[Archived] Official: Paul Lambert Appointed Blackburn Rovers Manager

[RevidgeBlue]

Isn't this exactly what lambert's gripe is? That he wants to build a team but isn't being allowed to because our owners won't give him the tools, the backing or the authority to do the long term planning so he's being forced into short termism

We don't know what discussions have taken place between Lambert and the owners gumboots. I still don't understand why he took the job in the first place therefore you'd presume he was given some sort of general assurances when he signed up.

My gripe is that regardless of any of that in the meantime we should still be showing far more on the pitch than we have been doing. Lambert isn't exactly complaining from a position of strength.

[gumboots]

No but if he's been banging his head against a brick wall from the day he walked into the place, if they started back tracking from the start, which, knowing them as we do is entirely possible, it's no wonder he can't get more from the players. I agree his job is to get players doing more on the pitch and so does he. I've worked in a place where the set up was dysfunctional, where nobody took responsibility for anything, where management was non existent and, when they woke up to realise they had to make a decision, it was always kneejerk and panic, and, believe me, doing your own real job in those circumstances is like wading through treacle. You end up feeling like you have an impossible task on your hands and can't get the best out of those you are supposed to motivate because you don't have the energy you need because you're too busy fighting other battles.

I want more from our players and manager but I can understand why we don't always get it. I was appalled by Saturdays performance or lack of it, but it's too easy just to blame Lambert and even the players for it.

[Stuart]

Fans are entitled to expect better than some of the poor fare and results served up in recent months for which Lambert is entirely responsible. He's brought in these players so presumably he likes them and thinks they can improve the team - but where is the evidence? I don't want Lambert to leave but he's done nothing as far as I can see to justify the lofty reputation he's given by many people. Yes, we'd probably be in an even worse position under Bowyer but presuming he stays and isn't given much money to spend in the summer Lambert will to show his mettle as a manager to prevent the team getting relegated next season. On current form, I'd say he isn't up to it.

Very shortsighted. We have had years of this, and the first guy who has given us any hope of improvement is under pressure after a few months working with our worst squad in 20 years. Bowyer had three years and three transfer windows, and was defended over and over as needing more time. Lambert has had one transfer window - after being at the club a month.

We really have learned nothing.

We are watching a Bowyer-Lambert side. We cannot judge fairly until we are watching a Lambert side.

[Iceman]

We don't know what discussions have taken place between Lambert and the owners gumboots. I still don't understand why he took the job in the first place therefore you'd presume he was given some sort of general assurances when he signed up.

My gripe is that regardless of any of that in the meantime we should still be showing far more on the pitch than we have been doing. Lambert isn't exactly complaining from a position of strength.

How do you know, that it wasnt perhaps Derek Shaw who gave Lambert those assurances? With Shaw gone, Lambert are now starting to ask questions of the owners l, and rightly so. The guy wants to do well here, so back him and give him the support he needs in one final throw of the dice

[Mike E]

No but if he's been banging his head against a brick wall from the day he walked into the place, if they started back tracking from the start, which, knowing them as we do is entirely possible, it's no wonder he can't get more from the players. I agree his job is to get players doing more on the pitch and so does he. I've worked in a place where the set up was dysfunctional, where nobody took responsibility for anything, where management was non existent and, when they woke up to realise they had to make a decision, it was always kneejerk and panic, and, believe me, doing your own real job in those circumstances is like wading through treacle. You end up feeling like you have an impossible task on your hands and can't get the best out of those you are supposed to motivate because you don't have the energy you need because you're too busy fighting other battles.

I want more from our players and manager but I can understand why we don't always get it. I was appalled by Saturdays performance or lack of it, but it's too easy just to blame Lambert and even the players for it.

Sounds like the Department for Education

[K-Hod]

It's like a lot of people think Paul Lambert should have been the second coming based on their expectations of him. I'm honestly speechless that people expected him to come in and deliver top 6 this season, I really am. I think someone mentioned the word 'entitled' above, and whilst it was 'entitled to think' and I'm probably taking it out of context, I think it's the perfect adjective. Unreal.

[JBiz]

"youre going to have to fight with them but to have that fight you need to be given a chance. And to be given a chance youve got to try and spend a bit of money.

PL quote from LT. Not helping himself repeating this. I agree with him, but surely it's the indecision that's causing more problems? If he seriously thinks the only chance is with "a bit of money", which is hard to interpret I admit, what happens if it doesn't come?

If he knows he's not getting any money, surely he would be getting on with looking at bargains, contracts and youth ready for next season.

