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20 minutes ago, SIMON GARNERS 194 said:

And still we await a responce to the Coalition letter...do they think it will all go away if we win Saturday?

Be interesting to see what the crowd reaction is on Saturday.

Will the call to arms be generally well received and lead to "Venky's out" type chants or will it provoke a sort of superfan "Rovers 'til I die" type backlash? 

Either would arguably be preferably to the morgue like atmosphere prevalent recently.

Posted
4 minutes ago, davulsukur said:

They won't respond, not a chance. 

They'll be a rallying cry from the manager, especially if he get's asked about it by BBC Lancashire. And they'll probably get a player to do the same in a pre-match interview.

Other than that, as you were for the last 15 years, radio silence.

Id wager there'll be some sort of sly dig about it somewhere along the way.

"Those that would want to see us fail" or "Enemy within" type thing.

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Posted
5 minutes ago, davulsukur said:

They won't respond, not a chance. 

They have form for dropping ChatGPT statements online on a Friday afternoon/evening before a game.

If they do respond I imagine thats when it will be, telling everyone we're entering a crucial period and get behind the lads etc.

Then when we don't win on the Saturday, it gives all the pro venkys folk ammunition to point the result as being the fans fault.

Posted
20 minutes ago, RevidgeBlue said:

I can't understand why driving Eustace out wasn't the tipping point for everyone.

They had the perfect manager for our current situation and either couldnt see it, or could and clearly didnt like what they saw!

The Eustace exit made me afraid again. An awful reminder of the toxic people behind the scenes.

I was almost starting to believe again with Eustace. The acid test was always going to be the January window.

Again, it was an unmitigated disaster and reminder that we were in the midst of another sabotage. Somehow, it felt worse than the previous ones.

 

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Posted
19 hours ago, BlackburnEnd75 said:

I think some will get on board as this progresses when the current regime react poorly to it (which they will because it's suhail). 

Just got to hope that this gets the owners attention. Bare minimum we can get rid of suhail.

The reality is that the only think that will get the wider attend8ng fan base to get of their seats is if results and relegation, but even then there will be those that blame the poor form and league position on 'negative fans' 

Posted (edited)

I obviously hope we win on Saturday, but I do worry that some fans will be pleased with the three points and yet again simmer down and forget about or criticise the call to boycott. 

I also think that if we win, the club's propaganda machine will go into overdrive against the protesters and that some people who are on the fence will be won over by it. 

 This game on Saturday is a must win IMO, in really tough circumstances. We have to claw our way to 50 points this season or we're doomed. It's strange feeling that if we get a good result it will have other knock-on negative effects around the club. Not a nice feeling to have. 

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Posted
3 hours ago, roversfan99 said:

@chaddyrovers you are getting peoples backs up because you are either failing to understand the purpose of the boycott or are being purposely obtuse, totally dominating in the process.

Whether you choose to boycott or not is fine, and you keep repeating your stance. It also doesnt make constructive debate to repeatedly just say "well are you boycotting," people will offer their individual stance if its part of a reason as to why to add to the debate, but surely the main point is to figure out what the objective is and what movements will and will not help in getting to that objective.

We all love going to Rovers in normal circumstances. We may or may not buy merchandise, and may or may not buy on the concourses.

The point of the boycott is whether people are willing to SACRIFICE short term doing those things to try and get the owners out. Its fine either way, we all have our reasons, but we can discuss whether that would work etc or what alternatives there are.

Your stance on attending games is clear. You will not consider not attending, that is totally up to you, although you are very repetitive and provocative in getting that point across. To boycott, you would have to fall into a category where you go normally and you want to go but you are going to miss the game(s) to try and send a message.

Your stance on buying on the concourses is NOT a protest movement or a sacrifice. You just dont like the food or the value. Your repeated stance of this doesnt really fit into this debate.

Your stance on merchandise is where it becomes really clear that you either dont understand the point of all this or you are just being typically awkward. To protest, you would avoid giving money to Rovers, it might mean coming up with alternative presents, and making that sacrifice. Its also a way of ensuring for those who cant bring themselves not to attend, they can still do their bit, and if they are season ticket holders, theyd have paid for their ticket anyway so its actually a way of not giving the owners money moreso than match attendance.

Im sure you will respond by asking me my stance, or by telling me I dont buy merchandise, or by repeating your stance. Its not about us. Just please understand the purpose of the protest, make your own decisions which is fine, but its going round in circles with you going off on tangents.

Firstly, RF99, @RevidgeBlue and @lraC , I don't consider myself any better than any other fan. Yes I am diehard passionate Rovers fan who loves and breathe Blackburn Rovers every single day of his life. I'm sure everyone else is similar. 

