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1 hour ago, JoeH said:

Huge problem in my opinion with the England national youth set up. There’s this self-inflicting policy of “keeping the group together” whereby talents (especially in the EFL) who are progressing through don’t get chances to shine in the U19’s or the U21’s. We end up with a 21’s team full of Arsenal players.

The likes of Jude Bellingham have to wait for big money moves before they’re even considered, and people like Tyrhys Dolan can’t get a sniff for the Under 19’s, who boasted a team with about three first team apps between them. He’d have been the best player on the pitch.

England have won both the Under 20 and Under 17 World Cups in the last three years ; I think other countries would love a "huge problem" like that.

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2 minutes ago, Mashed Potatoes said:

England have won both the Under 20 and Under 17 World Cups in the last three years ; I think other countries would love a "huge problem" like that.

We seem to have a problem in pushing on from those successes. Young players thinking they've already got it made ? We definitely don't seem to mature mentally like some foreign teams do.

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2 minutes ago, Tyrone Shoelaces said:

We seem to have a problem in pushing on from those successes. Young players thinking they've already got it made ? We definitely don't seem to mature mentally like some foreign teams do.

Given how recent those successes were it's still a bit early to conclude but we've already seen the likes of Sancho and Calvert-Lewin progress.

On the point above about Dolan he's played just a small number of league games. To have been selected already would have been a reflection of his reputation at Under 18 level which given that Preston let him go and no Premier League clubs picked him up was probably not that high. Let's give it a few more months before we say it's all wrong that he's not getting England recognition.

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21 minutes ago, Mashed Potatoes said:

England have won both the Under 20 and Under 17 World Cups in the last three years ; I think other countries would love a "huge problem" like that.

Just wait and see, things stalling big time at youth levels because of poor handling in my opinion.

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10 minutes ago, Mashed Potatoes said:

On the point above about Dolan he's played just a small number of league games

Take a look at the amount of experience in the U19's squad, and some of the names, and tell me Dolan wouldn't have been the best player in the team with a serious face.

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2 minutes ago, JoeH said:

Just wait and see, things stalling big time at youth levels because of poor handling in my opinion.

The fact that we had five young players missing from last nights game because they can't or won't follow simple guidelines speaks volumes for their levels of maturity."  Do I want to play for England or go do I want to go to a birthday party ? Err , phone for a taxi the champagne's on me. " 

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13 minutes ago, Tyrone Shoelaces said:

The fact that we had five young players missing from last nights game because they can't or won't follow simple guidelines speaks volumes for their levels of maturity."  Do I want to play for England or go do I want to go to a birthday party ? Err , phone for a taxi the champagne's on me. " 

Very true, and this comes down to getting youth development right. We're developing people, not just footballers, and these idiots should be weeded out at 16's-18's level.

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44 minutes ago, JoeH said:

Take a look at the amount of experience in the U19's squad, and some of the names, and tell me Dolan wouldn't have been the best player in the team with a serious face.

I've pointed out that Dolan has only made a real mark in the last few weeks so those picking the team will not have had time to form a view. Let's just wait and see.

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39 minutes ago, Tyrone Shoelaces said:

The fact that we had five young players missing from last nights game because they can't or won't follow simple guidelines speaks volumes for their levels of maturity."  Do I want to play for England or go do I want to go to a birthday party ? Err , phone for a taxi the champagne's on me. " 

Young men do make mistakes - nobody should be written off in their early 20's.

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9 minutes ago, Mashed Potatoes said:

Young men do make mistakes - nobody should be written off in their early 20's.

It should be stamped out between the ages of 16 to 20. Youth development is about developing young men with the class and respect that we saw from Dominic Calvert-Lewin, and those who can't act responsibly and represent their county properly should be weeded out for me.

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As part of one of my little roles working for EA Sports, I'm on a fact finding mission, so I thought I'd head to this section of the board to see if anyone has any answers for me.

I'm looking for some details on Adam Wharton, Joseph Ferguson, Brandon Lonsdale, Georgie Gent, Aidan Dowling, Ben Pleavin, Charlie Weston and Brandon Lonsdale and a few more of the younger lot. If anyone knows any of the aforementioned players well, or is a family friend/relation, I'm seeking info for things like Height, Weight, Playing Position, DoB, Nationality for the FIFA internal database.

Thanks to anyone who can help in advance.

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5 hours ago, Mashed Potatoes said:

Young men do make mistakes - nobody should be written off in their early 20's.

If you're looking for reasons why the senior teams always seem to fail when the chips are down I would suggest that our collective mentality isn't where it should be. If you can't get your priorities right as a young sportsman you're never going reach your true potential. It's not just the football teams either.

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16 minutes ago, JoeH said:

As part of one of my little roles working for EA Sports, I'm on a fact finding mission, so I thought I'd head to this section of the board to see if anyone has any answers for me.

I'm looking for some details on Adam Wharton, Joseph Ferguson, Brandon Lonsdale, Georgie Gent, Aidan Dowling, Ben Pleavin, Charlie Weston and Brandon Lonsdale and a few more of the younger lot. If anyone knows any of the aforementioned players well, or is a family friend/relation, I'm seeking info for things like Height, Weight, Playing Position, DoB, Nationality for the FIFA internal database.

