v Norwich City (h) - 30/8/25

[Waggy76]

1 hour ago, SIMON GARNERS 194 said:

Yeah..first out the door if suitors come knocking in January.

Or tomorrow !

[Waggy76]

1 hour ago, dingles staying down 4ever said:

Gueye isn't the only player who does not understand the offside rule as Ohashi also likes to stray. The attacking ball from midfield is usually released that split second too slow, I could go on

I think, there is a lack of footballing intelligence , throughout the team .

[47er]

58 minutes ago, Goozburger said:

You would blame Ismael for contracts not being sorted earlier? For players wanting to get more money elsewhere?

He's part of it all. He must have known what he was letting himself in for. He must have known that we were letting players go who wouldn't be replaced like for like. But he took the money anyway and no-one could blame him.

And players are always going to follow the money---that's how we won a Premiership.

[RTM08]

29 minutes ago, Waggy76 said:

I think, there is a lack of footballing intelligence , throughout the team .

Which is why most teams take one or two punts on unknowns and use the experience in the squad to guide them. We've driven the experience out and expect a bunch of players who have only experienced mediocrity and relegation in poor leagues to step up.

This is also why you don't put a complete amateur in charge of the club's transfer philosophy.

[LDRover]

Personally I have not felt that the team, manager and supporting staff have been this detached from the supporters since the Kean days. I think we all know this doesn't end well.

[broadsword]

17 hours ago, Goozburger said:

Why does anybody have to get angry? I'm certainly not. The defeats hurt, but I can accept that the club is in a transitional state. It certainly sounds like the Travis situation was dropped on us very quickly, and these players will need time to gel. Surely that's not an unreasonable point of view.

I think getting angry is only ok if it acts as a catalyst for positive action. I think what the past fifteen years has shown is that it doesn't matter what the fans do, these wankers in India won't do anything. So yeah, I don't think in this case getting angry will do any good, you'd end up having a stroke. 

 

I'm past the abbey stage. Well past that. I'm in the resignation stage (= confirmed despair). I'm starting to see the benefit in getting relegated in that we won't get gubbed by Burnley next year. I've long done given up any aspirations the club, other than the forgotten hope that that fat bastard and his shit eating brethren will have a TIA one morning and decide to sell the club. Or perhaps the whole family will get wiped out in a geophysical event. One lives in hope

[aletheia]

2 hours ago, Goozburger said:

but with our budget and losses, surely everyone can see that we can't just splurge every player sale back onto other players. The numbers just won't add up.

The remedy is an active coalition to remove a gatekeeper who sells an impossible dream and find a new one who persuades the owners that some injection of cash is the only way to get promoted and bow out with some dignity of sorts. Never going to happen really is it?

Sadly, that ship has probably sailed now given a wrecking ball has been taken to the squad and the only hope would appear to be a miraculous promotion with this squad.

Not even sure that broadsword's divine intervention would work either, we would probably still be liable for the debt.

Edited 4 hours ago by aletheia

[Mike Graham]

3 minutes ago, aletheia said:

The remedy is an active coalition to remove a gatekeeper who sells an impossible dream and find a new one who persuades the owners that some injection of cash is the only way to get promoted and bow out with some dignity of sorts. Never going to happen really is it?

Sadly, that ship has probably sailed now given a wrecking ball has been taken to the squad and the only hope would appear to be a miraculous promotion with this squad.

Not even sure that broadsword's divine intervention would work either, we would probably still be liable for the debt.

I agree but what exactly are the Coalition doing?  It is very quiet on that front.

I was previously intimately involved in WATR but members have yet to hear what they are doing with the only member communication being immediately after the agm over two months ago to inform members the officers had changed.  

[LDRover]

Sorry to go off topic but I've still got the accept/reject cookie pop up that cannot be closed down on my phone. Probably got a viewing area of 2 inches max, it's almost unusable.

[aletheia]

22 minutes ago, Mike Graham said:

agree but what exactly are the Coalition doing?

Don't know Mike but wish them all the best.

[Mike Graham]

1 minute ago, aletheia said:

Don't know Mike but wish them all the best.

…and so do I.  There are some really good and decent people involved.  I am sure we will get some information soon.

[aletheia]

Regarding rage and anger, impotent though it may be, seems a perfectly legitimate response to me given the circumstances. And ire on a messageboard may not necessarily change things (but I’m sure there are plenty listening.)

Of course, it’s not the fault of the new lads. Cobbled together quickly in a cut price set up. And of course, they will need time to play together etc. 

What I fear is that that such reasonable assertions (time to gel, time to get up to speed, have to settle for an ok season given the large churn, only a minority of fans complaining) are perfect excuses to legitimise at least the next 2 seasons (if not longer) of mid-table or lower mediocrity.

The real tragedy is that we were close a couple of times recently under two managers to getting it right and possible promotion (and with any luck rid of the owners) only to be scuppered. That is where anger should reside: at person or persons who didn’t even try to go the Rao’s to ask for a cash injection (not megabucks) to facilitate possible promotions that were close.

The tragedy is now greater because, that chance having gone, Pasha has cemented his authority and the new cut price regime, in my mind will not deliver promotion and thus prolong the tenure of the Raos. Unless, unless, we are relegated and the picture changes.

 

[aletheia]

And this is for Nic21

But there's always matchday to enjoy after a hard week's work 😉 

And I'll be there..

Edited 3 hours ago by aletheia

[Tomphil2]

3 hours ago, LDRover said:

Personally I have not felt that the team, manager and supporting staff have been this detached from the supporters since the Kean days. I think we all know this doesn't end well.

With the length of contract he has and the people who brought him in running the whole show he could well be similarly un removable and he knows it.

[Herbie6590]

1 hour ago, LDRover said:

Sorry to go off topic but I've still got the accept/reject cookie pop up that cannot be closed down on my phone. Probably got a viewing area of 2 inches max, it's almost unusable.

Somewhere there will be a little X to click to close the ad. It might be a black X on a very dark background though…🤦‍♂️

[Herbie6590]

BRFCS POTM is Ryan Hedges 

[Goozburger]

Hedges has played well in the last couple of games but the cynic in me says that it's no coincidence after reports of us looking for competition on the right hand side emerged. His position is under threat, but unless we do something in the next 24 hours, he might be sitting comfortably in the starting line-up which is never healthy.

Edited 1 hour ago by Goozburger

[roversfan99]

2 of the direct competition for the wide positions are Kargbo who doesnt appear to be good enough, and De Neve who has looked well off it and already doesnt seem to be fancied by Ismael.

We need another winger because quality wise we dont have enough. But theyll see 4 players who can play there and not bother.

[chaddyrovers]

Hedges since moving to the left, his performances have gone up a level. 

[roversfan99]

He played on the left for much of last season and was awful.

Hes had a couple of games to be fair but its not down to that.

[Old Rover]

9 hours ago, Mattyblue said:

Home fan turnout c1,000 down on what we had for the second home game of last season.

13,580 with 1083 Norwich fans , last week was 19,552 with 7033 Birmingham, so down to  around 12500 home fans.