v Watford (h) - 24/1/26

[philipl]

Cantwell had a poor game. Baradji looked good when he came on. First half, it was amazing it took Watford so long to score but from then on we shaded it without showing much quality.

The Watford back line was there for the beating but we didn't have what it would have taken.

[roverandout]

1 minute ago, joey_big_nose said:

He can be quite good on form. I wasn't a fan last season but this year August to October he was quite good, and surprised me by being motivated by the captaincy and clearly his intensity upping a bit. But then got injured and off the boil again (although to be fair to him he still works very hard). Not worth the money imo. If he was unavailable and we played Baradji and Mori as the attacking mids I wouldn't expect any real change in the quality of our attack. Maybe be a bit better on recent form. 

I'm not doubting he has some ability but he just doesn't produce.  He's very lethargic.  He has zero end product.  When he does try to play key passes they usually end up with the opposition 

[rovers11]

17 minutes ago, sharpysharps86 said:

Didn't it also take Sheffield Wednesday fans a good 18 months - 2 years of protests and boycotting? Its going to be a long journey.

Venky's took over 15+ years ago so 18 months-2 years from Sheff W is remarkable. We're 15 years on this long journey...

[alcd]

1 hour ago, sharpysharps86 said:

Ismael never learns

Keep doing the same thing - using DeNeve - and expect a different result. Ismael is both stubborn and thick. Powell is not the answer but still much better than the useless Belgian. 

[lraC]

45 minutes ago, Mercer said:

You mean confirmed?

I do. 

[onlyoneDuff]

Cantwell a couterfeit Robbie Savage...Baradj and Alebiosu will keep us up if fit and we get Jorgensen and Gudjhonsen up top...and why did we sign Cashin when O'Riordan might be better?

[DE.]

36 minutes ago, ben_the_beast said:

They went into administration rather than the owner voluntarily deciding to sell up. Venkys always seem to make sure the wages are paid. I'm not sure what will ever make them leave

Yep and this is the thing that I think would convince the hardcore to participate. If they felt the club's existence was at risk, then they'd kick up a fuss. Until then Venky's are paying the bills and putting a team out there, and that's good enough. 

Edited 3 hours ago by DE.

[Penwortham Blue]

Not sure how anyone can even try to suggest that the boycott hasn’t been successful ! 7,600 for a Saturday 3PM fixture, including 1,000 Watford and 500 free to schools. Suggests probably 50% of our core support stayed away and made their point, enough is enough.

[aletheia]

1 hour ago, Exiled_Rover said:

I'd love to play modern football - as a FB I'd have had a field day with these one-footed wingers that refuse to take players on around the outside.

You'd be sent off within 5 minutes for an old fashioned reducer and for moaning at the ref.

[aletheia]

1 hour ago, OsloRover said:

Ohashi was a clinical finisher last season. This season he’ll have to shoulder a large portion of blame for our league position, costing us a lot of points with his misses.

Just nonsense. Because the numpties in charge decimated the team it means that the dross left on the pitch (that constantly changes) can do very little to provide so that Yuki is worked to death with no assistance beside him and forced to chase crap into the channels from MacLaughlin (that's if it doesn't go straight into touch).

Not saying he is a world beater by any means (and never was) but given the quality of the squad is considerably weaker this season so he is struggling too - if he wasn't so a abused as a workhorse and could do his work in the box he would get more -though as I say would still never be top drawer. 

Take him out and replace with Gud would be interesting.

[Parsonblue]

Thought it was a much improved performance today.  After conceding first, I wasn't sure how we would react, but we came back well to grab an equaliser.  After that it was a very even game with both sides having the chance to snatch a winner. 

Forshaw makes a difference in midfield and Baradji came on and looked the part and it was good to see Alebiosu back.  Once we get Gudjohnsen back, it will be interesting to see how he combines with Jorgensen. 

Indeed, once we get the injured players back it should make for an interesting end of the season.  It will be tight, but I think we have enough to stay up.  Certainly far more optimistic tonight than after the two away games last week.  

[Polky]

1 win in 14 games, he’s got to go!

[roversfan99]

Feel like the narrative post game is that we were much better today.

I thought we were crap again, so were they. The quality of the game in general was pretty embarassing at times. A group of sub par players looking particularly disjointed and again failing to win.

The change of formation doesnt make sense. Recruitment clearly wasnt designed for a back 3, but we have seemingly focused on getting in most likely 2 strikers, no wingers, only to revert back, especially when our good wing back is getting fit again. Just screams of making it up as they go along. 

