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7 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

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Looks like another likable personality that will easily become a fan favorite if he's even half decentΒ 

Some real characters in the first team squad this year, I can't remember us having such a mixed bag of foreigners... Maybe under Allardyce was the last time

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3 hours ago, roversfan99 said:

Yes chaddy, in fact we have a number of massive holes based on last season. We dont know how any replacements willl do, but if we compare the team that finished 7th last season to this, some huge holes have been created.Β 

I don't see as massive holes cos we don't know how well these new signings will play and that will be judge as the season goes on.Β 

3 hours ago, roversfan99 said:

You seem to view things purely by counting players rather than on quality. You also suggest we havent missed players when we have actually lost 3 of 4 games.

Not at all, we don't whether we have signed quality replacements for those who have left or will left. Also you need to factor in that we are playing differently tactical.Β 

3 hours ago, roversfan99 said:

Brittain has left a giant hole both in defence and attack. Travis has left a massive hole both in effectiveness and leadership. Dolan leaves a huge hole. Beck leaves a decent sized hole.

Losing both is a hole but we need to see how good Alebiosu and Tavares/Baradji will be at replacing them. Alebiosu was impressive on Saturday and Tavares we seen something to work with. Looking forward to seeing Baradji play after the international break

Yes I have read Ismael's comments over Travis from the post match Hull game about being let down, so clearly something has happened there, what we don't know but I am surprised Travis move to Derby hasn't been confirm yet

3 hours ago, roversfan99 said:

Batth was outstanding last season. For what its worth, I think McLaughlin is possibly our best signing. I think he will be better than Batth this season, who is aging, but its irrelevant. I dont expect him to be quite as good as Batth was last season in a Rovers shirt, so its probably a small downgrade which is probably the best we can do. Weimann leaves a lesser but still decent sized hole. Again, what these players do this season now they are gone is irrelevant.

Yes Batth was very good last season, but would he this season, I don't know, Derby fans don't seem happy with him.Β 

On Weimann, Squad player who nick a few goals a season

3 hours ago, roversfan99 said:

Some of the above players and their importance has been underplayed because they are no longer Rovers players.

Surely that needs to judge over a season?Β 

3 hours ago, roversfan99 said:

We have also lost a manager compared to last season who IMO was clearly better than Ismael, and is better than most in the league.

Well Eustace isn't showing that. Both will be judge on results.Β 

3 hours ago, roversfan99 said:

Equally, I think one or two we already had eg Cantwell will do better this season.

Cantwell looks much fitter but also given him the captain armband seems to upped his performance.Β 

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Very hardworking and positive guy in dressing room.

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He can play as left winger, AM, left back and wing back. He was our best player in second part of last season, when he was playing as midfielder that goes wide.

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I don't know if he will be good. He had 14 goals and 14 assists last season - which are great number, but it was more due to his amazing form from february till end of season. Before and after (this season) he was just an ok 12th player for the team.

With right coach? Maybe? But you will like him anyway.

Morishita was very good last season, but he looked very bad in Iordanescu's more direct system, so I figure they thought it was the last chance to cash in on him.

Edit: I actually think he needs some rest. He is playing non stop since february with almost no vacation, cause after ending season he went straight to national team.

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From a Legia fan

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1 hour ago, Exiled_Rover said:

In what world!?

Eustace got a bunch of free transfers and loans. I don't think he had any real say in Ohashi and Gueye arriving. Cantwell was meant to be the jewel in the crown, but he wasn't an expensive transfer.Β 

He obviously wanted nothing to do with the crap they brought in in January which is part of the reason why he left.Β 

We signed 9 (I think?) players last summer. Most of them were players that Eustace really wanted, even though they didn't fit in with the new approach of the club.

He very much got his way on that front, and he is employing the exact same tactics at Derby, so it is hard to deny that he was the driving force behind those transfers.

It's also easy to just say 'frees and loans', but those do come with wages. Dennis was 20,0000 a week. Cantwell will be on a big wage for us. Weimann and Batth were likely on decent wages. Beck, Baker, and Cozier-Duberry would have been a combination of decent wages and/or decent loan fees.

Ismael may find himself in a situation where there is more money available for 'transfers' because he is rejecting (or at least accepting the club's strategy) the idea of loans and older freebies.Β 

I'm not defending the club or our owners, and more money should be made available for transfers, but I'm not sure that our signings this summer really represent an increase (even if 5 million is spent on a forward).Β 

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I wanted to see Yuki greeting him not Rudy! πŸ˜›Β 

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10 minutes ago, roversfan99 said:

So youΒ dont agree that Ismael is a downgrade on Eustace?

Same question to you @chaddyroversΒ who has liked it. You wanted Ismael gone after 7 or 8 games and wouldnt commit to saying that your gut feeling is that Ismael is going to work out the other day. And loved Eustace. So a bit confused.

