broadsword Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 Btw, if the club was valued at £23m when we were in the prem, Jesus, What's the value now? £1? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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G Somerset Rover Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 15 minutes ago, TheRevAshton said: Waggott provides update on Venky's and Blackburn finances The club must be wrestled from them because it sounds as though they sure as hell won't sell up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
broadsword Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 Yeah, but why, Jesus Mary and Joseph, WHHHHHHHYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY Christ on a Friday jumping a shark on a steampunk jetski shouting aii aiii yippee, why do they refuse to sell? 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronzed A Donis Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 I read the WATR minutes and unfortunately the only thing I could keep thinking was , he's lying to you and he doesn't have a clue. More lip service. The same CEO who was telling everyone no money worries come Jan, owners never refuse a cheque, we've bought a new bus. He's a charlatan and has no authority anyway. 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moptop1 Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 They have things to hide, that’s why they won’t sell. The can needs to be opened… 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G Somerset Rover Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 Just now, Moptop1 said: They have things to hide, that’s why they won’t sell. The can needs to be opened… Has to be this. We’re past the pride excuse. They’re clearly worried that Neville’s house is the tip of the iceberg in the UK. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moptop1 Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 Once that can opens, things will be interesting. Just need someone to open it. But who? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomphil Posted March 7 Author Share Posted March 7 58 minutes ago, broadsword said: Not sure about that. From what I remember under the trust, our o/d with Barclays was running at a steady twenty mill They'd paid it down though selling Bentley i think it was around 10 mill when the club was sold plus there was another 3 million loan from the Walker Trust. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomphil Posted March 7 Author Share Posted March 7 1 hour ago, broadsword said: Btw, if the club was valued at £23m when we were in the prem, Jesus, What's the value now? £1? Consider not long after Jones was sold for 16 mill before add ons, Kalinic went for 6 mill and Samba eventually for about 12 mill to pay off the Barclays overdraft. I'm convinced they got their buying price back pretty quickly. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JHRover Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 Hopeful of a profit. Wonder if Swag gets a juicy bonus if that happens. If we need Court permission to release funds in March where has the Adam Wharton money gone? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
broadsword Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 1 hour ago, tomphil said: They'd paid it down though selling Bentley i think it was around 10 mill when the club was sold plus there was another 3 million loan from the Walker Trust. Yeah, you may well be right there. Certainly we seem to agree that the club was valued at £23m and not £43m as it says in article 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoverDom Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 The club will end the year in a profit yet some fans will still be "WhA taBOuT fFp, u DoNt uNdErStAnD" 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lraC Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 1 hour ago, tomphil said: Consider not long after Jones was sold for 16 mill before add ons, Kalinic went for 6 mill and Samba eventually for about 12 mill to pay off the Barclays overdraft. I'm convinced they got their buying price back pretty quickly. There is very little doubt about that. As we know, we had sneaky agents, who needed paying for things like transfers and finding a buyer and maybe there was some commission to pay for Western Unions laundry bill. A nice little scheme all round for those in the know. A little bit like knowing the result of a game before kick off, or at least how many shots on target a particular team could muster. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roverblue Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 It would be worrying if they weren’t in profit after flogging a generational talent, hot prospect defender and 1st team goalkeeper (not to mention several million sell on fee for our old goalkeeper) for anything up to a combined £25-30m. Meanwhile they have reinvested about 50p and a bag of pork scratchings back into the playing squad. The question Waggot is how much are you going to reinvest that back into the squad? Or are you only bothered about making a profit? I imagine the answer is f all. The consequences will be seen on the terraces next season. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roverthechimp Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 The club is in profit but the owners will inject any monies needed to fund the club In short zero reinvestment and Stevie gets a pat on the head for getting us relegated 🤬 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lraC Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 Just for a bit of fun, I had a look at what is currently available as a bet for things other than the result of a game. One area that is particularly interesting is the shots on target market for a team and pasted immediately below (following 2 paragraphs) is taken off a website There are different ways in which bettors can bet on ‘shots on target’. Markets are offered on individual players’ shots on target, such as Harry Kane to have 3+ shots on target during a game, or more, or less; the higher the shots, the higher the odds. Markets are also offered on the number of shots on target for either team or the total shots on target in the match. For