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17 minutes ago, Emerald Isle Rover said:

As can happen with performances sometimes but the were unbeaten had went to free scoring and promotion challenging Coventry and got a great draw away from home before scoring 4 themselves in their first home opener 

could they be awful down the line quite possibly but this early on downplaying a victory is weird 

Contextualising a result isn't downplaying it.

They were horrible and apparently had a virus running through their team that week.

Beating Norwich would be a real start.

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The Liaison officer has embarrassed herself with that stupid message on social media. Like a bitter girlfriend who got dumped. Im sure she was paid well to be really nice to them.

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Posted
29 minutes ago, K-Hod said:

So, let me get this straight.

It's now the fault of Brittain, Dolan, Travis and the former player liaison officer for being bitter, greedy, or whatever else and not those in charge who've been clueless since pretty much when they arrived, have a plan?

This a parallel universe?

Who's said that?

Posted
11 hours ago, Leonard Venkhater said:

So, it's chants of "Snake" and "One greedy bastard", when they come for the anniversary game?

More like “are you Rovers in disguise” aimed at the collective Derby lineup?

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The downgrade argument is a bit ridiculous at this stage. Need at least 10 games to even entertain making that call. Of course the players brought in MIGHT turn out to be, but people are talking with absolute certainty about players they either haven't seen play or have seen a couple of times. Mcloughlin a slight exception but he's done pretty well up to now (better than the bloke he replaced at Derby). I'll admit I'm concerned about DeNeve but can't completely write him off, yet.

Miller/Alebiosu have the biggest boots to fill as Brittain set a very high bar.

Travis, time will tell on that one. Didn't want him to leave but there wasn't a huge queue waiting to sign him. Pretty much universally liked by our fans due to his length of service and work ethic. The thing we will miss most though is his shit housery, not sure any of the new signings bring that?

Dolan divides opinion. Again would have liked him to stay but nobody can argue he was remarkably inconsistent and he doesn't leave a 20 goal void that can't potentially be filled.

Weimann, happy for him to move on. He did a job but was creaking and will spend a fair chunk of this season sidelined, already getting stick from Derby fans.

Batth as it stands you would label McLoughlin a slight upgrade but it's very early days.

Buckley and JRC, sorry but neither will be missed. 

I wouldn't describe the window as exciting, but I'd rather have unknown gambles than guarantees plodders like Woodrow!

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12 minutes ago, K-Hod said:

So, let's pretend this isn't football.

You're being treated badly at work, you are a popular member of staff, made redundant and then (allegedly) replaced by someone close to a member of senior management. 

Not think they've a right to have their say?

Or even, people not being paid what counterparts doing the same job at other firms are, seek parity with their peers, they get said parity only to be villainised.

Football is a job to these guys.

I've said it previously, but I certainly wouldn't be commenting on it publicly, nor would I encourage any friend or colleague to do so. 

I've been in companies with toxic cultures, with CEOs with God complexes, and been there during mass layoffs and when people have been forced out. It's not pleasant, but my advice has always been the same - keep your head down, keep your mouth shut, negotiate your best exit, and make yourself look professional throughout. 

If I were now considering a candidate and saw that they were publicly criticising a former employer? It would be a non-starter for me. I don't care if they were right; I'd want nothing to do with them.

If anything, football isn't enough of a business because you'd be making yourself unhirable in most industries with this type of behaviour. 

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Posted
4 minutes ago, London blue said:

Contextualising a result isn't downplaying it.

They were horrible and apparently had a virus running through their team that week.

Beating Norwich would be a real start.

It’s wasn’t contextualised it was downplayed 

a start for me is your first win - does the 3 points away to hull not count?

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27 minutes ago, K-Hod said:

So, let me get this straight.

It's now the fault of Brittain, Dolan, Travis and the former player liaison officer for being bitter, greedy, or whatever else and not those in charge who've been clueless since pretty much when they arrived, have a plan?

This a parallel universe?

Well, I don't know about bitter but footballers and greed go together like cheese and pickle.

I don't know if we'll ever get the full Trav story BUT if he did refuse to train and play then that was bang out of order. 

He was under contract and being paid sums most of us can only dream of. He might have been pissed a new contract offer either wasn't forthcoming or wasn't very good but it works both ways. Like loads of other footballers he can then choose to run his contact down and leave on a free.

All the power is with the players these days as far as I'm concerned.

Posted (edited)
33 minutes ago, K-Hod said:

So, let's pretend this isn't football.

You're being treated badly at work, you are a popular member of staff, made redundant and then (allegedly) replaced by someone close to a member of senior management. 

Not think they've a right to have their say?

Or even, people not being paid what counterparts doing the same job at other firms are, seek parity with their peers, they get said parity only to be villainised.

Football is a job to these guys.

Then have your say - don't put out cryptic "glad we're both out of there 🤪" posts on socials. 

That stuff happens in every walk of life and in every walk of life people move on for other jobs - as Brittain et al have done.

A select handful have called them snakes, but then a select handful emailed the GM of the Miami Dolphins and wished his daughter died of cancer - so, y'know, there's nutters everywhere.