Regardless of the ownership situation which the club finds itself, the fans are still going to deserve some level of effort - promotion on a shoe string has been done before - Blackpool, Burnley etc I've no problem with him moaning at the ownership situation but it grates to hear that he "needs" money. Surely the priority is a consistent direction and contact from owners, a new structure?

[ABBEY]

look at blackpool now

[47er]

"youre going to have to fight with them but to have that fight you need to be given a chance. And to be given a chance youve got to try and spend a bit of money.

PL quote from LT. Not helping himself repeating this. I agree with him, but surely it's the indecision that's causing more problems? If he seriously thinks the only chance is with "a bit of money", which is hard to interpret I admit, what happens if it doesn't come?

If he knows he's not getting any money, surely he would be getting on with looking at bargains, contracts and youth ready for next season.

Regardless of the ownership situation which the club finds itself, the fans are still going to deserve some level of effort - promotion on a shoe string has been done before - Blackpool, Burnley etc I've no problem with him moaning at the ownership situation but it grates to hear that he "needs" money. Surely the priority is a consistent direction and contact from owners, a new structure?

So, if he gets "no money" you will still expect progress? Bizarre.

[chaddyrovers]

http://m.lancashiretelegraph.co.uk/sport/14435730.Paul_Lambert__Rovers_and_Forest_will_struggle_to_kick_on_unless_proper_structures_are_put_in_place/

The key part from the link

It is understood Lambert agreed to take the Rovers job in November after being assured by Venkys they would go for it next season.

But he insists he is in the dark over whether that remains the case and it is believed he has yet to have been given a budget for the 2016-17 campaign.

Lambert, whose former club Aston Villa were relegated from the Premier League at the weekend, said: The three clubs coming down will have a lot of wealth and they will try their utmost to get back up right away.

Aston Villa have already gone and then its take your pick from Newcastle, Sunderland and Norwich. It will be three big clubs. And the ones that dont go up will spend big as well.

Youre going to have to fight with them but to have that fight you need to be given a chance. And to be given a chance youve got to try and spend a bit of money.

[Athlete]

http://m.lancashiretelegraph.co.uk/sport/14435730.Paul_Lambert__Rovers_and_Forest_will_struggle_to_kick_on_unless_proper_structures_are_put_in_place/

The key part from the link

It is understood Lambert agreed to take the Rovers job in November after being assured by Venkys they would go for it next season.

But he insists he is in the dark over whether that remains the case and it is believed he has yet to have been given a budget for the 2016-17 campaign.

Lambert, whose former club Aston Villa were relegated from the Premier League at the weekend, said: The three clubs coming down will have a lot of wealth and they will try their utmost to get back up right away.

Aston Villa have already gone and then its take your pick from Newcastle, Sunderland and Norwich. It will be three big clubs. And the ones that dont go up will spend big as well.

Youre going to have to fight with them but to have that fight you need to be given a chance. And to be given a chance youve got to try and spend a bit of money.

Norwich geared up if they go down for immediate return probably more so than the north east 2 villa may struggle

PL again makes the point of the structure and until thats right

SSN reporting Delia on his way at Celtic end of season with Moyes favourite bet you're bottom dollar Lambert would be interested

Whichever way the cat jumps I cannot see Lambert and his management team being here much longer

Lambert is correct in everything he's saying in the press but should he have done better with what he's got and with what he brought in in January imo he also needs to look at that

[BlueMonday]

The problem with Venkys enigmatic ownership, is they are not sharing the vision(if there is one)

Even if they are intending to fund a push for promotion next season, because of their abject silence, they are hindering planning and preparation for such a push.

Every day that passes, PL looses ground on rival managers to sound out targets and lay the ground for transfer business.

Warburton was interviewed on Monday and said he's been planning for 3 months and sorting things out for next season, even before he knew which division they'd be in. And Rangers has been a Club as dysfunctional as ours in the recent past.

Phoning PL on June 1st and saying this is your transfer budget, just isn't good enough. Lambert should have been planning and wheeling and dealing months ago but hasn't been able to because he has no idea what the budget is.

And this lays bare the shambolic nature of Venkys ownership. Money is one thing, but they simply don't know what they are doing, and Lambert has realised.

It's been said many times now, but NO manager would thrive in these working conditions, not Guardiola, Mourhino or KENNY DALGLIESH. It's mind boggling that PL is being blamed for the decline, when the obvious reason is staring everyone in the face!

[Leonard Venkhater]

Sounds like the Department for Education

Michael Gove for CEO?

[Rover_Shaun]

Did I read somoeone say we were a team with a chance of making the play-offs pre-christmas?

Seriously? Really? Surely nobodies that naive?

I need a lie down in a dark room.....

