2025 Summer Transfer Thread. 😂

[Andy]

41 minutes ago, Paul Mellelieu said:

I  thought selling players wouldn't help our transfer fund.  What changed?

I'm sure the club advised of a c£5m budget this summer - and we've spent just under that, so far.

Maybe Travis leaving has finally freed up a bit of additional funds.

[roversfan99]

Brittain £3m. Travis £3m. Buckley and JRC an extra £1m each.

[Exiled_Rover]

2 hours ago, Ossydave said:

Led to believe Leonard has been told to not even bother showing for training as he has no future at the club, same for Buckley.

I feel for Leonard, we all really wanted him to progress but his body just says nope far more than it should at his age.

Buckley as I've said many times before, simply doesn't appear to have the desire to succeed here or anywhere, odd player, odd attitude. 

Yeah that's a disgusting way to treat your players - especially Academy graduates!

[47er]

1 hour ago, M_B said:

Nothing. 

The transfer window is still open and the playing squad won't be finalised until it's closed. 

I thought we were told that the transfer budget had been set and that future sales would not change it?

[Exiled_Rover]

1 hour ago, Ossydave said:

Travis fee, Buckley fee, Leonard maybe 200k or something? Plus wages. Their replacements will be on wages sub 10k a week... 

Add Pears to that list too. 

Let's say Brittain was £3m. Travis will be £1.5m (+ whatever add ons). We've been told Buckley is circa £1m. JRC is down as £800k on Transfermarkt. 

That's £6.3m, with whatever we get for Pears and Leonard on top. 

Factor in the wage savings of Brittain, Travis, Weimann, Batth, Dolan and you're looking at quite a lot of money to play with (by our standards under these owners).

[Exiled_Rover]

59 minutes ago, Paul Mellelieu said:

I  thought selling players wouldn't help our transfer fund.  What changed?

It's looking like Gestede just blurted out something stupid on a podcast because right now it's like for like replacements. One in, one out, with the one in being much cheaper. 

[Exiled_Rover]

2 hours ago, Tomphil2 said:

Buckley has coasted through his time here and will continue coasting wherever he ends up once he's got the ink dry on a new contract.

Looks like another of those just happy to play football for money and not bothered about anything else.

He's such a poor athlete.

He's clearly quite technically gifted (and yes he plays with no urgency), but good lord he looks like he's running in treacle. 

[Wing Wizard Windy Miller]

4 minutes ago, Exiled_Rover said:

Add Pears to that list too. 

Let's say Brittain was £3m. Travis will be £1.5m (+ whatever add ons). We've been told Buckley is circa £1m. JRC is down as £800k on Transfermarkt. 

That's £6.3m, with whatever we get for Pears and Leonard on top. 

Factor in the wage savings of Brittain, Travis, Weimann, Batth, Dolan and you're looking at quite a lot of money to play with (by our standards under these owners).

Also factor in the wages for ACD, Sanderson, Woodrow, Beck and Dennis

[Exiled_Rover]

1 hour ago, Torgeir said:

My interpretation of that statement was that there's a set budget and plans for x incomings and x outgoings. Any 'surprise' additional exits on top of that will need to be replaced, so that's like for like (or less), and that's a seperate budget generated by the mentioned sales. 

 

I doubt we will sell Hyam unless we have someone lined up. Same for Tronstad and Hedges but their market value are lower (because of their age) and will cost us less to keep until next summer. 

I wouldn't be surprised to see Hyam move on this week. A CB in the last year of his contract at 29 with, I'm sure, no desire to renew it. Prior to this year we'd just let him run that down and move on, but Gestede / Ismael are being quite ruthless in that department this summer and selling those players. 

I also wouldn't be surprised if they're in the market for another RB now they've had a proper look at Miller and decide to shift him to CB. 

[Exiled_Rover]

1 hour ago, Penwortham Blue said:

This seems to be the consensus about Leonard but I really don’t understand it. Yes, he has been injury prone but always highly thought of and talked up as a real goal scorer, why would they be looking to force such an academy product out, before his potential and future value is really known ? Buckley is no surprise, on good money and just doesn’t look interested when he gets on the pitch and is pale imitation of the player that he was expected to be.

I happen to think he's a tidy player - albeit suited to the 3 behind the #9 because he's not big / fast enough to lead the line. 

That said, they know more than us with regards to his medicals - a recurring back injury at 21 is quite scary. Maybe they just don't think he's worth the risk?

[Neal]

The incomings are actually more than what some are calculating... 

 

We got a million from Chelsea for the young kid. 280k for Dolan. 300k for Telalovic sell on. 750k-1 mill for JRC plus the up to 3.5 million (give or take) fee's for Trav & Brittain, 1 mill for Buckley and a possible fee for Pears...