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9 minutes ago, K-Hod said:

So, let's pretend this isn't football.

You're being treated badly at work, you are a popular member of staff, made redundant and then (allegedly) replaced by someone close to a member of senior management. 

Not think they've a right to have their say?

Or even, people not being paid what counterparts doing the same job at other firms are, seek parity with their peers, they get said parity only to be villainised.

Football is a job to these guys.

She does have a right to have her say but saying I’m glad we’re out doesn’t really say much. Why are you glad your out?

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We were excellent v Hull once we found a foothold in the game and settled down but lets not forget if it wasn't for Toth we'd have comfortably been a goal or two down.

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Posted
19 minutes ago, K-Hod said:

So, let's pretend this isn't football.

You're being treated badly at work, you are a popular member of staff, made redundant and then (allegedly) replaced by someone close to a member of senior management. 

Not think they've a right to have their say?

Or even, people not being paid what counterparts doing the same job at other firms are, seek parity with their peers, they get said parity only to be villainised.

Football is a job to these guys.

Yes but I wouldn't call out the workplace, i'd call out the senior management.

 

Posted
20 minutes ago, K-Hod said:

So, let's pretend this isn't football.

You're being treated badly at work, you are a popular member of staff, made redundant and then (allegedly) replaced by someone close to a member of senior management. 

 

Who replace her? 

Posted
39 minutes ago, Neal said:

You're presuming there. 3 games into the season isn't enough of a sample size to decide if who has been brought in are downgrades. 

 

Don't get me wrong, I'm not naive enough to think cutting expenditure isn't a factor in player turnover either. 

 

Let's be honest though, how many players can you think of over the years have left and improved? Szmodics, Lennihan, Diaz, Armstrong, Rhodes, Gestede there's many others I've probably forgotten... All played their best football for us, then left and fallen off big time. 

To be fair all those you have named bar Lenihan went on to play in the top flight, something they wouldn't have done if they hung around here for any longer. 

Think it's a bit of a myth that nobody ever achieves anything when leaving here, playing in the top flight is more than this sorry effort of a club will ever do.

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Posted
17 minutes ago, Tomphil2 said:

We were excellent v Hull once we found a foothold in the game and settled down but lets not forget if it wasn't for Toth we'd have comfortably been a goal or two down.

That’s why you have a goalkeeper. 

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Posted
32 minutes ago, pick32 said:

The Liaison officer has embarrassed herself with that stupid message on social media. Like a bitter girlfriend who got dumped. Im sure she was paid well to be really nice to them.

Personally think it’s getting stupid, if they know something us fans don’t know then say it, instead of the cryptic bullshit causing more unrest between the fan base. 

Posted (edited)
2 hours ago, roverblue said:

Think quite a few are getting carried away after our win on Saturday against an abysmal Hull team.

This transfer window had been nothing but a downgrade replacing experienced championship pros with foreign gambles on low wages/low fees.

Having said that the signings of Morishita and Baradji have stepped up the quality of incomings all of a sudden so perhaps the message has landed at the club somehow.

If we can bring in one or two experienced or similar stature strikers then things would be looking a lot more promising otherwise I am still expecting a relegation scrap of a season.

 

I suspect you're right, but to be honest it's far too early to be making a call on that. It's undoubtedly a gamble, and not one I'm at all comfortable with. 

 

I would have kept Batth and Weimann, but being hard headed I can see the logic of standing your ground with contracts for players of their age. VI clearly wants an athletic, energetic team, so you shouldn't be held to ransom for players who don't even fit in with that (assuming that was the reason behind them leaving)

 

Different kettle of fish with Brittain, Travis and if rumours are to be believed, Hyam. Gambling on their replacements and getting it wrong could easily be the difference between a comfortable season and one where we end up going down. 

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Some people stating "we don't know the truth about Trav" and similarly people are talking about the player liaison officer stating "she's out of order for saying that". 

Essentially on a hiding to nothing because there's no universal way to approach it that would appease every single fan.

 

My view on these matters are always the same. Whether you believe what VI has said or what Trav has stated at times (e.g. the lack of a contract offer). Both will have their own agenda for their own reasons, the truth is likely somewhere in the middle.

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2 minutes ago, TugaysMarlboro said:

Some people stating "we don't know the truth about Trav" and similarly people are talking about the player liaison officer stating "she's out of order for saying that". 

Essentially on a hiding to nothing because there's no universal way to approach it that would appease every single fan.

 

My view on these matters are always the same. Whether you believe what VI has said or what Trav has stated at times (e.g. the lack of a contract offer). Both will have their own agenda for their own reasons, the truth is likely somewhere in the middle.

I imagine that "middle point" is that a contract was offered, but on the same wage as he was already on

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Posted
31 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

Who replace her? 

It seems to be a lad from Accrington Stanley called Kasom Shah but I am not 100% as yet. 

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Posted (edited)
3 minutes ago, KentExile said:

I imagine that "middle point" is that a contract was offered, but on the same wage as he was already on

Pretty much where my head went when news about Hyams contract offer started bubbling.

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