No I don't agree Ismael is a downgraded on Eustace. Ismael has a playoff place on his CV, Eustace doesn't.Β 

I have explained the sack thing more than bloody now, FFS, move on RF99.Β 

No I told I will judge Ismael on results, performances and how we playing not on gut feeling.Β 

Yes I liked Eustace but some things around his move to Derby I didn't like which we only found out after he told the media when appointed as Derby head coach has annoyed me about and tarnish his reputation with me

So you think Eustace is a better head coach than Ismael and what if true based on?Β 

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Posted (edited)
22 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

I don't see as massive holes cos we don't know how well these new signings will play and that will be judge as the season goes on.Β 

Not at all, we don't whether we have signed quality replacements for those who have left or will left. Also you need to factor in that we are playing differently tactical.Β 

Losing both is a hole but we need to see how good Alebiosu and Tavares/Baradji will be at replacing them. Alebiosu was impressive on Saturday and Tavares we seen something to work with. Looking forward to seeing Baradji play after the international break

Yes I have read Ismael's comments over Travis from the post match Hull game about being let down, so clearly something has happened there, what we don't know but I am surprised Travis move to Derby hasn't been confirm yet

Yes Batth was very good last season, but would he this season, I don't know, Derby fans don't seem happy with him.Β 

On Weimann, Squad player who nick a few goals a season

Surely that needs to judge over a season?Β 

Well Eustace isn't showing that. Both will be judge on results.Β 

Cantwell looks much fitter but also given him the captain armband seems to upped his performance.Β 

I never said that they were all holes that we wouldnt be able to fill.

I am saying that we have lost a number of key players that subsequently leave huge holes.

We may well fill them holes adequately, we may have done already. Its not the point I am making.

Eustace showed that when Rovers manager. He also then went to Derby and kept them up which was a very impressive achievement. Im not really sure that him having 2 less points than us (and a cup win to our loss) after 3 games proves otherwise. The hypocrisy of you saying that after 3 games and in the same post saying to judge others over a season sums up the mental gymnastics you use to justify things.

I am guessing that you would prefer Ismael to Eustace now the former is in charge and not the latter.

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3 hours ago, Exiled_Rover said:

Good first touch, takes up dangerous positions and a nice weight of pass on him. He's not a clinical finisher, but if you put him out wide in the 3 behind the #9 I think he'd contribute.Β 

That's where I want Ohashi too - linking up play (albeit not his strong suit) and drifting in at the far post.Β 

His lack of pace would be shown up more out wide. Kargbo would be faster running backwards.

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1 minute ago, chaddyrovers said:

No I don't agree Ismael is a downgraded on Eustace. Ismael has a playoff place on his CV, Eustace doesn't.Β 

I have explained the sack thing more than bloody now, FFS, move on RF99.Β 

No I told I will judge Ismael on results, performances and how we playing not on gut feeling.Β 

Yes I liked Eustace but some things around his move to Derby I didn't like which we only found out after he told the media when appointed as Derby head coach has annoyed me about and tarnish his reputation with me

So you think Eustace is a better head coach than Ismael and what if true based on?Β 

Yes, Eustace is better. His results last season were very impressive, Ismael hasnt replicated them. The job he did at Derby to keep them up was very, very impressive. The job he was doing at Birmingham was impressive.

You are basically admitting that you are allowing feelings around his departure to cloud your judgement.

I have given a firm answer. Eustace 100% I would prefer over Ismael. I am guessing I will not receive the courtesy of a straight answer from you.

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3 hours ago, Exiled_Rover said:

He will now because he's missed the best part of 2 seasons with a recurring back injury.

Prior to that he had a good shot at making it at this level.

Only his mum would agree with you there.

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1 hour ago, sjsbrfc said:

So we can put that one to bed.... πŸ™‚

This seems odd? Guy is playing for a club in the top division of French football. Scored ysday in a 4 nil win, only to decide to move to Poland? A bit random?

Bear also in mind that he is Senegalese, so no language barrier in France etc.

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43 minutes ago, roversfan99 said:

So youΒ dont agree that Ismael is a downgrade on Eustace?

Same question to you @chaddyroversΒ who has liked it. You wanted Ismael gone after 7 or 8 games and wouldnt commit to saying that your gut feeling is that Ismael is going to work out the other day. And loved Eustace. So a bit confused.

Difficult to say yet really, it would seem that Ismael is Gestede's man and they're in it together. I said during pre season that it does feel different, rather than being a continuation of what came before.

It's difficult to compare when it seems a completely different set up.Β 

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16 minutes ago, Tyrone Shoelaces said:

His lack of pace would be shown up more out wide. Kargbo would be faster running backwards.

I'd use him as a pivot out wide - taking up good positions, ball fired into him and others playing off him.Β 

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6 hours ago, blondie said:
Β  5 hours ago, MarkBRFC said:

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Nixon reckons we have a bid in for a midfielder but he doesn't have a name yet.