I asked you some simple questions which yet again you have chosen to ignore and not answer but then expect others to answer your questions. Maybe have a think about that 

My stance is very clear and straight on all the issues. I respected others who make their own choice for the own situation, whatever decision or choice they make should be fully respect, not moan or complained for making their own decision on what they think is right for them.  

I never said my non-buying on the concourse was my protesting but me making a choice not to buy based on the options available. That's my choice. 

I fully aware of what the coalition points are and what they want supporters to do but it is still down to that supporter to decide what they want to do which is personal choice. If Supporters choose to not do as the Coalition has ask for that is down to them and what their choice. It isn't wrong and people shouldn't be made to feel guilty over it either. 

Posted
3 hours ago, Jimmy612 said:

I think it's important to acknowledge the contrast of 'perceived immediate peril' between Rovers' and Sheff Wednesday's situations.  When they boycotted the Boro game, drawing national attention and widespread unity, the following had happened in the previous 6 months alone (source is Wikipedia, so may not be 100% accurate).

Whilst a lot of Rovers fans (Myself included) are extremely angry about the last 15 years, and extremely worried about the short, medium and long term future of the club under the Rao's, our current situation is (on the surface) not really comparable with that of Sheff Wed.  Very little of the above has happened at Rovers, save for a transfer embargo in.... 2015? 


What I'm saying is, whilst wages are paid, whilst there's 11 players in blue and white on the swamp, whilst we maintain Championship status and whilst there is no imminent (or at least publicised) threat to the club, many fans (and importantly the media and powers that be ((FA, EFL)) will turn a blind eye, and as we have witnessed, become quite angry at the prospect of protests, boycotts or otherwise, citing, "where would we be without them". 

In my opinion, protests won't gather a huge amount of traction until there's a tanginble threat to the future of the club. At the moment, the Rao's, and the board are managing to keep the good ship Rovers out of totally treacherous seas.  

Great post btw and I agree until something big happens a lot will see no issue. (Although lots were happy to see us concrete half of brockhall and then no issue when it was used as a loan guarantee and left club ownership)

The frustration is, some of those who want to boycott inc myself, think that it may happen down the road, we have the roadmap, we can see an ownership who no longer wants to fund the club and should draw parallels it may be a slow death. If its fair for the Venkys in crowd to conclude we'd be another Bury/Bolton, its fair to counter argue we could be another Sheff Wed with this ownership.

Better to intervene now, knowing what we know, than wait until it does happen.

Not aimed at you btw, it makes sense to the wider fanbase. You articulated the challenges. None of us know what on Earth the owners are thinking.

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Posted
11 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

Firstly, RF99, @RevidgeBlue and @lraC , I don't consider myself any better than any other fan. Yes I am diehard passionate Rovers fan who loves and breathe Blackburn Rovers every single day of his life. I'm sure everyone else is similar. 

I asked you some simple questions which yet again you have chosen to ignore and not answer but then expect others to answer your questions. Maybe have a think about that 

My stance is very clear and straight on all the issues. I respected others who make their own choice for the own situation, whatever decision or choice they make should be fully respect, not moan or complained for making their own decision on what they think is right for them.  

I never said my non-buying on the concourse was my protesting but me making a choice not to buy based on the options available. That's my choice. 

I fully aware of what the coalition points are and what they want supporters to do but it is still down to that supporter to decide what they want to do which is personal choice. If Supporters choose to not do as the Coalition has ask for that is down to them and what their choice. It isn't wrong and people shouldn't be made to feel guilty over it either. 

So you have probably been the most consistent poster in this thread and again have barely discussed anything remotely relevant. 

If you dont eat at the ground because of choice around value and food options, it has absolutely no relevance to protests. 

Your postings earlier about merchandise displayed a total ignorance towards the protest and the suggestion.

Obviously its down to personal choice but just repeating that isnt really relevant to whether this form of protest is suitable.

Posted (edited)
24 minutes ago, roversfan99 said:

So you have probably been the most consistent poster in this thread and again have barely discussed anything remotely relevant. 

If you dont eat at the ground because of choice around value and food options, it has absolutely no relevance to protests. 

Your postings earlier about merchandise displayed a total ignorance towards the protest and the suggestion.

Obviously its down to personal choice but just repeating that isnt really relevant to whether this form of protest is suitable.

This poster (Chaddy) has possibly posted more than anyone else in this thread. This thread is exclusively about dissatisfaction with the owners and ways which we might be able to protest against them and get them to change their strategy or sell the club. Said poster has no intention of protesting against the owners, no intention of boycotting, has no interest in doing anything which might encourage them to sell. Only under extreme duress from several other posters will they provide any criticism of the owners and it's always brief and minimal.

