Hasta Posted 6 hours ago Posted 6 hours ago Over these next two games, I’d be looking at bringing Gueye back in for one. Yes he’s pretty poor and isn’t some saviour or answer, but he does offer something slightly different and Gudjohnsen hasn’t appeared better Quote
USABlue Posted 6 hours ago Posted 6 hours ago (edited) 18 hours ago, RevidgeBlue said: Wasn't a mishit, Toth didnt exactly cover himself in glory, the ref's had a good game, their keeper hasnt done anything at all remarkable and it isn't bad luck at all. They've got quality up front and we have none. That's not bad luck. Playing well for periods in games but rarely taking your chances and invariably losing is also the textbook sign of a relegation outfit Yeah was mishit, you are right on Toth not so the ref. He had a great game if you are a Coventry fan. Did not punish simulation, free kick before goal was not. Coventry constantly holding never punished, tiny Ohashi punished for "flooring" blokes that towered above him and outweighed him considerably yet nothing given when he is sent sprawling and so on and so on ad nauseum. His whistle blew every.time Coventry fans hit the required decibels. Another we fouled one of theirs nothing more ref gave foul and was leaving it at that, after the Coventry player worked him he dished a final warning to us. I suppose he did well in that he did not deny us penalty claims, no can't agree with your assessment on the ref. Course I could just be biased. Such a shame we played well, such a shame our manager is thick. What worried me most is we gave up, no heart BigMacs body language clearly showed he would rather be doing something else. Takes off Ohashi, keep crossing high floaty balls in for our midget forward line and then stops when we bring on someone who has a chance of winning headers. We deserved more but I think all relegated teams can sing from that hymn sheet. Wilder will get his Blades firing on Tuesday. Bottom soon enough. Disgraceful way to "run" a fiotball club, poor Jack. Edited 6 hours ago by USABlue Quote
Ricky Posted 6 hours ago Posted 6 hours ago 3 hours ago, chaddyrovers said: Good first half. Didn't sit in and just defend. Created chances. But we didnt take them. That's is the problem again. After they 2 goals in 3 minutes. Game was gone. Don't get taking Ohashi off yesterday. Or not bring Morishita on Sheffield United home game is must win now Take it you’re still not worried about the lack of goals Chaddy, you told us all what a good transfer window we’d had and that Ohashi would easily score 15+ goals. Quote
RoversTilliDie Posted 6 hours ago Posted 6 hours ago 18 hours ago, StHelensRover said: We did play well in the first half. However, if you play well for 45 mins every week over 46 games, that's half a season of good performances, but if you don't win those matches, you're in trouble. We're in trouble. It's a pity the opposition play for 90 minutes, and take the points. 1 Quote
den Posted 5 hours ago Posted 5 hours ago Playing well for 45 mins doesn’t mean a thing. There’s only one aim in football and that is to find a way to- any way - to win games. How you win doesnt matter. If you’re winning regularly you’re doing it right. Honestly, look at that squad of players and tell me “how” they’ll set up to win games. I can’t see it. 2 Quote
chaddyrovers Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago 1 hour ago, Ricky said: Take it you’re still not worried about the lack of goals Chaddy, you told us all what a good transfer window we’d had and that Ohashi would easily score 15+ goals. Its deffo concerned Ricky. I thought we would created more than we have but we need take our chances for sure like Yesterday 51 minutes ago, den said: Playing well for 45 mins doesn’t mean a thing. There’s only one aim in football and that is to find a way to- any way - to win games. How you win doesnt matter. If you’re winning regularly you’re doing it right. Honestly, look at that squad of players and tell me “how” they’ll set up to win games. I can’t see it. Watch the games it clear how we set up to win games. Did you watch yesterday game Den? Quote
LDRover Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago 23 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said: Watch the games it clear how we set up to win games. Of course it is. That's why we win so many. 6 Quote
den Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago 32 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said: Its deffo concerned Ricky. I thought we would created more than we have but we need take our chances for sure like Yesterday Watch the games it clear how we set up to win games. Did you watch yesterday game Den? It’s not hard Chaddy. I didn’t say I didn’t know how we set up. I said I can’t see how this group of players can be set up to win games regularly. You tell me? Quote
Penwortham Blue Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago 6 hours ago, lraC said: I’m finding to harder and harder to watch the team with any enthusiasm, knowing what’s going on with the 4 stooges running the club and these corrupt owners. I did watch on Rovers TV yesterday, but hardly had any passion and very little care, at the end. The whole thing is an empty vessel. Obviously don’t know you personally Carl but often read your posts and it is clear that your love of the club and loathing for the stooges and incompetents running our club runs deep. As such, it is so sad to read your latest post but it really hits a chord with me, I am attending out of duty and the enjoyment and enthusiasm has long gone. If me and you are feeling that way, no wonder the supporter base is almost dead and buried, Ewood is empty and the atmosphere morgue like with any home advantage conceded. Imagine being a player in the blue and white and trying to perform in such an atmosphere, I feel sorry for the players but more so for the remaining fan base as our club feels like it is on life support. If it would rid of us the Venkys, I would take relegation in our 150th year, in a heart beat. 2 Quote