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6 hours ago, blondie said:

Don't mind signing them young, but before the christening.?????

And to think I was just gonna have a go at Mark's use ofΒ "reckons".......He's some hombre that Alan.

Posted (edited)
52 minutes ago, roversfan99 said:

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Eustace showed that when Rovers manager. He also then went to Derby and kept them up which was a very impressive achievement. Im not really sure that him having 2 less points than us (and a cup win to our loss) after 3 games proves otherwise. The hypocrisy of you saying that after 3 games and in the same post saying to judge others over a season sums up the mental gymnastics you use to justify things.

Derby were 21st when Eustace was appointed and they finished 19th. is that more impressive that what Selles did when he took over Hull who were 24th and he kept them up and finished 21st and was sacked.Β 

Derby fans don't seem impressive from what Rovers fans are retweeted on twitter from them about Eustace, Batth, Sanderson, etc. I haven't seen their games to comment or the goals they have conceded apart from Last Friday game when Batth defending was pathetic from him

49 minutes ago, roversfan99 said:

Yes, Eustace is better. His results last season were very impressive, Ismael hasnt replicated them. The job he did at Derby to keep them up was very, very impressive. The job he was doing at Birmingham was impressive.

You are basically admitting that you are allowing feelings around his departure to cloud your judgement.

I have given a firm answer. Eustace 100% I would prefer over Ismael. I am guessing I will not receive the courtesy of a straight answer from you.

Of course I don't like the way he lied to the Rovers supporters after Wolves game about Derby approach and when he knew about it and that will always play a part in my opinion of him. He admitted he knew on Friday about the approach in his unveiling at Derby. Rovers should have handled it better and not allow him to be in charge of that Wolves game. We should have put him on gardening leave and if I was the CEO/owner of Rovers that exactly what I would have done.Β 

I based it results and I am encouraged by Saturday result and performance plus looking forward to our latest 2 signings playing for us. Lets see who else we sign in the next 7 days.Β 

On which one I prefer, that depends on results. If I had to pick one right now to appoint it will be Ismael based on his straight talking and being honest about the Brittain and Travis situation. But like with our head coaches is all results and winning games.Β 

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7 hours ago, M_B said:

This is it though, how does anyone know if anything has changed if they don't know what it was in the first place .Β 

The transfer window/market is so fluid, it's impossible for things not to change as it goes along, I'dΒ  expect them to.Β 

I don't think anything has changed. They were crap owners 15 years ago and they are crap owners now.

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38 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

No I don't agree Ismael is a downgraded on Eustace. Ismael has a playoff place on his CV, Eustace doesn't.Β 

I have explained the sack thing more than bloody now, FFS, move on RF99.Β 

No I told I will judge Ismael on results, performances and how we playing not on gut feeling.Β 

Yes I liked Eustace but some things around his move to Derby I didn't like which we only found out after he told the media when appointed as Derby head coach has annoyed me about and tarnish his reputation with me

So you think Eustace is a better head coach than Ismael and what if true based on?Β 

So you would have been alright if Eustace was sacked and they hired Ismael.. guaranteed you are only saying this because Ismael is our current manager.

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Posted
2 hours ago, DeeCee said:

Pretty much a a new side this season, are we "really" going for it?

No we're trying to avoid it!

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5 minutes ago, BRFC. said:

So you would have been alright if Eustace was sacked and they hired Ismael.. guaranteed you are only saying this because Ismael is our current manager.

A year from now, whichever manager we have will be one he prefers to Ismael. The pattern is clear to everybody but he still likes to deny it.

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1 hour ago, B16Rover said:

Very hardworking and positive guy in dressing room.

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He can play as left winger, AM, left back and wing back. He was our best player in second part of last season, when he was playing as midfielder that goes wide.

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I don't know if he will be good. He had 14 goals and 14 assists last season - which are great number, but it was more due to his amazing form from february till end of season. Before and after (this season) he was just an ok 12th player for the team.

With right coach? Maybe? But you will like him anyway.

Morishita was very good last season, but he looked very bad in Iordanescu's more direct system, so I figure they thought it was the last chance to cash in on him.

Edit: I actually think he needs some rest. He is playing non stop since february with almost no vacation, cause after ending season he went straight to national team.

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From a Legia fan

Read some of the other Legia fans’ comments on Twitter (i speak Polish) and they seem to be gutted that he’s leaving.Β 

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11 minutes ago, bluebruce said:

A year from now, whichever manager we have will be one he prefers to Ismael. The pattern is clear to everybody but he still likes to deny it.

I think Ismael with be here in a year unless we are near relegation zone which I don't us being.Β 

But the most important thing is winning games.Β 

He seems to be very clear tactical what he wants. Norwich will be another testing game

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