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Good read and a load of disgusting yet unsurprising documents to cover up the corruption and incompetence https://sportingintelligence832.substack.com/p/revealed-the-blackburn-files-from

On what basis? He may end up better than Scholes, who knows? But better now than a player rated as the best of his era by many top European players?

He isn’t, he really isn’t

Adam is much better than Scholes

Exactly a Carrick.

This..its pure torture for the fans.

Perhaps a Carrick then?

I keep saying it but nothing will make Venkys fund us to promotion, whatever any judge rules. Mismanaged decline is the path we are on.

That can’t be right as there’s 44 listed on the Delhi website alone.

If you don't have a specific figure In mind, then surely you can't really have an opinion on the final figure, whatever it is.

Wharton’s far more defensively aware than Scholes. Although worth saying before this is posted somewhere on X, clearly not as good a player.

Ive not got a specific number in mind. Its more of a case of, dont force him out, in January, out of desperation, and instead give him at least half a season more to accelerate in value. Hes obviously going to generate more, you wont get true value under those conditions.

Thinking about England squads of old, are we thinking Anderson is the Gerrard to Wharton’s Scholes?

I'm not fixated on anything, it seems a good example to me. I suppose the question is, how much do you think we should have got for him?

FA cup honestly didn’t occur to me. Disaster. Looks like his wait to go to a game will have to go on.

That a smaller fee usually means a higher sell on, and vice versa.

It wasn't less than £10 million. There's not a chance anyone AT THE TIME expected us to get anywhere near that amount.

What point are you trying to make? I’ve no idea at this point, but I’ve not read all the thread?

I know this is a bit late and most people will have already voted but no-one seems to have mentioned that it was under Johnny Carey's management that our youth team won the youth cup for the one and only time. They were known as "Carey's Chicks" and that team contained England, Pickering and Newton.

He is not head and shoulders ahead of Declan Rice as an all rounder. He is definitely not as good as him. Those stats are so limited and as you say come down to interpretation, but they merely show that he ranks top at those specific things under the system of wherever those stats come from. If you are judging the best midfielder based solely on who ranks highest on a select few metrics, and nothing else, then you are being foolish. The problem nowadays is people are too reliant on these stats, which are only a small part of what someone should be looking at. Who a player plays for, the type of player, the style of the team, the dominance or otherwise of a team, it all comes into play. You touch on it but Wharton and Anderson are different types of players. I personally think the style of Wharton would compliment Rice more. Anderson is also box to box but that hasnt been a problem against weak teams who havent really looked to exploit any gaps between and behind him and Rice.

And they've only got 4 High Court judges in the entire country according to the Economist magazine recently.

I’ll add in one more thing - the courts only sit for five hours a day.

Thats the one.

And there will no doubt be 80 cases listed next time we're up. What a crazy legal system they have.

The stats may belie reality on the Wharton vs Anderson debate but statistics just spit out facts. Your interpretation of those is what makes it subjective Objectively, he’s the best rated midfielder in the league, if you are judging a midfielder on whichever statistics he tops. Which to be fair, is pretty much all of them - forward passes, dribbles, touches in the box etc. A lot of those stats are pointing towards a possession based team. Wharton plays in a team that counters. And he tops three important categories - through balls, chances created and interceptions. As the stats go, Anderson is head and shoulders above every English midfielder in terms of an all rounder type player. That said, despite him having more passes and touches than Wharton he creates less chances. That part has been missed in this debate. So has the positioning of the players - Anderson plays wider, whereas Adam Wharton is a very archetypal defensive midfielder who plays as though either side of the 18 yard box is a no go zone. You are taught this at an early age as a DM - you only need to cross into those wide areas when you’re covering your full back. It shows in Adam’s play imo