Thanks to anyone who can help in advance.

You might have some luck pinging this account 

 

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1 minute ago, briansol said:

You might have some luck pinging this account 

 

Unfortunately the information I have online is about as good as anyone will get with the research tools I have available, and the graphics the RoversChat team have been posting on this account don't have the info that I'm after (see Joe Ferguson's picture above). 

I'm looking for people who know the players or who watch the Under 18's or have an insider at the club

Thanks for the suggestion!

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22 minutes ago, Tyrone Shoelaces said:

If you're looking for reasons why the senior teams always seem to fail when the chips are down I would suggest that our collective mentality isn't where it should be. If you can't get your priorities right as a young sportsman you're never going reach your true potential. It's not just the football teams either.

Winning the Cricket World Cup, second in the medals table at the last Olympics, multiple wins in the Tour de France, domination of the heavyweight division etc etc,  - I think you are selling UK sportsmen and women a bit short ; I can't think of another time when we have been so successful.

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I'm really talking about team sports. We still didn't win the Ashes back, that's the one that matters, tip and run cricket suits our mentality. Look at the Rugby Union World Cup final, the Springboks walked all over us. Same in Rugby League, we've not beat the Aussies in the Ashes for 40 years !

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Just now, Tyrone Shoelaces said:

I'm really talking about team sports. We still didn't win the Ashes back, that's the one that matters, tip and run cricket suits our mentality. Look at the Rugby Union World Cup final, the Springboks walked all over us. Same in Rugby League, we've not beat the Aussies in the Ashes for 40 years !

Obviously you are entitled to your opinion but for me in the last three years winning the Cricket World Cup, getting to the final of the Rugby World Cup and the semi-finals of the football World Cup is pretty damn good - we're not going to win everything.

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1 hour ago, Tyrone Shoelaces said:

I'm really talking about team sports. We still didn't win the Ashes back, that's the one that matters, tip and run cricket suits our mentality. Look at the Rugby Union World Cup final, the Springboks walked all over us. Same in Rugby League, we've not beat the Aussies in the Ashes for 40 years !

Despite an individual winning It, the Tour de France is absolutely a team sport. It can’t be won by an individual.

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2 hours ago, JoeH said:

As part of one of my little roles working for EA Sports, I'm on a fact finding mission, so I thought I'd head to this section of the board to see if anyone has any answers for me.

I'm looking for some details on Adam Wharton, Joseph Ferguson, Brandon Lonsdale, Georgie Gent, Aidan Dowling, Ben Pleavin, Charlie Weston and Brandon Lonsdale and a few more of the younger lot. If anyone knows any of the aforementioned players well, or is a family friend/relation, I'm seeking info for things like Height, Weight, Playing Position, DoB, Nationality for the FIFA internal database.

Thanks to anyone who can help in advance.

I know Brandon's dad. I'll ping him on FB.

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2 hours ago, JoeH said:

As part of one of my little roles working for EA Sports, I'm on a fact finding mission, so I thought I'd head to this section of the board to see if anyone has any answers for me.

I'm looking for some details on Adam Wharton, Joseph Ferguson, Brandon Lonsdale, Georgie Gent, Aidan Dowling, Ben Pleavin, Charlie Weston and Brandon Lonsdale and a few more of the younger lot. If anyone knows any of the aforementioned players well, or is a family friend/relation, I'm seeking info for things like Height, Weight, Playing Position, DoB, Nationality for the FIFA internal database.

Thanks to anyone who can help in advance.

Brandon Lonsdale is 5 ft 10, approx 11 stone, plays as an attacker (his dad described it as 7, 9, 10, 11 but mostly 9), dob 03/09/2002, nationality English. He also has Dutch nationality too though, dunno if FIFA does dual nationality like FM.

Hopefully his brother Nathan, who is in the younger age group, keeps coming through at Rovers too. Their dad is a huge Rovers fan, used to travel from Holland for pretty much every game when he was working out there.

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1 hour ago, bluebruce said:

Brandon Lonsdale is 5 ft 10, approx 11 stone, plays as an attacker (his dad described it as 7, 9, 10, 11 but mostly 9), dob 03/09/2002, nationality English. He also has Dutch nationality too though, dunno if FIFA does dual nationality like FM.

Hopefully his brother Nathan, who is in the younger age group, keeps coming through at Rovers too. Their dad is a huge Rovers fan, used to travel from Holland for pretty much every game when he was working out there.

Thank you so much, just what I was after. Once again the forum connections come through. Hopefully one day Brandon makes the first team and he’s in the game!

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5 hours ago, arbitro said:

He used to post on here occasionally too. 

Yep, he preferred the footymad site though, that's where I got to know him. We met for drinks a few times before and after games. I remember Brandon as a little shit, probably about 6 years old or so haha

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11 minutes ago, bluebruce said:

Yep, he preferred the footymad site though, that's where I got to know him. We met for drinks a few times before and after games. I remember Brandon as a little shit, probably about 6 years old or so haha

I travelled to a few away games with them and still occasionally see him around Darwen. I did see him prior to one of the Youth Cup matches at Ewood last season and we had a good natter. His youngest son. Nathan was also signed by Rovers so hopefully we could have Rovers supporting brothers in the first team before too long ??.

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