) or even letting contract lapse so division in next contract agent fees ....

 

i could be imagining all this ..paranoid schizophrenia 

[Emerald Isle Rover]

19 minutes ago, simongarnerisgod said:

if you look at norwich,they sold sainz and rowe for big money and have invested in six really good players,they are now promotion candidates

we sold smzodics and wharton for big money and invested **** all,we are now relegation material

when is the penny going to drop for all fans to start getting really annoyed

 

The majority of fans are annoyed but it’s pretty simple no matter what the fans do or plan to do venkys have no intention of selling until they recoup id say 80/90% of their losses it seems

on the above it’s so obvious multiple clubs do the exact same millwall being a good example 

 

[BRFC.]

38 minutes ago, yankfan said:

Hard to believe we’re in need of a “transition” to a new “project” when we were 1 point off the play offs and returned everyone sans Dolan, Batth and Weiman. All of whom could have been retained or replaced given we offered fair contracts. All that was required to push on was a Striker and a winger to compete. We’ve now taken a giant step back for what?  It’s fucking madness. 

Exactly, a normal football club keeps and extends the core group. Let go of a few who won’t be good enough and add to it, nope just rip the core group 🤦‍♂️ just waiting for the exciting summer to commence🙃

[SuperBrfc]

1 hour ago, KentExile said:

Seeing as income does not impact the budget, I am sure you are right 😉 

Just finished the Glen Mullan pod, I must have missed it at the time, but apparently Pasha has never even asked Venkys about the possibility of Rovers using x% of any money from transfer fees received to build the squad!

 

That's right. No thought for reinvestment. No thought for improving the team. No thought for promotion.

He also arrogantly said "I'm not going to ask them for £15m-20m, it's not sustainable".

The context to this...he stated in a previous meeting that he was going to ask the owners for a bigger budget for this summer. When questioned on this by Glen at the fans forum meeting, the above was his retort.

Pasha also stressed that the budget will not be affected at all by player sales. Even in the hypothetical scenario that Gueye was sold for £20m, the budget does not increase. It remains fixed as it is.

So lets get this straight:

1) Pasha has never asked the owners about using a percentage of transfer fees received to reinvest into the squad.

2) Transfer fees received do not impact on the budget at all. It will not increase.

3) Pasha believes spending more doesn't guarantee a jump in League position (apply the same wisdom to the idea of promotion)

4) Pasha did not ask the owners for a bigger budget and won't ask for £15m-20m as it's not sustainable.

On the latter...he seems to be deciding off his own back what is, and what isn't, sustainable. Why doesn't he let them decide that? Also, how many times over the last 10 years has he had this thought and therefore refrained from asking the owners for money? I wonder...

He's on £500k a year and has been here for 10 years. Why is he here and for what purpose? He isn't advising the owners on promotion, so what advice is he giving?

There's something not adding up here.

Without any doubt, our fanbase must unite to drive this obstacle out. The podcast with Glen is a great starting point to educate people on what we are dealing with.

There's no way Pasha is on our side here, for me. He isn't Rovers. His arrogance, his dismissive answers and his disdain for Rovers fans attending a meeting shows that. He needs booting out.

Edited 28 minutes ago by SuperBrfc

[miqaayil]

3 minutes ago, SuperBrfc said:

That's right. No thought for reinvestment. No thought for improving the team. No thought for promotion.

He also arrogantly said "I'm not going to ask them for £15m-20m, it's not sustainable".

The context to this...he stated in a previous meeting that he was going to ask the owners for a bigger budget for this summer. When questioned on this by Glen at the fans forum meeting, the above was his retort.

Pasha also stressed that the budget will not be affected at all by player sales. Even in the hypothetical scenario that Gueye was sold for £20m, the budget does not increase. It remains fixed as it is.

So lets get this straight:

1) Pasha has never asked the owners about using a percentage of transfer received to reinvest into the squad.

2) Transfer fees received do not impact on the budget at all. It will not increase.

3) Pasha believes spending more doesn't guarantee a jump in League position (apply the same wisdom to the idea of promotion)

4) Pasha did not ask the owners for a bigger budget and won't ask for £15m-20m as it's not sustainable.

On the latter...he seems to be deciding off his own back what is, and what isn't, sustainable. Why doesn't he let them decide that? Also, how many times over the last 10 years has he had this thought and this refrained from asking the owners for money?

He's on £500k a year and has been here for 10 years. Why is he and for what purpose? He isn't advising the owners on promotion, so what advice is he giving?

There's something not adding up here.

Without any doubt, our fanbase must unite to drive this out. The podcast with Glen is a great starting point to educate people on what we are dealing with.

There's no way Pasha is on our side here. He isn't Rovers. His arrogance, his dismissive answers and his disdain for Rovers fans attending a meeting shows that. He needs booting out.

Nobody ...i mean NOBODY can and will boot him... not even Venkys ... its pasha's PROJECT ...Venky's are on for the ride