example, how many shots would Arsenal have in their clash with Chelsea, or how many shots Chelsea would have, or how many both sides would have combined. Bettors can even delve deeper by staking money on how many shots will happen in each half. I suspect that the premier league is of more interest than most when it comes to this particular area of gambling, given how it attracts a world wide audience. Imagine if an illegal market was available and the "rules" were that this market had to be a top division such as the premier league. A syndicate of punters made a real killing one season and the loser was looking to make their money back. If a team involved in some of those games, could somehow avoid staying out of that league, that may be a way of avoiding that from happening. Given the link below suggest that the Asian markets are pretty hefty, it would not be beyond all realms to think that the owners of a football club, could very easily been drawn into such activity. Daily Asia Gaming eBrief: The Illegal Betting Market: A Growing Concern in China, Indonesia, Malaysia, Philippines, and Thailand | AGB (agbrief.com) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philipl Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 Apparently the Indian illegal betting market is the biggest with over a billion being wagered in a single day more than 12 years ago. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SIMON GARNERS 194 Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 3 hours ago, G Somerset Rover said: The club must be wrestled from them because it sounds as though they sure as hell won't sell up. ' Venkys have No intention of selling the Club ' THE Dagger to the Heart of every Rovers fan...the Cherry on the Turd Cake. Fookin Doomed. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lraC Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 59 minutes ago, philipl said: Apparently the Indian illegal betting market is the biggest with over a billion being wagered in a single day more than 12 years ago. Staggering figures that and must surely make most sense of what is happening. Is it a pure coincidence, that the amount you have mentioned was 12 years ago? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ABBEY Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 He won't have a clue how to do interviews... how he's blagged a job by copy/paste buggers belief Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leonard Venkhater Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 4 hours ago, G Somerset Rover said: The club must be wrestled from them because it sounds as though they sure as hell won't sell up. Apparently, "there are wild anti-Venky groups"... Christ on a bike!!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martonrover Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 Just now, Leonard Venkhater said: Apparently, "there are wild anti-Venky groups"... Christ on a bike!!!!!! I like the idea of “wild anti-Venky groups” and would like to join. Do they organise trips to Pune to hunt them down? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ABBEY Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 1 hour ago, lraC said: Just for a bit of fun, I had a look at what is currently available as a bet for things other than the result of a game. One area that is particularly interesting is the shots on target market for a team and pasted immediately below (following 2 paragraphs) is taken off a website There are different ways in which bettors can bet on ‘shots on target’. Markets are offered on individual players’ shots on target, such as Harry Kane to have 3+ shots on target during a game, or more, or less; the higher the shots, the higher the odds. Markets are also offered on the number of shots on target for either team or the total shots on target in the match. For example, how many shots would Arsenal have in their clash with Chelsea, or how many shots Chelsea would have, or how many both sides would have combined. Bettors can even delve deeper by staking money on how many shots will happen in each half. I suspect that the premier league is of more interest than most when it comes to this particular area of gambling, given how it attracts a world wide audience. Imagine if an illegal market was available and the "rules" were that this market had to be a top division such as the premier league. A syndicate of punters made a real killing one season and the loser was looking to make their money back. If a team involved in some of those games, could somehow avoid staying out of that league, that may be a way of avoiding that from happening. Given the link below suggest that the Asian markets are pretty hefty, it would not be beyond all realms to think that the owners of a football club, could very easily been drawn into such activity. Daily Asia Gaming eBrief: The Illegal Betting Market: A Growing Concern in China, Indonesia, Malaysia, Philippines, and Thailand | AGB (agbrief.com) Never forget the 33 rumours. Big Sam 33/1 to be fired Appleton next manager 33/1 Both had massive rumours beforehand of pune million mysterious bets. (Allegedly) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jim mk2 Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 4 hours ago, TheRevAshton said: Waggott provides update on Venky's and Blackburn finances Most relevant sentence from that article "The CEO, who has also come under fire from supporters, also revealed the club have no longstanding or overdue debts. In fact, the club are hopeful of ending the year in profit, based on current forecasts" So, in other words, the prospect of relegation and fans sick with worry don't matter - Waggott will be trousering his bonus on top of his £300,000 plus salary. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leonard Venkhater Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 1 hour ago, martonrover said: I like the idea of “wild anti-Venky groups” and would like to join. Do they organise trips to Pune to hunt them down? Yeah, so do I. However, when I read it in the Athletic article, it came across as dismissing a section of the fanbase, as a mere lunatic fringe. Bertha Mason's Blue and White Army! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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