v Ipswich Town (h) - 02/12/25

[Herbie6590]

8 hours ago, G Somerset Rover said:

I believe it’s @Herbie6590 on Twitter that we need to thank for trawling the (not so) recent archives, but it’s 2020 - Adam Armstrong against Rotherham.

Not me - I’m merely RT’ing the excellent BRFC Archive account.

Those who have listened to the latest podcast will now know Scott Mason who is behind the terrific resource 👍

[JHRover]

4 hours ago, chaddyrovers said:

I would have taken either off. 

Not one positive comment about how well we played tonight. 

Tonight was our best home league game performance. 

If the referee had made the correct decisions like Ipswich's player not getting clear red card or penalty decision. These decisions not being made cost us the game. 

It wasn't the ref's fault that we only scored 1 goal (again, that's 18 goals in 18 games - not enough) or that we conceded (again, that's still 0 clean sheets at home).

We could have defended a 1-0 lead far better than the disorganised chaotic mess that we provided (admittedly some may be down to tiredness but not the whole story).

And what happened last night is exactly the reason why the game should have been replayed in full. A goal in the last 30 seconds - even if undeserved over the 90 minutes - can easily happen, especially with our dismal home record.

[roverblue]

4 minutes ago, JHRover said:

It wasn't the ref's fault that we only scored 1 goal (again, that's 18 goals in 18 games - not enough) or that we conceded (again, that's still 0 clean sheets at home).

We could have defended a 1-0 lead far better than the disorganised chaotic mess that we provided (admittedly some may be down to tiredness but not the whole story).

And what happened last night is exactly the reason why the game should have been replayed in full. A goal in the last 30 seconds - even if undeserved over the 90 minutes - can easily happen, especially with our dismal home record.

The last 10 mins should have been replayed, no justification for 90.

[Gamst]

7 hours ago, Exiled_Rover said:

It's a long season and a ridiculous run of fixtures - you saw with Travis and Tronstad in January last year, you simply can't run the same players out there for 90 minutes every week.

Ohashi will break down pretty soon if he's not given a rest. Gudjohnsen has been targeted twice for a rest in the last two games (of the pair of them). We need another CF in January to rotate in if we're sticking with this system.

Yes obviously it would be better if we had squad depth and could make decent subs and rotate the squad but we don’t. I’m not suggesting he never makes another substitution! I just think if there is nobody capable of replacing a player and you are trying to conserve a lead you might have to risk it for 10 mins. Especially as the exact same thing happened 4 days ago! 

[roversfan99]

5 hours ago, chaddyrovers said:

I would have taken either off. 

Not one positive comment about how well we played tonight. 

Tonight was our best home league game performance. 

If the referee had made the correct decisions like Ipswich's player not getting clear red card or penalty decision. These decisions not being made cost us the game. 

I wasnt feeling positive after seeing us throw away another game late on.

And im not prepared to just pass all the blame on to the referee, or referees in general. Was it a red card? Probably, but then the whole game becomes different. Was it a penalty? I dont think so. But we cant control that. We can control constantly chucking away points. Our pathetic home record, and constantly giving up points. The squad is so weak, the subs are embarassing, the manager is a loser.

Still, we must be competing for promotion in the alternative table where we "deserve" to be.

[Gamst]

36 minutes ago, JHRover said:

It wasn't the ref's fault that we only scored 1 goal (again, that's 18 goals in 18 games - not enough) or that we conceded (again, that's still 0 clean sheets at home).

We could have defended a 1-0 lead far better than the disorganised chaotic mess that we provided (admittedly some may be down to tiredness but not the whole story).

And what happened last night is exactly the reason why the game should have been replayed in full. A goal in the last 30 seconds - even if undeserved over the 90 minutes - can easily happen, especially with our dismal home record.

It kind of is the officials fault for giving a goal kick at the end when it was a corner. That would probably been the end of the match and a win had that not happened. 

[KidderStreetNoise]

7 hours ago, aletheia said:

Can anyone tell me which rule talks about red cards and last man?

None at all

[Mattyblue]

Can put a decent first XI on the pitch for this level, wider squad? Dreadful, simple as that and that’s down to this disgraceful regime.

[philipl]

In the 4 minutes of injury time-

The Ipswich long throw is taken from on the pitch with clear grass between touchline and back of the heel.

Ref is stood 30 yards from where we are repeatedly shielding the ball in the corner and gives a goal kick when the ball clearly goes out off a ref sock after Cantwell clipped the ball onto the Ipswich shin.

 

That was par for the entire game.

[jim mk2]

36 minutes ago, roverblue said:

The last 10 mins should have been replayed, no justification for 90.

Daft comment - the match had to be replayed in full. 

[jim mk2]

The question is why Ismael continues to bring on De Neve and leave Ribeiro and Pickering sitting on the bench. Both are better defenders - has he provided an explanation? 

[Tom]

The lads need to put it behind them now, the history books show 2 draws in the last 2 games which isn’t terrible in theory.

It’s followed by the single kindest game you could ask for, no excuses, go and win that one. Swansea and Oxford play each other so a win pulls us away from at least one of them as well 

[KidderStreetNoise]

8 minutes ago, jim mk2 said:

The question is why Ismael continues to bring on De Neve and leave Ribeiro and Pickering sitting on the bench. Both are better defenders - has he provided an explanation? 