chaddyrovers Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago 24 minutes ago, den said: It’s not hard Chaddy. I didn’t say I didn’t know how we set up. I said I can’t see how this group of players can be set up to win games regularly. You tell me? watch the games its clear how we are set up to win the game Quote
AvRover Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago 8 hours ago, bluebruce said: The fans who find the status quo acceptable absolutely do deserve this. It's the rest of us who don't. Rovers fans have been very tame. This mismanagement would not be tolerated by most peer clubs. 4 Quote
Guy N. Cognito Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago (edited) 11 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said: watch the games its clear how we are set up to win the game Are you deliberately obtuse as part of a bit? If so, I admire your commitment. Edited 3 hours ago by Guy N. Cognito 1 Quote
Blow-in Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago 5 minutes ago, Guy N. Cognito said: Are you deliberately obtuse as part of a bit? If so, I admire your commitment. You must be new here 🙂 Quote
booth Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago 3 hours ago, USABlue said: I wondered that too. Thought he was doing well. Not only that but he was our only outlet. When he went off there was no coherence at all. He's also the only one of our strikers that's scored a goal this season. Gueye and Gudjohnsson could still be playing and they wouldn't have scored. Quote
StHelensRover Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago 36 minutes ago, Penwortham Blue said: Obviously don’t know you personally Carl but often read your posts and it is clear that your love of the club and loathing for the stooges and incompetents running our club runs deep. As such, it is so sad to read your latest post but it really hits a chord with me, I am attending out of duty and the enjoyment and enthusiasm has long gone. If me and you are feeling that way, no wonder the supporter base is almost dead and buried, Ewood is empty and the atmosphere morgue like with any home advantage conceded. Imagine being a player in the blue and white and trying to perform in such an atmosphere, I feel sorry for the players but more so for the remaining fan base as our club feels like it is on life support. If it would rid of us the Venkys, I would take relegation in our 150th year, in a heart beat. I'm the same, had a season ticket every single season since 1998, including covid (I know many others have been going since 60s and 70s, but I'm only 34). I also go to quite a few away games. I now feel like I'm turning up out of some strange sense of loyalty and duty. I always take the view that it's my (our) club and not theirs, and that somehow we can see them off and start enjoying following the club again. Apart from the league one season, it's not really been enjoyable to follow the club for the last 14 years. There have been odd matches which I've really enjoyed, but it's maybe only a couple of times a season, but I just feel flat about the whole thing. If I tried to explain all this to someone who doesn't also follow football, they'd think I was bonkers to carry on bothering. The club isn't necessarily deliberately set up to fail, but it's not set up to succeed or make any progress, it's set up to be as low cost, cheap and cheerful as possible, which inevitably will lead to failure eventually. We aim for mediocre every year, so in years where we fall short of that (this season), we're in trouble. 1 Quote
johnradfordsubbuteo2 Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago 3 hours ago, Hasta said: Over these next two games, I’d be looking at bringing Gueye back in for one. Yes he’s pretty poor and isn’t some saviour or answer, but he does offer something slightly different and Gudjohnsen hasn’t appeared better Deckchairs. Titanic. Quote
SIMON GARNERS 194 Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago 17 minutes ago, StHelensRover said: I'm the same, had a season ticket every single season since 1998, including covid (I know many others have been going since 60s and 70s, but I'm only 34). I also go to quite a few away games. I now feel like I'm turning up out of some strange sense of loyalty and duty. I always take the view that it's my (our) club and not theirs, and that somehow we can see them off and start enjoying following the club again. Apart from the league one season, it's not really been enjoyable to follow the club for the last 14 years. There have been odd matches which I've really enjoyed, but it's maybe only a couple of times a season, but I just feel flat about the whole thing. If I tried to explain all this to someone who doesn't also follow football, they'd think I was bonkers to carry on bothering. The club isn't necessarily deliberately set up to fail, but it's not set up to succeed or make any progress, it's set up to be as low cost, cheap and cheerful as possible, which inevitably will lead to failure eventually. We aim for mediocre every year, so in years where we fall short of that (this season), we're in trouble. Not deliberately set up to fail?....many would disagree with that. We are being downsized on every level. 1 Quote
Tomphil2 Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago 1 hour ago, AvRover said: Rovers fans have been very tame. This mismanagement would not be tolerated by most peer clubs. The pre Walker revolution fanbase wouldn't have tolerated it . Quote
roversfan99 Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago It is clear how we are setting up to win games. But I wont tell you. Just watch the losses and it will become clear. Erm. Quote
StHelensRover Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago (edited) 15 minutes ago, SIMON GARNERS 194 said: Not deliberately set up to fail?....many would disagree with that. We are being downsized on every level. There are a lot of posts on this forum which say the owners and their representatives are deliberately trying to relegate the club and I don't agree with that. I think that's too conspiracy theory or supervillain to make sense in the real world. If they actually wanted to do that, to set us up to fail, it would be really easy and wouldn't have taken so many years. I think it's more likely that they either don't really care about league position, or have no idea how to run a club in a way which prioritises league position, or realistically somewhere in the middle of the two. Everything is done on the cheap and often in ways which seem amateurish, knee-jerk and for want of a better word 'tinpot'. Edited 2 hours ago by StHelensRover Quote