 

Could take us to comfortably over 10 million in sales. As usual, we are well in the green. They should be forking out for a decent winger the tight fuckers. 

Edited 6 hours ago by Neal

[bluebruce]

1 hour ago, Exiled_Rover said:

Add Pears to that list too. 

Let's say Brittain was £3m. Travis will be £1.5m (+ whatever add ons). We've been told Buckley is circa £1m. JRC is down as £800k on Transfermarkt. 

That's £6.3m, with whatever we get for Pears and Leonard on top. 

Factor in the wage savings of Brittain, Travis, Weimann, Batth, Dolan and you're looking at quite a lot of money to play with (by our standards under these owners).

Those are generally below reports, too.

Brittain reported at about 3.5 mill. Travis, the LT claimed about 3 million (not clear how much is inclusive of add ons, though I'd guess at least 2 million guaranteed). JRC was widely reported as 1 mill, not even seen the figure transfermarkt are using anywhere.

[bluebruce]

2 hours ago, Angry_Pirate said:

So is this newly linked Japanese lad Ryõya decent, or is it just Mor(e) shita that we've been linked to?

And this is why he is gonna have to be good. If he isn't it really opens him up to these jokes.

[lraC]

4 hours ago, Ossydave said:

Led to believe Leonard has been told to not even bother showing for training as he has no future at the club, same for Buckley.

I feel for Leonard, we all really wanted him to progress but his body just says nope far more than it should at his age.

Buckley as I've said many times before, simply doesn't appear to have the desire to succeed here or anywhere, odd player, odd attitude. 

I think there is more to the Leonard situation than meets the eye. Some sort of a fall out, possibly him saying it as it is with the shenanigans.

[bluebruce]

2 hours ago, Exiled_Rover said:

I happen to think he's a tidy player - albeit suited to the 3 behind the #9 because he's not big / fast enough to lead the line. 

I don't think he's suited to those 3 roles either, doesn't have the attributes to come from deeper. He's more of a poacher. He's suited to playing in a front 2, with a player who causes more trouble with pace or physicality, but the game isn't really played like that anymore.

[Danny O.Brien]

27 minutes ago, lraC said:

I think there is more to the Leonard situation than meets the eye. Some sort of a fall out, possibly him saying it as it is with the shenanigans.

I don't think he's anywhere near good enough or important enough to do so. Apart from being a friend of Adam Wharton and them coming through the academy together he didn't/doesn't offer much more than that. Still young and definitely a player in there somewhere. Just can't stay fit enough to show us. Id favour a loan to see if he can get a decent run of games, because he's nowhere near the first team.

[Songman]

2 hours ago, Exiled_Rover said:

Yeah that's a disgusting way to treat your players - especially Academy graduates!

At a normal club* I'd disagree with you. How long do we let buckley hang around and toss it off so to speak. Absolute waste of a wage. League 1 talent with a Sunday league mindset.

Leonard slightly different but without looking at his age he must be 21 or so and is injured way to much for a kid age.

 

* I totally understand we aren't a normal club and the above are probably not the reasons. 😀

 

 

[philipl]

Don't forget to knock off 30% from transfer fees incoming for agent and player cuts...

That gets paid upfront and the fee itself usually is paid in installments with some elements of contingency (add ons) 

[ObiWhan8t7]

3 hours ago, Wing Wizard Windy Miller said:

Also factor in the wages for ACD, Sanderson, Woodrow, Beck and Dennis

Sell on fee for Telalavic, Also Finneran compensation if received yet. Dolans small fee as well to come. 

[Paul Mani]

Funny in here…when totting up the sales, the highest number reported is taken as gospel, and everything is rounded up. Then when we’re talking about purchases, every reported fee we pay is rubbished, rounded down and haggled to a fraction of whatever is reported! 🤣🤣

Venkys have brought every bit of this on themselves, but imagine being £200m+ in the red on a deal and having us lot call you “Tight” 🤬🤣

[bluebruce]

3 hours ago, philipl said:

Don't forget to knock off 30% from transfer fees incoming for agent and player cuts...

That gets paid upfront and the fee itself usually is paid in installments with some elements of contingency (add ons) 

The installments thing works both ways though, we get to buy like that too so it really doesn't matter.

Agents and the player do not tend to get 30% of the incoming transfer fee. It's rare you give a player a sell on clause. What they get is a loyalty bonus if they haven't formally requested a transfer, which will be set rather than a percent of the sale generally, I believe. Agent fees and signing on fees are usually negotiated as part of the player's contract at the new club.

[M_B]

6 hours ago, 47er said:

I thought we were told that the transfer budget had been set and that future sales would not change it?

What was it set at?