Appearance fee

[Bbrovers2288]

6 hours ago, chaddyrovers said:

I would have taken either off. 

Not one positive comment about how well we played tonight. 

Tonight was our best home league game performance. 

If the referee had made the correct decisions like Ipswich's player not getting clear red card or penalty decision. These decisions not being made cost us the game. 

Sorry chaddy, it wasn’t a red, more than enough time for Davies to cover, one of those you would be fuming if it were a red for us. 
he got a lot wrong but that’s wasn’t one of them. Plus , it’s an easy deflection of the real issue, we need to see that one out better. One high punt through and we are at sixes and sevens, keep the ball, defend the box, criminal that they have a spare man over , especially after having it done just 4 days earlier 

[Penwortham Blue]

Thought we really put a shift in last night, the few of us who turned up provided as much vocal support as possible and the players responded with a decent performance. It would have been a thoroughly deserved three points and letting it slip again at the death, just 3 days after the same fate at Wrexham, was heartbreaking. As we all know, our football club has shipped many late goals and scored very few and it is a habit that has persisted over a lot of managers and like the failure to come back from behind, it seems to now be baked into a very unwanted DNA. 
 

The referee was atrocious and got all the big decisions wrong and on that score, we just never seem to get a break. Saturday’s match is now pivotal, if we can’t win that, I really do fear that could be the last straw for the team’s confidence.

Edited 23 minutes ago by Penwortham Blue

[Penwortham Blue]

3 minutes ago, Bbrovers2288 said:

Sorry chaddy, it wasn’t a red, more than enough time for Davies to cover, one of those you would be fuming if it were a red for us. 
he got a lot wrong but that’s wasn’t one of them. Plus , it’s an easy deflection of the real issue, we need to see that one out better. One high punt through and we are at sixes and sevens, keep the ball, defend the box, criminal that they have a spare man over , especially after having it done just 4 days earlier 

As soon as the foul was made and the referee blew, I thought it was a red and I was right in line with it. The Ipswich manager has all but conceded that it was a red and everyone I know who had the benefit of TV, said it was a clear and obvious red card. Morishita was 2/3 yards clear of both defenders, albeit a distance from goal, not really sure how you think there was plenty of time for Davies to cover.

[RoversTilliDie]

1 hour ago, Gamst said:

Yes obviously it would be better if we had squad depth and could make decent subs and rotate the squad but we don’t. I’m not suggesting he never makes another substitution! I just think if there is nobody capable of replacing a player and you are trying to conserve a lead you might have to risk it for 10 mins. Especially as the exact same thing happened 4 days ago! 

Ismael spoilt the party once again, with 3 substitutions. We were well in control 1-0 in front, up to this point.

[joey_big_nose]

What has really struck me is how hard the players seem to be working for Ismael, and that from a team that a month ago most would have said is very very poor (Pears, Pratt, Forshaw etc) hes got us playing well.

Im so up and down on him.

[SIMON GARNERS 194]

Still fuming this morning,we are pissing points away in our precarious position.

Your decisions are costing us Ismael!

We face the Leagues whipping boys Saturday but I have little to no confidence of getting all three points.

Crap.

Edited 24 minutes ago by SIMON GARNERS 194

[KentExile]

4 minutes ago, RoversTilliDie said:

Ismael spoilt the party once again, with 3 substitutions. We were well in control 1-0 in front, up to this point.

2 subs

The first 3 (Tavares, Cantwell & Baradji) had already been bought on before we went ahead.  He then decided that Gueye & De Neve were good options to hold onto the lead

[NeilInBristol]

39 minutes ago, jim mk2 said:

The question is why Ismael continues to bring on De Neve and leave Ribeiro and Pickering sitting on the bench. Both are better defenders - has he provided an explanation? 

Was Pickering in the squad yesterday? Feel like sadly he is being pushed out of the club 

[KentExile]

1 minute ago, NeilInBristol said:

Was Pickering in the squad yesterday? Feel like sadly he is being pushed out of the club 

not on the bench

[RoversTilliDie]

Were getting some decent performances from this team, pity we're not getting a decent performance from the manager. Why f-cking change a team that are well in control, and 1-0 in front.

[NeilInBristol]

6 minutes ago, joey_big_nose said:

What has really struck me is how hard the players seem to be working for Ismael, and that from a team that a month ago most would have said is very very poor (Pears, Pratt, Forshaw etc) hes got us playing well.

Im so up and down on him.

Playing for him ?

or maybe because they are professionals and do their best under terrible circumstances 

he is a rubbish coach with poor tactics and zero ambition 

 

[NeilInBristol]

1 minute ago, RoversTilliDie said:

Were getting some decent performances from this team, pity we're not getting a decent performance from the manager. Why f-cking change a team that are well in control, and 1-0 in front.

We have conceded 6 goals this season after 90mins

two in the last couple of games

no wonder Ipswich pushed for a replay they know how poor our game management is 

this is solely on the “coach” I couldn’t call him a manager he can’t manage stoppage time

Edited 16 minutes ago by NeilInBristol
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