[Athlete]

The problem with Venkys enigmatic ownership, is they are not sharing the vision(if there is one)

Even if they are intending to fund a push for promotion next season, because of their abject silence, they are hindering planning and preparation for such a push.

Every day that passes, PL looses ground on rival managers to sound out targets and lay the ground for transfer business.

Warburton was interviewed on Monday and said he's been planning for 3 months and sorting things out for next season, even before he knew which division they'd be in. And Rangers has been a Club as dysfunctional as ours in the recent past.

Phoning PL on June 1st and saying this is your transfer budget, just isn't good enough. Lambert should have been planning and wheeling and dealing months ago but hasn't been able to because he has no idea what the budget is.

And this lays bare the shambolic nature of Venkys ownership. Money is one thing, but they simply don't know what they are doing, and Lambert has realised.

It's been said many times now, but NO manager would thrive in these working conditions, not Guardiola, Mourhino or KENNY DALGLIESH. It's mind boggling that PL is being blamed for the decline, when the obvious reason is staring everyone in the face!

Agreed no manager can work under a no structure or one with no authority

We won't progress until this changes no matter who the manager is... OK we may get lucky and get in the play offs but that is highly doubtful until they charge how the club is run nothing changes

But it's looking like they're not interested

The club is dying a slow painful death

[DE.]

I like PL's personality and feel he should be backed but he has under-performed and that should go without unquestioning.

Can't understated the clamor to give him a blank cheque not as if he has earnt it is it?

What's GB's ratio compared to PL, anyone?

Based on this season only it's essentially the same now. PL was ahead by 4-6 points a few games ago but I'd guess it's pretty much even now.

[Tom]

Whilst I don't disagree with his points he did say when he came in that he won't talk about lack of money being an issue and it was too easy to blame things on the embargo etc.

We stood and applauded that comment

[JBiz]

So, if he gets "no money" you will still expect progress? Bizarre.

See toms post above.

I said it's happened before on the cheap so if PL doesn't get funds, if he is a great manager it should be no problem.

[G Somerset Rover]

Based on this season only it's essentially the same now. PL was ahead by 4-6 points a few games ago but I'd guess it's pretty much even now.

I know he's had 5 wins in 22 following that interview with Bayes (although that must discount PL's first 4 games where we won 3?). I think GB had 3 in 17 this season. As you say, I would imagine they have similar ratios given GB was a draw specialist - but in summary, both have mustered terrible records this season.

[Gav]

Whilst I don't disagree with his points he did say when he came in that he won't talk about lack of money being an issue and it was too easy to blame things on the embargo etc.

We stood and applauded that comment

Lambert can't even sign a Sunday league player at the moment, or pre-contracts anyway. Marshall looks like he's going to leave due to the uncertainty, it's a far worse situation than he had at Villa and that made him ill.

So whilst Lambert did say that Tom, I'm sure he never In his wildest dreams thought he'd not even have anyone to write a contract or ring Mill Hill St Peters for a meeting about their star striker.

Absolute circus.

[ABBEY]

circuses are entertainment and fun gav...venkys are not.

[DE.]

I know he's had 5 wins in 22 following that interview with Bayes (although that must discount PL's first 4 games where we won 3?). I think GB had 3 in 17 this season. As you say, I would imagine they have similar ratios given GB was a draw specialist - but in summary, both have mustered terrible records this season.

We're probably still a couple of points ahead based on how we were going under GB, but obviously there is both an assumption we wouldn't have gotten any worse or any better under GB. All we can say for certain is the season as a whole has been appalling regardless of manager, and that it was probably destined to be that way as soon as the summer transfer window closed.

Big changes needed in the summer. If Venky's can't or aren't willing to fund that (even if only to the tune of £3m-£5m) then we are nailed on for relegation next season whether Lambert is here or not, imo.

[ABBEY]

would relegation next season stir the remaining fans into action or not ?

[Ivorsemion]

Whilst I don't disagree with his points he did say when he came in that he won't talk about lack of money being an issue and it was too easy to blame things on the embargo etc.

We stood and applauded that comment

I may be wrong - but weren't those comments made before he'd had chance to really see the lack of quality in the squad that was largely due to the fact we had been relying on free transfers and cheap loanees for quite a while?

[Tom]

I may be wrong - but weren't those comments made before he'd had chance to really see the lack of quality in the squad that was largely due to the fact we had been relying on free transfers and cheap loanees for quite a while?

It was when he first joined so yes but my initial point is he is doing what he said is wrong to do, this was his quote:

The more people talk about the lack of money, theres a negative thing on it because people can use that as an excuse, Lambert added. The main thing for ourselves is to start winning games. Lack of money wont necessarily make you lose games. But if you use it as an excuse its always going to happen.