Ohashi is not good enough, thats pretty simple. Jorgensen offered nothing and looks slow, and Miroshita is better central and looks rusty, had no impact. Cantwell was crap. O'Riordan doesnt look up to it and I was amazed to see he got man of the match.

Thought Cashin was much better which obviously the benchmark was low. But he was man of the match for me. Tronstad was also decent. Alebiosu had an impact when he came on.

[aletheia]

1 hour ago, WacoRover said:

A Pat on the back to Ismael, who managed decently, with better players.

Disagree totally. The tactics first half were woeful and it should have been out of sight for them withing 30 mins. They showed us how to play -the ball up to their centre forward and his good touch to bring in others was way beyond us. 

Still, one corner, one goal from Miller and it was game on. Footy eh? (Let's not get into the miss from the best move of the game where their lad shot into row zz+ in the Blackburn end 😉 )

[DE.]

Ohashi would be a great utility player. As a main striker he's not equipped to do the job with the skills he has. No shame in that, not his fault he's being put in a situation designed to highlight his weaknesses rather than play to his strengths. 

[roversfan99]

1 minute ago, Parsonblue said:

Thought it was a much improved performance today.  After conceding first, I wasn't sure how we would react, but we came back well to grab an equaliser.  After that it was a very even game with both sides having the chance to snatch a winner. 

Forshaw makes a difference in midfield and Baradji came on and looked the part and it was good to see Alebiosu back.  Once we get Gudjohnsen back, it will be interesting to see how he combines with Jorgensen. 

Indeed, once we get the injured players back it should make for an interesting end of the season.  It will be tight, but I think we have enough to stay up.  Certainly far more optimistic tonight than after the two away games last week.  

It was improved on the embarassing 2 losses but thats a low bar.

The standard of the performance today and the game as a whole was depressingly low.

[aletheia]

1 hour ago, OsloRover said:

Cashin had a good game,

Agreed. Saved us a few times within the first 30 mins or so.

[BlackburnEnd75]

16 minutes ago, Penwortham Blue said:

Not sure how anyone can even try to suggest that the boycott hasn’t been successful ! 7,600 for a Saturday 3PM fixture, including 1,000 Watford and 500 free to schools. Suggests probably 50% of our core support stayed away and made their point, enough is enough.

I think a massive park of the problem is that a lot of fans (and the regime) don't seem to think that the attendance today is that bad or that somewhere between 2,000-4,000 fans have stayed away to protest the ownership. You put that on top of what we've already lost and it's frightening for a club of this size in this area of the country. 

But they don't seem to care.

[Ossydave]

Ohashi is getting progressively worse, not sure if it’s confidence, if he’s burnt out or what. He hasn’t always been this poor at finishing but he’s becoming a wasteful liability. 
 

Crying out for Gudjohnsen back and Yuki will be a useful sub no doubt, until then we have a problem and no obvious solution, unless of course we actually sign someone….

[Exiled_Rover]

1 hour ago, bluebruce said:

One bad cross. The others have been lovely. One in particular he did brilliantly to lob it over the first man.

One shocking cross when he had all the time in the world to pick out his man.

[RoversTilliDie]

1 hour ago, philipl said:

Cantwell had a poor game. Baradji looked good when he came on. First half, it was amazing it took Watford so long to score but from then on we shaded it without showing much quality.

The Watford back line was there for the beating but we didn't have what it would have taken.

How come Jugerssen didnt play is he injured, wed have won it with a decent striker.

[Bohinen1983]

Think we look dogshit.  Really poor side. Ohashi is dreadful,  just runs about and falls over..

[KentExile]

14 minutes ago, RoversTilliDie said:

How come Jugerssen didnt play is he injured, wed have won it with a decent striker.

Jorgensen?

 

He started, taken off 10 mins before the end

 

[M_B]

2 minutes ago, KentExile said:

Jorgensen?

 

He started, taken off 10 mins before the end

 

I'm assuming you've managed to miss the sarcasm 

[M_B]

50 minutes ago, Penwortham Blue said:

Not sure how anyone can even try to suggest that the boycott hasn’t been successful ! 7,600 for a Saturday 3PM fixture, including 1,000 Watford and 500 free to schools. Suggests probably 50% of our core support stayed away and made their point, enough is enough.

Didn't seem much, if any different to the last couple of home games.