Tomphil2 Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago (edited) 8 minutes ago, StHelensRover said: There are a lot of posts on this forum which say the owners and their representatives are deliberately trying to relegate the club and I don't agree with that. I think that's too conspiracy theory or supervillain to make sense in the real world. If they actually wanted to do that, to set us up to fail, it would be really easy and wouldn't have taken so many years. I think it's more likely that they either don't really care about league position, or have no idea how to run a club in a way which prioritises league position, or realistically somewhere in the middle of the two. Everything is done on the cheap and often in ways which seem amateurish, knee-jerk and for want of a better word 'tinpot'. They will be well aware the model they are now running is playing Russian roulette with the clubs established solid championship status ( something they created out of a good solid Premier league set up ). Question is WHY ? Why would you take the risks if you can afford not to ? Edited 2 hours ago by Tomphil2 Quote
StHelensRover Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago 2 minutes ago, Tomphil2 said: They will be well aware the model they are now running is playing Russian roulette with the clubs established solid championship status ( something they created out of a good solid Premier league set up ). Question is WHY ? Why would you take the risks if you afford not to ? Because none of them have any connection to the town and people of Blackburn, they're not Rovers fans, they're mercenaries employed by the Venkys, who also have no connection. So they don't really care whether we go up or down. They're getting paid an absolute fortune to coast along, it's a gravy train. If it all goes to pot in a couple of years time, they'll walk away from their roles very wealthy, will never need to work again. Why rock the boat by phoning India and asking for more money? On the owners themselves, I can't understand why they still own the club. I can only think we're such a small going concern for them, that they rarely ever think about us. The family are worth something like 2billion pounds, we occasionally (less and less often due to us selling players and not properly reinvesting the money in the squad ) cost them around £20m a year. I cannot imagine what it must be like to have that level of wealth, but I can imagine it's easy to forget about us altogether. 1 Quote
Blow-in Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 10 minutes ago, StHelensRover said: Because none of them have any connection to the town and people of Blackburn, they're not Rovers fans, they're mercenaries employed by the Venkys, who also have no connection. So they don't really care whether we go up or down. They're getting paid an absolute fortune to coast along, it's a gravy train. If it all goes to pot in a couple of years time, they'll walk away from their roles very wealthy, will never need to work again. Why rock the boat by phoning India and asking for more money? On the owners themselves, I can't understand why they still own the club. I can only think we're such a small going concern for them, that they rarely ever think about us. The family are worth something like 2billion pounds, we occasionally (less and less often due to us selling players and not properly reinvesting the money in the squad ) cost them around £20m a year. I cannot imagine what it must be like to have that level of wealth, but I can imagine it's easy to forget about us altogether. Venktresh Hatcheries turnover for the year 2022 was £106 million, £20million is a massive amount in comparison. If they are worth £2billion then officially writing off the £200million they have wasted on this club is definitely not inconsiderable. I have doubted the conspiricy stuff that goes on here, but the longer this goes on the more I have to feel there is something going on. At this stage I am hoping the family dynamic changes (sudden bereavement) and someone else moves into decision making capacity with a view to off loading us post-haste. Quote
Guy N. Cognito Posted 41 minutes ago Posted 41 minutes ago 1 hour ago, Blow-in said: Venktresh Hatcheries turnover for the year 2022 was £106 million, £20million is a massive amount in comparison. If they are worth £2billion then officially writing off the £200million they have wasted on this club is definitely not inconsiderable. I have doubted the conspiricy stuff that goes on here, but the longer this goes on the more I have to feel there is something going on. At this stage I am hoping the family dynamic changes (sudden bereavement) and someone else moves into decision making capacity with a view to off loading us post-haste. My best guess would be that they're paving the way for Balaji's son to takeover. He'll convince baba to loosen the purse-strings and play Football Manager for a season. It will all go tits up because we'll sign a load of dross recommended by their "advisers", the son will get bored, and then we'll have a few seasons of gruelling austerity to make up for it. Quote
Blow-in Posted 26 minutes ago Posted 26 minutes ago 14 minutes ago, Guy N. Cognito said: My best guess would be that they're paving the way for Balaji's son to takeover. He'll convince baba to loosen the purse-strings and play Football Manager for a season. It will all go tits up because we'll sign a load of dross recommended by their "advisers", the son will get bored, and then we'll have a few seasons of gruelling austerity to make up for it. Wow, I didn't think I could feel any worse. I stand corrected. Quote
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