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To be straight though he did say after promotion he'd talked them out of going for a double promotion and chucking money in because he advised steady investment to avoid boom and bust. That can be judged one of two ways, sensible or lacking ambition and willingness to stick ones own neck on the block. Probably a combination of both in truth.

I'll go ... here's 11 players i remember being at least okay. Sandomierski Baptiste. Berg. Van hecke Givet Elliott. J.jones Reed. Bentley Nonda. Graham Subs: Steele, tosin, kane, beck, morton, gomez, khadra, armstrong, antonsson, suker, Gallagher, Others not included: marcolin, Baggio, hakan unsal, babbel, boothroyd, trybull, cunningham, Harwood bellis, branthwaite, Douglas, spearing, villanueva, king, kazim Richards, biram diouf. Di Santo, sinama one goal. ,

Why did he want to stick to 3 at the back? We were losing, under no circumstances and no matter how much you try to defend him (even suggesting repeating the tactic tomorrow when Miller seemed unlikely to play) did it make any sense to bring on a midfielder who isnt good enough in his own position into a position where he has never played before.

Steve Archibald

The Polish lad about 15 years ago Sanda?

The idea that Venkys were full of enthusiasm and Mowbray stopped them in their tracks really is a bit of a stretch based on the admittance that Mowbray didnt kick up a fuss for more money once budgets had been agreed. I doubt that most managers have actively asked Venkys for more money. Mowbray is just the one who said it publically. They had that one season where they invested £10m on what was a squad that had been decimated in the lead up to relegation. The problem is, the fact that they are obligated to cover losses each year (bar the freak Wharton sale) is for some reason confused by some as them pumping money in as if its to better the team. Why anyone would try and spin it to make them seem like the good guys is anyones guess.

I've not attended, Action Group stance is clear, transparent minutes and democratic representation. Following the last FF meeting we cant accept this as the only two way communication. We've made our points known prior to the meeting of the above and will wait with baited breath if this appears in the minutes. Right now the AGs focus is on protests, comms via media and if the motion passed,gatecrashing the Derby game.

Didn't Enckelman come in on loan at first? Don't remember him playing though mind.

I am sick of seeing happy clappers just happily watch our club be torn to shreds and clap along, it infuriates me. When venkys go they can take them with them. VENKYS OUT! they’ve ripped apart what was a stable premier league club, lies and awful decisions made, it’s all their fault.

I don't blame Ismael too much. You cannot make a silk purse out of a sow's ear. The chicken chokers are now slaughtering pigs.

Badfinger - Without You

Rangers had two more rebuttals. Muscat due to time frame and Rohl.

This a 100% must win. Even a draw won't be good enough but I'll be honest I just don't see it. Even if for arguments sake we say we play well, we a)don't have the quality up front to get clear and b)show time and again that we completely lose all composure at key moments game after game. Rovers 0-1 Sheff Utd

I can't stand them, to be honest. They peddle platitudes and clichés like they're going out of fashion. What game was it after Rovers banned the LT? I watched that and while it's unsurprising, they paid no heed to it whatsoever.

Mowbray was backed more than any other rover manager under venkys, he licked their ass (well statistically kean was probably more backed, but that was just a ridiculous attempt from Venkys at the time).

It’s hard to accept we’re in the relegation zone. Perhaps to stay. If we cannot beat the blades tomorrow, or whenever we play Shef Wed, I do not see a fixture remaining that we have a good chance to win.

Either that or Baradji will be sold after BRFC got him fit in January !

If I'm honest I think the writing is already on the wall but, if we harbour any desire to make a fist of this we need 4 points this week. I can see 1, maybe.

Yeah saw that, but no sign in 1892.

Bobby Mimms was on loan a couple of times..

England v Wales at Alexandra Meadows too!

I've just spent 15 minutes struggling and didnt get anything beyond Walton

No cheating!

Andy Marriott

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