v Ipswich Town (h) - 20/9/25

[RoversTilliDie]

19 minutes ago, roversfan99 said:

You cant base a result on 80 minutes of football.

If it was Mancheter United or Liverpool you could, guaranteed the points would go to them.

 

 

[RoversTilliDie]

1 hour ago, all you need is duff said:

I agree that if the only options are give us the win or a full replay then it has to be a full replay. Giving us the win can’t be justified. I don’t think a middle option exists in this country 

Giving us the win would be justified, we were in control of the game with 10 minutes left. We're you there, or did you watch it from your armchair.

[Tyrone Shoelaces]

13 minutes ago, NeilInBristol said:

It’s a tough one for us considering all the other games went on and no issue it’feels why the fuck is it always us ‘ and with the pitch being water logged which potentially could have been prevented by our own club it feels even more bitter

football gods work in their ways so let’s see what happens- it’s out of our hands now

 

but good news is we were winning 1-0 against a team relegated from prem and expecting to go up and sammie didn’t score

 

lets see how it unfolds

I thought Ipswich were deeply average apart from the left winger who looked lively. He needs a “ quietener “ early in the game next time.

[Tyrone Shoelaces]

1 minute ago, RoversTilliDie said:

Giving us the win would be justified, we were in control of the game with 10 minutes left. We're you there, or did you watch it from your armchair.

You’re never “ in control “ at 1-0, especially in those conditions. We were “ in control “ at 1-0 against Big Club but we still managed to lose the game.

[RoversTilliDie]

2 hours ago, aletheia said:

Anybody care to comment on the pen? Live, at the game, I thought there was going to be a booking for a dive. More than happy to be corrected.

On the game. Think Mori shoud play up top with Ohashi as they clearly think quickly and understand each other. Cantwell wasted up top -they played a very high line and he is not fast enough to exploit the space behind. Other than that, fairly regulation stuff from either side. 2 chances for them first half (one straight at Toth and one a reasonable save from Hirst). 1 for them right across the face of goal. Ref gave us pretty much everything.

No point crying about the abandonment. Correct decision from ref as pitch became unplayable safely. We could certainly argue about what should happen now, but given precendent and the rules, looks like a fully replay. Pasha rubbing hands.

Mori has made a big difference and I think Gud will too.

Looking at the sides we have played this season, the league certainly seems average/

January/february/injuries will tell the real story I guess.

Not been dull so far 🙂 

Gudjohnssen hasn't had is chance yet, on as sub last 20 minutes against Watford, and on as sub in atrocious conditions against Ipswich.

[Ghost7]

3 hours ago, Cherry Blue said:

this was at 1417 today:

 

The club should have spent the money by now on a better solution.

[Exiled_Rover]

3 hours ago, Ossydave said:

Sorry what? A blind man could have taken the decision not to pass it through the biggest puddle on the pitch. If that's the logic being applied then no wonder it got called off 🤷 

The ref has had a mare today. Nothing new there. Made a rod for his own back allowing the game to start.

[47er]

By the way, we speculated how long the Carter/Wharton partnership would last free of injury.

Answer----days not weeks!

 

 

[Exiled_Rover]

2 hours ago, aletheia said:

Anybody care to comment on the pen? Live, at the game, I thought there was going to be a booking for a dive. More than happy to be corrected.

On the game. Think Mori shoud play up top with Ohashi as they clearly think quickly and understand each other. Cantwell wasted up top -they played a very high line and he is not fast enough to exploit the space behind. Other than that, fairly regulation stuff from either side. 2 chances for them first half (one straight at Toth and one a reasonable save from Hirst). 1 for them right across the face of goal. Ref gave us pretty much everything.

No point crying about the abandonment. Correct decision from ref as pitch became unplayable safely. We could certainly argue about what should happen now, but given precendent and the rules, looks like a fully replay. Pasha rubbing hands.

Mori has made a big difference and I think Gud will too.

Looking at the sides we have played this season, the league certainly seems average/

January/february/injuries will tell the real story I guess.

Not been dull so far 🙂 

I'm genuinely flabbergasted that people think Ohashi should start games when you have other options on the bench.

He works hard, but he just gets bullied each and every week - you saw in 10 minutes how much more Gudjohnsen added to the attack.

As for the pen - soft, but they've been given against us a few times this year so I'm not going to shed a tear. 

[Tomphil2]

We had these same conversations on here last season and since then we've had the driest summer for years and sold millions more worth of players.

Nothing was done and we'll be having the same convo's again, it's barely turned autumn never mind mid winter and after the heat and drought nature will be looking to balance things out again as it always does.

Edited 22 hours ago by Tomphil2

[Inferi]

4 minutes ago, RoversTilliDie said:

Giving us the win would be justified, we were in control of the game with 10 minutes left. We're you there, or did you watch it from your armchair.

Not the best solution but definitely more fair than replaying the whole match. The best solution would be to just resume the match from where it was stopped. Pick whichever players you want as long as it's 11 vs 10.

 

[Hasta]

10 minutes ago, Exiled_Rover said:

The ref has had a mare today. Nothing new there. Made a rod for his own back allowing the game to start.

Eh? It was hardly raining pre-kick off and the pitch was perfect at the start. You can’t call a game off on what might happen with the weather.

[joey_big_nose]

3 hours ago, aletheia said:

Anybody care to comment on the pen? Live, at the game, I thought there was going to be a booking for a dive. More than happy to be corrected.

On the game. Think Mori shoud play up top with Ohashi as they clearly think quickly and understand each other. Cantwell wasted up top -they played a very high line and he is not fast enough to exploit the space behind. Other than that, fairly regulation stuff from either side. 2 chances for them first half (one straight at Toth and one a reasonable save from Hirst). 1 for them right across the face of goal. Ref gave us pretty much everything.

