Sounds like a sensible plan. Perhaps we should have kept him in case we had injuries or suspensions 🤦‍♂️

Of course, because my 'doom laden' predictions have never come to fruition and have been entirely misplaced to date....

Venkys have never ever once supported this club financially. They've paid in the absolute bare minimum required to keep the lights on and nothing more. Big fucking deal.

If we go down its 100 % Venkys fault just as it is their fault the club is in this sorry state. If the club was run like a normal club Eustace would never have entered the door to begin with.

Whilst I think he had a better record than suggests, I don't think that second statement is close to true. The current debt is about 200 mill. I don't think we were getting anything like 100 mill from selling Dack, Brereton, Rothwell and maybe getting a bit more for Armstrong (even that one is predicated on if he was fully contracted at the time, rather than the actual timing being any different). More like 35-40, assuming we didn't replace them.

Exactly. I'm finding the misinterpretation a bit baffling personally, but hey. I never said it was proactive, ambitious, etc, and I went to pains to point out that I wasn't backing Venkys, that they're incompetent, and that the need to put money in was necessitated by their incompetence. Yet still people seize on things and go off on tangents. Fact is, Venkys have spent 200 million (ish, I don't have the exact figure). They haven't put any money in since November. Their ineptness plus putting money in has put us in the shit situation we have been in. Their ineptness plus zero money being put in will only be worse (unless it results in them fucking off of course, but that's a great intangible for now).

I think a few of you are misinterpreting some posts as pro venkys, I don’t think anyone in here is pro venkys , but there is a marked difference in them opening up their wallets and stripping assets , if we survive on Saturday I would like to think they realise the squad needs bolstered considerably or they will be league 1 bound. If no money is spent on the squad then no money will be spent by the fans. Time for them to show their intentions.

He joined a team top of the league in January and looking for reinforcements and cover to their team. I doubt the intention was for him to play every week, they wanted cover, especially whilst Morsy went off to AFCON. Again, a side at the top of the league wanted proven capable depth to see them through the fixtures and get over the line, and happy to call upon him when needed. I wish we'd have signed players of that ilk in January 2022 and January 2023, but instead we did nothing and paid the price.

or a clue.

Or have a plan

We don’t do sensible.

Main thing with TM is not only did he have a mid table budget he was also never ever forced to sell a player which is unheard of here under this ownership. JDT here 5 mins and loses several good players. TM wasn't a flop he just did what it said on the tin but he wasn't good either.

Mowbray undermined himself.

… a win takes them to the 100 point marker too which champions always love to have as a further bauble.

I think it's more a case of lack of quality and being error ridden.

Exactly. ’The squad’s shit, but I’ll have a go’. Just don’t listen to them if you don’t want to hear banalities.

I’m not talking about right now, as if you noticed I didn’t mention Southgate - but thanks for the correction, Eddie.

Eustace said the squad was fantastic when he came in. No excuses there for John Eustace.

So what's happened just this season alone is not enough then? What would it take for you to be critical of the club in any way?

I’d certainly forgotten a lot of them.

I think he was signed in case anything happened to Morsy. Injuries, suspension etc.

It speaks for itself. Plenty of eminently forgettable players in that list

They keep injecting money in, but the question has to be asked how we're still hitting this £20m loss per season still, considering we strip closer to the bone with every passing year. Nixon reckons they're still determined to get to the Premier League, but literally nothing they do matches with that thought process - unless a significant change happens, we'll be in League Two before we get to the PL.

Indeed. Although I was delighted by the result at Leeds I couldn't help but feel embarrassed when the Rovers fans were singing "we are staying up"

eustace is another appleton,dull,charisma free,dubious tactics and one of the "positive brigade",we could lose 7-0 every week and there would still be "positives" about it,i very much doubt he`ll achieve anything here,especially with the idiots running the club,i feel sorry for him in the respect but just can`t take to the fellow

The difference between the two though is that JDT's final 15 games (where he'd given up and wanted out) is at least comparable to JE's first 15. Yes JDT has Wharton, but JE has had many players returning from injury. Both should be criticised, absolutely. But I've seen nothing to suggest anything other than a struggle next season under JE.

Mowbray signed way more bad players than good. Bowyer ( or his dad ) was the manager who signed good players.

I think if you make comments like "we really are the pits" that should be on the basis of something that has actually happened rather than your doom laden predictions.

Have you been following since Venkys took over? Support us AGAIN?

True, but Wharton won't be at Palace long. Will depend where he ends up.

The Supremes - When The Love Light Starts Shining Through His Eyes

That's coming whether we stay up or go down They'll try to 'box off' this season by blaming the boogeyman - in this case either JDT, Broughton or the Indian authorities - and then the aim will be to extract season ticket money from people by claiming lessons have been learned, changes have been made, problems resolved. All will be false, there will be no serious change and cannot be without ownership change, but they need something to try and stave off a catastrophic drop in sales, and they won't be cutting prices to do it.

And got knocked out of the cups to Morecambe at home and Wigan. It was great to have a manager in JDT who wanted to do well (and did) in the cups.

After Szmodics blazed his chance over the bar on Saturday against Coventry, our XG went to 0.46 Does that more often than not you would expect Sammy NOT to score that chance? XG just a bit nonsensical to me.

I really wanted to like Leo but initially I thought he was a flapper but a decent shot stopper but then there was a game the ball went in like middle of the goal as if it just went right through him. if he can’t catch a ball and is dodgy on crosses, unless he really works and improves on that he won’t make it in this league. id go back to bromby in the summer and say you can have him now for 250k-500k and cut our losses , we don’t have time for a dodgy keeper. pears is a number 2 and that’s where he should remain. a decent experienced champ keeper brought in to take over as our number 1

Just cant take to the bloke.

Did he have a coupon on?

I know you make your own luck to a degree but I really feel Ipswich have had a ridiculous amount of it this season and just rode it all the way

Sorry jdt had run his race, he was done weeks before he finally went. I can’t forgive putting pears in when we had a fit kaminski, think a few are rewriting history with how tactically astute jdt was

So what's the 200 million they've injected if it's not support? Don't get me wrong, they're a fucking cancer but it's not in doubt that they've supported us financially, even if much of that need is from their own colossal fuckups. The fuckups aren't going away, so I'd like the money to come back.

So its the fans fault again, thanks for the input steve Cuppliance This made me think of the stick that the N01 gave him about his wife in the reverse fixture. He ain't gonna let up is he.