Given all of the above, I can't understand why they constantly post in this thread, other than to try and undermine the overall sentiment which is one of anger and protest. It's a free country - they absolutely have every right to post where they want on the message board, nothing to do with me. I can't understand it though. All they are interested in doing is telling everyone else about how they'll never protest and coming up with as many arguments as possible against anything which anyone suggests. Obfuscation, obstruction and distraction away from any discussion which criticises the owners and suggests solutions.

I don't actually think they're a club plant, but some of the views and behaviour on here is as close as you could get to one. I have nothing personal against said poster. I'm sure they're a nice person IRL, but I have had to mute them for some time because reading some of their views on the club in the last 12 months since I rejoined the board has made me think I'm losing my mind. No one is perfect and no one is right 100% of the time. But I can't find anything I agree on about Rovers with this poster and I find I just need to scroll past everything.

Edit - apologies if that is too ad-hominem. I'm not saying the board should be an echo chamber with no disagreement or dissent, but the guy seems to be on a one-man mission in this thread to distract and obfuscate the discussion. 

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Posted (edited)
1 hour ago, RevidgeBlue said:

Be interesting to see what the crowd reaction is on Saturday.

Will the call to arms be generally well received and lead to "Venky's out" type chants or will it provoke a sort of superfan "Rovers 'til I die" type backlash? 

Either would arguably be preferably to the morgue like atmosphere prevalent recently.

We're Rovers 'til we die,

We're Rovers 'til we die,

We'll bend over forwards 'n take any Shite,

We're Venky Acolytes!

              

 

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Spot on Rev!
Posted
39 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

Firstly, RF99, @RevidgeBlue and @lraC , I don't consider myself any better than any other fan. Yes I am diehard passionate Rovers fan who loves and breathe Blackburn Rovers every single day of his life. I'm sure everyone else is similar. 

I asked you some simple questions which yet again you have chosen to ignore and not answer but then expect others to answer your questions. Maybe have a think about that 

My stance is very clear and straight on all the issues. I respected others who make their own choice for the own situation, whatever decision or choice they make should be fully respect, not moan or complained for making their own decision on what they think is right for them.  

I never said my non-buying on the concourse was my protesting but me making a choice not to buy based on the options available. That's my choice. 

I fully aware of what the coalition points are and what they want supporters to do but it is still down to that supporter to decide what they want to do which is personal choice. If Supporters choose to not do as the Coalition has ask for that is down to them and what their choice. It isn't wrong and people shouldn't be made to feel guilty over it either. 

What questions have I chosen to ignore and not answer?

Posted
4 minutes ago, StHelensRover said:

 

Given all of the above, I can't understand why they constantly post in this thread, other than to try and undermine the overall sentiment which is one of anger and protest. It's a free country - they absolutely have every right to post where they want on the message board, nothing to do with me. 

Stop engaging then when the answers are all the same. Stick to those who want to make it work 👍🏻

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Posted
1 minute ago, SIMON GARNERS 194 said:

We're Rovers 'til we die,

We're Rovers 'til we die,

We'll bend over forwards 'n take any Shit,

We're Venky Acolytes!

              

 

Rhymes better with an "e" on the end of "Shit"!

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Posted
21 minutes ago, StHelensRover said:

This poster (Chaddy) has possibly posted more than anyone else . But I can't find anything I agree on about Rovers with this poster and I find I just need to scroll past everything

There is an ignore option 

Posted
56 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

 

I asked you some simple questions which yet again you have chosen to ignore and not answer but then expect others to answer your questions. Maybe have a think about that 

.


Kettle and pan

Posted

I'm going to leave the thread now for while and let you guys get on with it. I've posted my views on the issues and why I will be Ewood Park every home game and won't boycott games. That's my choice whilst I fully others who will others choices. 

@StHelensRoverI ain't a club plant just for the record. I'm just a diehard passionate Rovers supporter and STH who want to support the players and team. Anyway like I said I will leave the thread for a while and let you guys get on with it. 

 

 

 

Posted (edited)

But of course a football club is about more than the present team. It represents your town, it’s about its history and heritage that is wrapped up in your own family’s history and heritage. It’s about wanting your own children and grandchildren to follow in your footsteps as you pass the baton on.

I’m a ‘diehard’ for all the above, but others seem to struggle to see that players, teams, and yes, even regimes come and go, we are the constant, we are the club and sometimes action to protect the above has to taken because we are diehards, not in spite of it.

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Posted
49 minutes ago, rock steady said:

You will still see virtually everything they post thanks to the quotes.

you don't have to read them.

Posted
26 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

I'm going to leave the thread now for while and let you guys get on with it. I've posted my views on the issues and why I will be Ewood Park every home game and won't boycott games. That's my choice whilst I fully others who will others choices. 

@StHelensRoverI ain't a club plant just for the record. I'm just a diehard passionate Rovers supporter and STH who want to support the players and team. Anyway like I said I will leave the thread for a while and let you guys get on with it. 

 

 

 

Thank god.

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