No point crying about the abandonment. Correct decision from ref as pitch became unplayable safely. We could certainly argue about what should happen now, but given precendent and the rules, looks like a fully replay. Pasha rubbing hands.

Mori has made a big difference and I think Gud will too.

Looking at the sides we have played this season, the league certainly seems average/

January/february/injuries will tell the real story I guess.

Not been dull so far 🙂 

I agree everything you say.. on cantwell I agree he should look to play deeper. Hes got real quality on the ball, seems much more motivated and stuck in this year, and an engine. But not the pace or strength to really worry a back line. Would like him to move back into midfield so Ohashi, Mori, Hedges and Gudjonsen can play as the four forwards.

That said thought TGH was good, and Tronstad impeccable, so no rush to do it.

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1 hour ago, Tomphil2 said:

Remember the tank thing that used to be in the no mans land corner of Ewood between the Riverside & DE before it was redeveloped ?

I'm sure they could have something similar to pump excess water from the pitch drains.

Or even the away end also in that crux of the stadium both sides. 

[Exiled in Toronto Mk2]

It’s never occurred to me in all these years but the flat stretch of land between the hill up to the railway and the one up Liberty Branch Road looks a lot like an old flood plain, which doesn’t leave much scope for drainage. Once the raging River Darwen rises above that pipe, its head pressure must be many times that of the water coming down the pipe, which perhaps is why the pitch seems to just stop draining. 

[bluebruce]

For me, if I take Blackburn Rovers out of the equation and look at it like this...

Which is fairer?

Telling a team who were 1 nil up against 10 men with 10 minutes plus injury time remaining that they have to do the whole thing again against 11 men and starting at 0-0?

Or telling a team who were 1 nil down with 10 men and 10 minutes plus injury time left that they have to accept the defeat they were thoroughly on course for?

To me it's very obvious that the second one is vastly fairer.

The actual fair outcome would be to have a behind closed doors game to finish the 10 minutes plus injury time with 11 vs 10. Ludicrously, that doesn't seem to be permitted in the rules. And with the way our luck goes I'm sure we will instead be punished by the far less fair outcome of replaying the whole thing.

[roversfan99]

But to say that a result is final based on an incomplete game is conclusive. To replay the game is at least open ended. 

[Exiled_Rover]

1 hour ago, Hasta said:

Eh? It was hardly raining pre-kick off and the pitch was perfect at the start. You can’t call a game off on what might happen with the weather.

Were you in the stadium today?

There was standing water on the pitch in the warm up, it had rained for hours and the forecast was that it was only going to get worse. 

[bluebruce]

9 minutes ago, roversfan99 said:

But to say that a result is final based on an incomplete game is conclusive. To replay the game is at least open ended. 

And utterly ignores that we already played 80 minutes of the game and almost had it in the bag with a man and a goal advantage. As I say, finishing the game is the fairest option. The least fair is to punish the team who had worked hard to be in the lead and reward the team who had very likely fucked the game up, and to replay 90 minutes for the sake of 10.

[philipl]

9 hours ago, Ossydave said:

Just watched an alternate angle of the ref coming out to attempt to roll/bounce the ball, and yes it was grim. But the tit picked literally the worst part of the entire pitch 🤔

No he didn't initially.

In fact I got a bit optimistic when the ball was rolling fine but then he dropped it and there was zero bounce. 

It was after that he went over to where there was standing water on the surface.

 

[rob_of_the_rovers]

With a replay we'll have gone from a 95+% of getting the three points to <50%. Ipswich had practically no chance of winning that game and yet now have a very decent chance of walking away with three points. Hardly seems fair.

[wilsdenrover]

4 hours ago, bluebruce said:

For me, if I take Blackburn Rovers out of the equation and look at it like this...

Which is fairer?

Telling a team who were 1 nil up against 10 men with 10 minutes plus injury time remaining that they have to do the whole thing again against 11 men and starting at 0-0?

Or telling a team who were 1 nil down with 10 men and 10 minutes plus injury time left that they have to accept the defeat they were thoroughly on course for?

To me it's very obvious that the second one is vastly fairer.

The actual fair outcome would be to have a behind closed doors game to finish the 10 minutes plus injury time with 11 vs 10. Ludicrously, that doesn't seem to be permitted in the rules. And with the way our luck goes I'm sure we will instead be punished by the far less fair outcome of replaying the whole thing.

It is permitted but I doubt that will be their ruling. 

[philipl]

9 hours ago, Tugayisgod said:

Really?  I remember this game well 

 

Was there that night.

The penalty against us was as diabolical as any I have seen.

As for the pitch, the drainage now is better than it was in those days but that was our undoing yesterday. After the 75th minute the drains and under soil structure flooded by the rising water table- It was why forking it was pointless and actually counter-productive.

I bet the surface looks immaculate when Swansea and Stoke come to Ewood.

[lraC]

5 hours ago, roversfan99 said:

But to say that a result is final based on an incomplete game is conclusive. To replay the game is at least open ended. 

One thing I would say on this, promotion and relegation was decided on an incomplete season during the Covid season, in two of the EFL leagues. This is 10 minutes of a game, where we had a huge advantage with a man up and a goal up, so logic says, award us the game. 

[alex l]

7 hours ago, RoversTilliDie said:

Giving us the win would be justified, we were in control of the game with 10 minutes left. We're you there, or did you watch it from your armchair.

Flip the teams around - with it being only a one goal lead, you'd want your side to at least be given the remaining 10 (probably 15 with added time) remaining minutes to try for an equaliser. It would feel unjustified to have that taken away from your team, the way we feel it woutbe unjust to have the goal and many advantage taken away